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dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 02:40:35
November 19 2021 17:33 GMT
#1
I've hosted a discord trivia bot. Right now there are roughly only 60 questions so submissions are needed for all categories:
- StarLeagues & Tournaments
- Map Trivia
- Game Mechanics
- StarCraft Lore
- Build Orders & Strategy

Bot form + link are here

command is !gg play with 10 questions per game.

Shout out to oxtQ for sparking the idea. cheers

how it looks in discord:
+ Show Spoiler +

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Green = easy = 3pts
Yellow = medium = 5pts
Red = hard = 10 pts


trivia submission credits
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Neblime
Sir Cosmic The Bright
Freakling
FakeFin
essbee
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
November 19 2021 22:09 GMT
#2
Wow cool! I will try it.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 19 2021 22:21 GMT
#3
On November 20 2021 07:09 Essbee wrote:
Wow cool! I will try it.


Thanks. And if you could add any trivia please do.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
November 19 2021 23:52 GMT
#4
On November 20 2021 07:21 dark.matter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2021 07:09 Essbee wrote:
Wow cool! I will try it.


Thanks. And if you could add any trivia please do.


Great, I will. I have a few ideas.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 00:44:50
November 20 2021 00:41 GMT
#5
Oh man, trivia channels were HOT back in the day, but they had different modes and such - general trivia, SC trivia, sports, etc. Hope this expands

For easy BW questions, add mineral and gas cost questions for units, particularly underused ones. What is the gas cost of five Queens? What is the mineral cost of a Scout? How many minerals is an Infested Terran? Etc.

Further stuff could be upgraded costs - how much for the Dark Archon energy upgrade? Etc. That is several dozen new questions right there.

How about asking for obscure BW knowledge, in the spirit of trivia? "A progamer named himself after this obscure map with tiny ramps." (815) "Light lost to Tempest who used this piece of the Protoss arsenal to hold off a BBS" (shield battery vs. Cannon vs. DT vs. Storm) etc.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 01:19:33
November 20 2021 01:05 GMT
#6
This is awesome man. Good job DB!

Possible to create true and false questions? What about providing manual answers to the bot if you don't want the correct answer to be visible (as it is in multiple or true/false format)? Would the bot be able to recognize the correct answer if it's typed out? That would make the game a bit more tricky and fun in my opinion, and be similar to the show jeopardy where the first person to (buzz in and) guess the right answer wins. Could also consider in the future making it so points are deducted for wrong answers (whether they are in multiple choice, true/false or manual answer format). Unless that's already done. That would make it risky to answer, especially if more than one person is playing trivia in a discord.

I think it would also be super interesting and informative for some questions to be more intricate by describing an in-game scenario (e.g., opponent has done a certain build) and asking for the correct response (e.g., what is the correct counter move). That sort of thing. I bet a lot of sample questions and answers could be found in the CPL discord where players routinely discuss and ask about various builds and strategies and what the (in)correct or (un)desirable counter responses to them are.
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
November 20 2021 01:36 GMT
#7
On November 20 2021 10:05 ox.tQ wrote:
This is awesome man. Good job DB!

Possible to create true and false questions? What about providing manual answers to the bot if you don't want the correct answer to be visible (as it is in multiple or true/false format)? Would the bot be able to recognize the correct answer if it's typed out? That would make the game a bit more tricky and fun in my opinion, and be similar to the show jeopardy where the first person to (buzz in and) guess the right answer wins. Could also consider in the future making it so points are deducted for wrong answers (whether they are in multiple choice, true/false or manual answer format). Unless that's already done. That would make it risky to answer, especially if more than one person is playing trivia in a discord.

I think it would also be super interesting and informative for some questions to be more intricate by describing an in-game scenario (e.g., opponent has done a certain build) and asking for the correct response (e.g., what is the correct counter move). That sort of thing. I bet a lot of sample questions and answers could be found in the CPL discord where players routinely discuss and ask about various builds and strategies and what the (in)correct or (un)desirable counter responses to them are.

The only qualm I have about this last bit is that it has been consistently proven that counters are not as hard as we think they are. Jedong going 12h holding a 6 pool or 9 pool IIRC? You run the risk of dispensing false information. To noobs who don't know any better.

TLDR Against "X Counters Y" questions.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 02:14:07
November 20 2021 02:13 GMT
#8
On November 20 2021 10:36 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2021 10:05 ox.tQ wrote:
This is awesome man. Good job DB!

Possible to create true and false questions? What about providing manual answers to the bot if you don't want the correct answer to be visible (as it is in multiple or true/false format)? Would the bot be able to recognize the correct answer if it's typed out? That would make the game a bit more tricky and fun in my opinion, and be similar to the show jeopardy where the first person to (buzz in and) guess the right answer wins. Could also consider in the future making it so points are deducted for wrong answers (whether they are in multiple choice, true/false or manual answer format). Unless that's already done. That would make it risky to answer, especially if more than one person is playing trivia in a discord.

