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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-12 21:56:27
December 12 2021 21:53 GMT
#1
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Hi everyone,

As some of you may already know from reading my blog over the years, I've been slowly catching up on old BW tournaments, OSLs/MSLs, that I missed during BW's glory days, and documenting my thoughts about these tournaments there: example.

I decided to start watching GomTV MSL S4 recently, and figured it might be fun to cast these older games with an inquisitive mind, so I decided to call this series, "Let's Watch Starcraft!". If you are a new player/viewer who would love to watch older games with an English caster and see what the older meta was like, or you are an old-timer who would love to see these old games with a fresh pair of eyes and for some nostalgia too, feel free to check out my casts on my youtube channel.

I am still working on standardizing everything to my liking. Having said that, the first four groups of the Ro32 have been casted and uploaded. I have also made sure to avoid spoilers for anyone who wants to take the plunge and watch this tournament from start to finish. The current plan is to cast 1-2 groups a week and adjust this based on time.

Here are a couple of great games, one from each group, that some folks may like:
Group A: Sea vs ZerO on Blue Storm: &#91;image loading&#93;
Group B: Bisu vs Jaedong on Blue Storm: &#91;image loading&#93;
Group C: Losers' Match on Katrina: &#91;image loading&#93;
Group D: Jangbi vs XellOs on Zodiac: &#91;image loading&#93;

If there is enough interest, I can update this thread once a round is fully casted, so folks are aware of it.

Thank you guys for your support!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-15 09:34:09
December 15 2021 05:10 GMT
#2
Great initiative and good work BigFan! I think the GOMTV MSL S4 was what was on when I first started watching BW after learning about the pro-scene, it was definitely 2007 anyway.

I'll aim to listen to some of these soon (and can give some feedback if you like). Most of my watching these days is in the middle of the night without audio though!
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
December 15 2021 07:46 GMT
#3
This is such a good idea. Compared to some of the grizzled veterans of the BW community, I'm still pretty new so it's cool seeing a fresh perspective on games from the glory days. Oh and the casting is great, keep it up
Mine gas, build tanks.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
December 15 2021 08:04 GMT
#4
I think 2002-2003 Stout & Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour, 2004-2005 IOPS OSL are great leagues. Anyway, I just subscribed your channel, thank you and look forward to see more.

(Wiki)2002-2003 Stout %26 Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour

(Wiki)2004-2005 IOPS OSL
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 16 2021 01:15 GMT
#5
On December 15 2021 14:10 moktira wrote:
Great initiative and good work BigFan! I think the GOMTV MSL S4 was what was on when I first started watching BW after learning about the pro-scene, it was definitely 2007 anyway.

I'll aim to listen to some of these soon (and can give some feedback if you like). Most of my watching these days is in the middle of the night without audio though!

Thanks for the support! Watch them as you wish The idea is that this is another method of vod preservation if the channel hosting the original vods goes down.

On December 15 2021 16:46 Akio wrote:
This is such a good idea. Compared to some of the grizzled veterans of the BW community, I'm still pretty new so it's cool seeing a fresh perspective on games from the glory days. Oh and the casting is great, keep it up

Thank you. I'm not sure if I'd called myself a grizzled veteran haha, but I do know a thing or two. Glad you like the casting.

On December 15 2021 17:04 bovienchien wrote:
I think 2002-2003 Stout & Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour, 2004-2005 IOPS OSL are great leagues. Anyway, I just subscribed your channel, thank you and look forward to see more.

(Wiki)2002-2003 Stout %26 Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/2004-2005_IOPS_OSL

Thank you and yes, I plan to eventually cast these too. I mostly choose 2007 as the starting point because the gameplay was a bit closer to what we see nowadays compared to the earlier days where things were more of a free for all (to some degree).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
VandenPlause
Profile Joined August 2010
United States37 Posts
December 16 2021 06:08 GMT
#6
Yes, seeing those old CRT monitors was a nostalgia blast from the past, haha!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 16 2021 07:16 GMT
#7
I love this kind of posts, still shows that we never lost our passion and hope for BW. Defly gonna sub.
sunbeams are never made like me...
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 17 2021 03:20 GMT
#8
On December 16 2021 15:08 VandenPlause wrote:
Yes, seeing those old CRT monitors was a nostalgia blast from the past, haha!

yes, indeed. CRT monitors were great.

On December 16 2021 16:16 outscar wrote:
I love this kind of posts, still shows that we never lost our passion and hope for BW. Defly gonna sub.

thanks, and for sure!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 20 2021 01:22 GMT
#9
Small update for those who are following this series:
- Groups A to F have been casted and uploaded.
- Groups G and H will hopefully be up in the next week or so.

