• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:50
CEST 16:50
KST 23:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1649 users

[ASL16] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Even Scales

Forum Index > BW General
5 CommentsPost a Reply

[ASL16] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Even Scales

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byv1
September 11th, 2023 01:41 GMT
ASL11 Main Image
Whats left in the Ro16 is the most hard to predict groups because they're all balanced in terms of current skill, precived skill, past and current performance levels as well as these competitiors' ability to stand out in unexpected circumstances.

BLinD-RawR struggles to predict how the Ro16 will finish and who'll make it through to the brackets.

Group A Preview

Struggles Ahead


(Z)hero - (T)Ample - (Z)Soulkey - (P)Bisu


Group C consists of Soulkey, Ample and Bisu who all advanced to the Ro16 taking one a loss, hero may be the most consistent player in ASL history but even he struggles to make those wins when it counts.

hero is easily the most consistent player in the history of the ASL, I don’t believe anyone has had as many Ro8 appearances as hero and that just shows how much we can’t count him out in the group stages at all. hero also stands at a 49% win rate on major proleague while also having the highest participation with 2nd most number of games played in October, having Ample to open against is definitely a good advantage, he probably wants to face Bisu over Soulkey in the winner’s game for best odds.

Ample made Ro16 by beating Queen twice in his group, that certainly give him a lot of confidence against the likes of hero and Soulkey, though it can be said that Queen has been slumping both online and offline as of late and Soulkey and hero are performing way better than him at the moment, but him beating hero in the opener is the key for him to advancing, falling into the loser’s game means playing 2 Bo3s and against hero, Soulkey or Bisu he’s going to struggle on that front.

Soulkey since his encounter with calm in the Ro24 is more afraid of ZvZ than the other two matchups, hopefully beating Rain in the Ro24 gives him confidence in his opener against Bisu. I would say of Ample, Bisu and Soulkey, Soulkey would be the most likely to win a Bo3 against the other two should he possibly fall to hero in the winners game and therefore qualify 2nd.

Bisu usually starts to show how much he just coasts by on pure talent by Ro16 because he now has to deal with active competitors who are putting in the hours of practice and those major proleague hours, which Bisu has not been putting in since his return from Saudi, his Ro24 performance was nothing to write home about after dropping a set to Stork, if Bisu doesn't step up up, he's not making it against Soulkey in the opener let alone in the Bo3s.

(Z)hero and (Z)Soulkey Advance To The Ro8!

Group B Preview

Blunt Impact


(P)BeSt - (T)Sharp - (Z)Action - (T)Royal


Fans instilled a lot of their hopes into BeSt last season after being the only protoss to make the Ro8 and then making it to the Ro4 where he did ultimately fall to Mind, after which he was dejected and if you asked me a month ago of BeSt's chances especially looking at his then online performance.

I'd say he wouldn't make it that far this season, but right now BeSt has bounced back so hard that he is currently the best performing protoss let on the ASL who's been rebuilding his PvT once again and is definitely going to be a tough fight for sharp and Royal, while also knowing that he has beaten Action in a Bo5 means that he can do it again in a Bo3.

Sharp definitely shut me up after his performance in the Ro24 where even I called him completely washed, seems like he still has that dog in him to push forward against bad odds because the odds are still very much against him. BeSt for an opener may be tough but if BeSt still has his fumbling offline PvT form Sharp has a chance and he'd want to face RoyaL in the winners game because I don't see him beating Action or BeSt again in a Bo3 at least.

Action already shown that he's pretty unflappable with his Ro24 performance playing persistent against Effort in that hive tech game and against Light in the winners game, definitely not willing to be messed around by anyone. Action's biggest threat is BeSt, their epic Ro8 series from last season probably still wears heavy on Action's mind and is sure to be a rematch that fans would want to see and for that he'd have to get past RoyaL first. Seeing how he handled light already, if he has to face RoyaL again or Sharp, he should feel confident to advance.

RoyaL this season has only shown his TvP, having already lost to shuttle once only to eliminate both Snow and Shuttle in the Ro24, making him the enemy of protoss fans for the the rest of the season. As such he should want to face BeSt after trying to overcome Action as advancing first is the best chance for RoyaL, it is unlikely for him to sustain in a Bo3 against Action or Sharp.

(P)BeSt and (Z)Action Advance To The Ro8!



Writers: BLinD-RawR
Graphics: v1
Editors: BLinD-RawR

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom251 Posts
September 11 2023 11:45 GMT
#2
Dang these groups are packed with talent. It's very rare for me to cheer for zergs, but I just might.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
September 11 2023 14:36 GMT
#3
sOrry definately should advance, and i hope Sharp doesnt.
andertalets77
Profile Joined February 2019
143 Posts
September 20 2023 08:32 GMT
#4
Sharp play vs MINI, not vs Best!!!!
andertalets77
Profile Joined February 2019
143 Posts
September 20 2023 08:33 GMT
#5
Whats happpend with sponbang ?
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1537 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-24 12:13:16
September 24 2023 12:12 GMT
#6
On September 20 2023 17:32 andertalets77 wrote:
Sharp play vs MINI, not vs Best!!!!


kek
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group B
WardiTV1172
TKL 276
Rex128
3DClanTV 73
Liquipedia
Escore
10:00
Week 3
escodisco1636
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 276
Rex 128
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1654
Shuttle 651
EffOrt 442
BeSt 422
Soma 383
actioN 342
Mini 293
Snow 270
Hyuk 209
ToSsGirL 191
[ Show more ]
hero 184
NaDa 166
Hyun 133
Rush 113
Soulkey 103
Dewaltoss 71
Aegong 69
scan(afreeca) 58
[sc1f]eonzerg 51
JYJ 48
Backho 36
Pusan 31
Sexy 29
Hm[arnc] 26
Terrorterran 21
Bale 19
JulyZerg 17
Rock 15
eros_byul 0
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc3969
qojqva1926
ODPixel231
League of Legends
Reynor117
Counter-Strike
fl0m1905
kRYSTAL_26
olofmeister11
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King91
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr18
Other Games
singsing2151
B2W.Neo1678
hiko734
FrodaN478
Mlord367
DeMusliM332
Lowko314
crisheroes147
ArmadaUGS77
QueenE63
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV390
Counter-Strike
PGL194
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 55
• EnkiAlexander 30
• LUISG 10
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV356
League of Legends
• Nemesis2688
• Jankos1703
• TFBlade1394
Other Games
• Shiphtur102
Upcoming Events
OSC
10m
Big Brain Bouts
1h 10m
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
Korean StarCraft League
12h 10m
CranKy Ducklings
19h 10m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
20h 10m
IPSL
1d 1h
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 4h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 7h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 20h
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.