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dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 25 2023 19:22 GMT
#1
Hey all,

Hope life is treating you well

I wanted to announce that https://www.blacksheepwall.tv/ is live, go check it out and enjoy some replays!



Please check out the thanks section because this is definitely not just me. Much appreciated.

TBH though, I really think we need an SC3

AP
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9499 Posts
November 25 2023 19:47 GMT
#2
Looking good, congrats!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
November 25 2023 21:35 GMT
#3
this is pretty cool. It's the same thing that you showcased a year or two (or more?) ago where the maps were shown in this angle, right? impressive
LML
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10007 Posts
November 25 2023 21:57 GMT
#4
looks cool and dayum vr reps, i can finally be a real space commander
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 26 2023 06:04 GMT
#5
On November 26 2023 04:47 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Looking good, congrats!


Thank you

On November 26 2023 06:35 LML wrote:
this is pretty cool. It's the same thing that you showcased a year or two (or more?) ago where the maps were shown in this angle, right? impressive


Yes it is, with both fewer and additional bugs!

On November 26 2023 06:57 TT1 wrote:
looks cool and dayum vr reps, i can finally be a real space commander


Yeah I think there is an RTS game concept somewhere there
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
November 29 2023 07:40 GMT
#6
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 30 2023 00:05 GMT
#7
This is a fuller demo of the auto observer.



On November 29 2023 16:40 Glioburd wrote:
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz


Merci
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
November 30 2023 16:09 GMT
#8
On November 30 2023 09:05 dark.matter wrote:
This is a fuller demo of the auto observer.

https://youtu.be/jlxVQlkvmQI

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2023 16:40 Glioburd wrote:
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz


Merci


This auto observer is awesome! The only thing I would like adjusted is when there is a battle going on it jumps to show a pylon being made. I don't think there is usually continuous battles in broodwar so if the observer would just watch the fight that would be great.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 30 2023 17:16 GMT
#9
On December 01 2023 01:09 Mutaller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2023 09:05 dark.matter wrote:
This is a fuller demo of the auto observer.

https://youtu.be/jlxVQlkvmQI

On November 29 2023 16:40 Glioburd wrote:
Looks awesome, really impressive work, can't wait to try it!
Congratz


Merci


This auto observer is awesome! The only thing I would like adjusted is when there is a battle going on it jumps to show a pylon being made. I don't think there is usually continuous battles in broodwar so if the observer would just watch the fight that would be great.


I think I can do that.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-20 10:58:05
December 20 2023 10:55 GMT
#10
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2577 Posts
December 20 2023 11:18 GMT
#11
This is very cool, what a great idea!
The frumious Bandersnatch
Lovethelord
Profile Blog Joined January 2023
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-22 04:30:18
December 22 2023 04:25 GMT
#12
this is the greatest thing i've seen since Shield Battery. Thank you. You are a genius.

Quick question, how can I make the auto observer to stop changing the speed of the game? I want to watch on one speed.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
December 23 2023 11:15 GMT
#13
Super cool, thanks for publishing it online!!! Please post in this thread if you have a stream where classic matches are replayed with blacksheepwall ( :D )
The heart's eternal vow
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 08:31:13
December 24 2023 08:29 GMT
#14
On December 22 2023 13:25 Lovethelord wrote:
this is the greatest thing i've seen since Shield Battery. Thank you. You are a genius.

Quick question, how can I make the auto observer to stop changing the speed of the game? I want to watch on one speed.


Thanks brother I really appreciate that. I just wanted my idea to exist.

You can open the control panel ( cog icon on home screen or press ESC in a game for menu ) and go to plugins -> Auto Observer, and change the max replay speed to 1.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
December 24 2023 08:30 GMT
#15
On December 23 2023 20:15 PVJ wrote:
Super cool, thanks for publishing it online!!! Please post in this thread if you have a stream where classic matches are replayed with blacksheepwall ( :D )


I played with that idea but I won't be doing it myself. Some replays break so there has to be a little bit of management.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
December 24 2023 09:14 GMT
#16
On December 20 2023 19:55 BlueStar wrote:
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.


Awesome! Did it work out? Sorry in advance if it didn't
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 11:24:38
December 24 2023 11:21 GMT
#17
On December 24 2023 18:14 dark.matter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2023 19:55 BlueStar wrote:
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.