Recommendations:
Group A - If you are a fan of TvZ, then this is a group that should be watched in its entirety. The games were all a joy to watch, and the level of play was pretty high overall.
Group B - First match of Bisu vs Jaedong was great, and the losers' match was also interesting.
Group C - First match of Savior vs Ruby, and the finals' match are both great (losers' is not bad either so another option).
Group D - First match of Jangbi vs Xellos and second match of FBH vs Hwasin were pretty enjoyable. This group had some TvTs, but imo, if you don't mind, this was a fun group overall.
Group E - Second match of ForGG vs Luxury, and the losers' match were good. Other matches weren't bad either, but it depends on how much you love TvTs.
Group F - This group had Nal_ra, GoRush and Light so lots of back and forth games between the different races. Would highly recommend the whole group if you are able since these games were pretty high level and really interesting. At minimum, you should watch first match of Nal_ra vs Shine, second match of Light vs GoRush, and finals' match imo.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
December 20 2021 08:23 GMT
#10
wow. very nice!
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 23 2021 01:38 GMT
#11
On December 20 2021 17:23 ffswowsucks wrote:
wow. very nice!

Glad that you seem to be a bigfan
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-23 06:57:15
December 23 2021 06:55 GMT
#12
Hello, i want start Youtube channel too with SC:BW games and my comments)
Where can i get replays from current and last events, like ASL, ASTL etc. ?
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4252 Posts
December 23 2021 13:03 GMT
#13
quite an interesting idea!

thanks
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 25 2021 15:19 GMT
#14
On December 23 2021 15:55 Sonic_md wrote:
Hello, i want start Youtube channel too with SC:BW games and my comments)
Where can i get replays from current and last events, like ASL, ASTL etc. ?

I don't believe you can get the replays from anywhere. Only afreeca would have them.

On December 23 2021 22:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
quite an interesting idea!

thanks

thanks!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 26 2021 21:24 GMT
#15
Last 2 groups of the Ro32 are casted and can be found here.

Recommendations:
Group G - this group has flash and iloveoov so you know you are in for some good games!
Group H - Match 2 - SangHo vs Canata on Katrina, losers' match and finals' match too.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 07 2022 04:05 GMT
#16
Half of the Ro16 has been casted and uploaded. Links can be found below:
Group A & B - https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=128#2558
Group C & D - https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=129#2566

Recommendations:
Group A - Light vs Sea, TvT - pretty entertaining series overall.
Group B - Kwanro vs KaL, PvZ - both players were rising stars so to speak, not a bad series.
Group C - Jangbi vs Orion, PvZ - really interesting series, would recommend.
Group D - July vs UpMagic, TvZ - I love my TvZs so I'll (almost always) recommend them, including here.

Hopefully you guys enjoy the games. Thanks for the support!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 15 2022 21:46 GMT
#17
The remainder of the Ro16 has been casted. The last four groups were as follows:
Group E - (Z) Jaedong vs (Z) Luxury
Group F - (T) Flash vs (T) Hwasin
Group G - (P) Anytime vs (T) NaDa
Group H - (T) Mind vs (T) Shine

Links:
Group E & F - https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=129#2568
Group G & H - https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=129#2570
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
January 16 2022 18:23 GMT
#18
Oh this is dope, thanks so much for doing it! Trying to show a bunch of folks old games but with korean commentary is always a bit of a wall to get over for them, I'll be linking people your stuff from now on!
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 18 2022 22:32 GMT
#19
Sounds great! Hopefully it's to their liking.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 22 2022 23:19 GMT
#20
Two groups of the Ro8 have been casted:
Group A - (T) Light vs (P) Kal
Group B - (P) JangBi vs (T) UpMaGiC

Link: https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=129#2572
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
January 24 2022 05:14 GMT
#21
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 25 2022 04:10 GMT
#22
Great work! Keep it up!
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 27 2022 01:37 GMT
#23
On January 24 2022 14:14 JieXian wrote:
QUALITY ANIMATION YO i love it seriously

Surprisingly or not, you are the first to comment on the banner. You could say that it's a collaborative effort :D

On January 25 2022 13:10 RKC wrote:
Great work! Keep it up!

thanks!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 06 2022 22:56 GMT
#24
The final two groups of the Ro8 have been casted:
Group C - (T)Flash vs (Z)Jaedong: &#91;image loading&#93;
Group D - (T)NaDa vs (T)Mind: &#91;image loading&#93;

FvJ series was quite the watch, so would recommend.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-13 16:23:18
March 13 2022 15:50 GMT
#25
Semifinals and finals have been casted:

Group A - (P)JangBi vs (P)Kal: &#91;image loading&#93;
Group B - (Z)Jaedong vs (T)Mind: &#91;image loading&#93;

+ Show Spoiler [Finals] +
(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Kal: &#91;image loading&#93;


Playlist - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyTLZ_zFX3i3H7XYHIztX8NV-f1N-k_Ky

Hope you guys enjoyed the casts. I'll be starting the new tournament, 2008 Bacchus OSL, sometime after ASL concludes so stay tuned for more BW!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
March 27 2022 13:40 GMT
#26
Just finished watching all of this. Was very enjoyable, thanks for bringing back the memories. I'll definitely tune-in for future casts.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 28 2022 02:06 GMT
#27
Thank you for watching. Glad you liked it!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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