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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-14 03:37:14
September 14 2023 03:36 GMT
#1
I would like to see 6 semi island/island map and 1 ground map. I think this way will save Protoss at highest level.

Although I play Terran and TvT is my best matchup, I also like watch TvT most. I said more times, if StarCraft remove Protoss and Zerg, this game is the best eSports ever made all time.

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51509 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-14 04:05:23
September 14 2023 04:05 GMT
#2
yeah, a map pool with sparkle, inner coven, 815, hall of valhalla, forbidden zone, dream of balhae and fighting spirit would be fucking amazing! i wonder why tournaments haven't done it in the past!
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Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
September 14 2023 05:36 GMT
#3
Fantasy and Flash.
Not to inflame the Tesagi fellows, but I believe every game suffers when its best player isn't participating.
I'm also OK with more crazy maps and non-T favored maps.
Would be nice if Larva made an appearance, although that won't help the Protoss cause at all
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
516 Posts
September 14 2023 06:17 GMT
#4
Jangbi. And complete island maps.
And I don't think Protoss is saved by island maps. If anything it's the Zerg. The overlord becomes the MVP of the match.
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femtehjulet
Profile Joined October 2018
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-14 08:58:26
September 14 2023 08:58 GMT
#5
On September 14 2023 15:17 namkraft wrote:
Jangbi. And complete island maps.
And I don't think Protoss is saved by island maps. If anything it's the Zerg. The overlord becomes the MVP of the match.


Zerg is historicly weak on island maps. Thats why they made sparkle like they did.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2303 Posts
September 14 2023 12:09 GMT
#6
BAN ZERGS
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1598 Posts
September 14 2023 13:15 GMT
#7
Jangbi returning to save protoss
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia935 Posts
September 14 2023 13:36 GMT
#8
Don't have to be island maps.
Just 10 mineral patches in main, no backdoors to main/natural, vulnerable & distant 3rd will already go a long way.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
September 14 2023 14:27 GMT
#9
Good suggestion in the OP. Protoss needs something. They're getting wrecked. It may not super help Protoss but I'd love to see Blue Storm brought back into map pools. Super fun map.

P.S. I hate TvT. It's the only matchup I won't watch. Super boring 90% of the time imo. Hoping for anything but a TvT finals again.
Postaljester_
Profile Joined April 2023
33 Posts
September 14 2023 14:52 GMT
#10
The commonly held belief is that brood war is best balanced through maps. If so I want to see maps that help toss stop hydra busts.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
September 14 2023 15:01 GMT
#11
I'd like to see more maps with a ramp to the natural. Main+Natural are on the high ground.
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Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States657 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-14 15:10:30
September 14 2023 15:04 GMT
#12
I want to see more TvT, since it's the least luck-reliant and most skill-based matchup in the game and allows strategy to flourish like it should (since this is a real-time strategy game, after all.) Just make every map favour Terran so we can filter out the other races.

Real answer: better, less gimmicky/whacky maps that seem to be autolosses in certain matchups, and better players (this obviously won't happen, but I sure do miss the good old days when pros were at their peaks.)
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada74 Posts
September 14 2023 15:43 GMT
#13
Artosis fav 12 Nexus - 2 player map cross base allow toss to do 12 Nexus.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3425 Posts
September 14 2023 20:26 GMT
#14
I d like to see Dewalt and Mihu make it, also TY.

But more importantly i d like Flash to play as Protoss and dominate with it ;p
Horang2 fan
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-14 20:50:30
September 14 2023 20:43 GMT
#15
Soundproof booths
Bo3 for winners/losers/finals in the Ro24
maybe removal of Bo7s (too long, less interesting cheese/strategic builds, less room for upsets).

edit - some kind of map pool that dissuades hydra busts because the pvz meta is SO stale... Not sure exactly what this would be though. I'm guessing maybe something like God's Garden? Free backdoor expo and easy regular nat? No idea though.
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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
September 14 2023 20:48 GMT
#16
No more all bo1 in the ro24
Current ro16 format used in ro24
All bo3 in ro16
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Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines596 Posts
September 14 2023 22:06 GMT
#17
fantasy, flash (Z or R), TY, larva
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States721 Posts
September 14 2023 22:08 GMT
#18
I heard Scan say once that when bases have more minerals in the main or natural, that tends to favor protoss in all matchups. I wonder if just adding a couple of mineral patches to the main base of some maps would do it.

Generally, I'd be stoked to see some maps with funky mineral and gas layouts. Like a 2nd geyser in the main that you need 6 workers to mine from effectively that is covered by air by hold-position hostile neutral valks.

In fact, hostile neutral units could be added in creative ways to enable otherwise imbalanced map layouts.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
September 16 2023 09:46 GMT
#19
A competent Protoss player.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2719 Posts
September 16 2023 10:05 GMT
#20
Flash!
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