Awesome! Did it work out? Sorry in advance if it didn't

Hi man, ye it did! ;D
Tbh, I'm with mixed feelings but it's viable for the job and is a breath of fresh air, which I like!

1st some general feedback from the viewers:
- the camera is too shaky. most of the ppl said this after watching for ~5 mins in. A few ppl were talking about sea sickness :D I think it's alright, but slight adjustments could do the job probably.

- the thing that breaks the deal for real SC coverage is that you can't get a proper feeling/understanding of the distances between units in many cases. That was vital for most of the hardcore viewers to say they didn't like it. Idk if there is any workaround for it, tho :|

- I was worried that blacksheepwall would switch the scenes too much and too often, but this worked out well I think. Whenever needed, I helped the auto obs by pointing a place on the mini-map. There was that one issue though - when something happens around the borders of the map, the screen would just move away from the place and it was hard to get a view of the right place.

I got the recordings of the two streams that we did, and you can check for yourself how it looks. The cast is in Bulgarian. The most frustrating moment for me as an obs/caster was at 01:48:22, here:


and here is the another recording:


Merry Christmas !

P.S. Also the thing with the auto change of the pace was too intrusive and I had to keep an eye on the info at the bot left corner, which was an annoying downside. The speeds didn't make any sense :D I was kinda flabbergasted looking at the numbers of the weird 'speeds'.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25107 Posts
December 24 2023 12:08 GMT
#18
Wow, that is cool.

How did you do all that 2.5 rotation stuff? :O
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-24 16:00:54
December 24 2023 16:00 GMT
#19
On December 24 2023 20:21 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2023 18:14 dark.matter wrote:
On December 20 2023 19:55 BlueStar wrote:
Dude, I just wanted to stop by and say - this is AMAZING!
Not sure how viable it will be but looks fun and is something totally out of the box.

I'll give it a test drive tonight and stream some replays via the blacksheepwall, from the group stage of the Bulgarian SC league that we organize annually around xmas every year.


Awesome! Did it work out? Sorry in advance if it didn't

Hi man, ye it did! ;D
Tbh, I'm with mixed feelings but it's viable for the job and is a breath of fresh air, which I like!

1st some general feedback from the viewers:
- the camera is too shaky. most of the ppl said this after watching for ~5 mins in. A few ppl were talking about sea sickness :D I think it's alright, but slight adjustments could do the job probably.

- the thing that breaks the deal for real SC coverage is that you can't get a proper feeling/understanding of the distances between units in many cases. That was vital for most of the hardcore viewers to say they didn't like it. Idk if there is any workaround for it, tho :|

- I was worried that blacksheepwall would switch the scenes too much and too often, but this worked out well I think. Whenever needed, I helped the auto obs by pointing a place on the mini-map. There was that one issue though - when something happens around the borders of the map, the screen would just move away from the place and it was hard to get a view of the right place.

I got the recordings of the two streams that we did, and you can check for yourself how it looks. The cast is in Bulgarian. The most frustrating moment for me as an obs/caster was at 01:48:22, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPI2KkOVRQc

and here is the another recording: https://youtu.be/bXF1l8SPNi8

Merry Christmas !

P.S. Also the thing with the auto change of the pace was too intrusive and I had to keep an eye on the info at the bot left corner, which was an annoying downside. The speeds didn't make any sense :D I was kinda flabbergasted looking at the numbers of the weird 'speeds'.


Alright cool. I think I can fix that stuff. I have a feeling people simply prefer the feel of the classic/official UI so I get what you mean. In my experience its great for youtube shorts, recaps / promos etc.

FYI. You can lock it to 1x speed. The speed displayed should is the game speed multiplier, so 1.5x means 1.5 times the speed. If you prefer not to use auto observer press 1, 2 and 3 are other modes, and 4 is auto observer.

Merry Christmas to you too! En Taro Adun

On December 24 2023 21:08 WombaT wrote:
Wow, that is cool.

How did you do all that 2.5 rotation stuff? :O


It's made using three.js/webgl https://github.com/alexpineda/titan-reactor
Lovethelord
Profile Blog Joined January 2023
46 Posts
December 25 2023 04:14 GMT
#20
been using this a lot to watch my games. so fun. did you fix the shaking? It's much more smooth now and the battles take priority.

Man, I hope this lasts forever.
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