I think it would also be super interesting and informative for some questions to be more intricate by describing an in-game scenario (e.g., opponent has done a certain build) and asking for the correct response (e.g., what is the correct counter move). That sort of thing. I bet a lot of sample questions and answers could be found in the CPL discord where players routinely discuss and ask about various builds and strategies and what the (in)correct or (un)desirable counter responses to them are.

The only qualm I have about this last bit is that it has been consistently proven that counters are not as hard as we think they are. Jedong going 12h holding a 6 pool or 9 pool IIRC? You run the risk of dispensing false information. To noobs who don't know any better.

TLDR Against "X Counters Y" questions.


But I'm sure there are some or plenty of scenarios one could come up which have a single correct answer. People in CPL discord and in players' streams ask questions all the time about what the proper response should be to many situations and the answers provided by different coaches and players are the same in some cases.

I think the goal would be to either avoid scenarios that are much more nuanced and involve different answers, OR configure the bot so that it accepts more than one answer. Of course I'm not sure if that's even possible to do since the bot is probably better at registering one word answers and the answers to such scenarios would probably require more than one word.
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 02:13:54
November 20 2021 02:13 GMT
#9
Have been enjoying it, really fun. I think there should be a setting to increase the time limit. From 15 secs to maybe up to a minute?

I've submitted 7 questions too.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 20 2021 02:38 GMT
#10
On November 20 2021 11:13 ox.tQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2021 10:36 Jealous wrote:
On November 20 2021 10:05 ox.tQ wrote:
This is awesome man. Good job DB!

Possible to create true and false questions? What about providing manual answers to the bot if you don't want the correct answer to be visible (as it is in multiple or true/false format)? Would the bot be able to recognize the correct answer if it's typed out? That would make the game a bit more tricky and fun in my opinion, and be similar to the show jeopardy where the first person to (buzz in and) guess the right answer wins. Could also consider in the future making it so points are deducted for wrong answers (whether they are in multiple choice, true/false or manual answer format). Unless that's already done. That would make it risky to answer, especially if more than one person is playing trivia in a discord.

I think it would also be super interesting and informative for some questions to be more intricate by describing an in-game scenario (e.g., opponent has done a certain build) and asking for the correct response (e.g., what is the correct counter move). That sort of thing. I bet a lot of sample questions and answers could be found in the CPL discord where players routinely discuss and ask about various builds and strategies and what the (in)correct or (un)desirable counter responses to them are.

The only qualm I have about this last bit is that it has been consistently proven that counters are not as hard as we think they are. Jedong going 12h holding a 6 pool or 9 pool IIRC? You run the risk of dispensing false information. To noobs who don't know any better.

TLDR Against "X Counters Y" questions.


But I'm sure there are some or plenty of scenarios one could come up which have a single correct answer. People in CPL discord and in players' streams ask questions all the time about what the proper response should be to many situations and the answers provided by different coaches and players are the same in some cases.

I think the goal would be to either avoid scenarios that are much more nuanced and involve different answers, OR configure the bot so that it accepts more than one answer. Of course I'm not sure if that's even possible to do since the bot is probably better at registering one word answers and the answers to such scenarios would probably require more than one word.


There's an answer explanation field that could provide caveats.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 20 2021 02:46 GMT
#11
Would the bot be able to recognize the correct answer if it's typed out? That would make the game a bit more tricky and fun in my opinion, and be similar to the show jeopardy where the first person to (buzz in and) guess the right answer wins.


There are different modes I haven't experimented muchwith, type !gg help to see hangman and advanced modes, one of which you type out I believe, worth a shot.

Possible to create true and false questions?

True false is possible you just have to put N/A as 3rd and 4th answers, the bot enforces 4 answers as it stands right now.

Could also consider in the future making it so points are deducted for wrong answers (whether they are in multiple choice, true/false or manual answer format). Unless that's already done. That would make it risky to answer, especially if more than one person is playing trivia in a discord.

There is a bonus multiplier for correct answers depending on how many got it wrong.


I think it would also be super interesting and informative for some questions to be more intricate by describing an in-game scenario (e.g., opponent has done a certain build) and asking for the correct response (e.g., what is the correct counter move). That sort of thing. I bet a lot of sample questions and answers could be found in the CPL discord where players routinely discuss and ask about various builds and strategies and what the (in)correct or (un)desirable counter responses to them are.

That's what the build order & strategy category is there for and yes is would be good for CPL. You can limit the category like so: "!!gg play Build Orders & Strategy"
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 20 2021 02:47 GMT
#12
On November 20 2021 11:13 Essbee wrote:
Have been enjoying it, really fun. I think there should be a setting to increase the time limit. From 15 secs to maybe up to a minute?

I've submitted 7 questions too.


It's not customizable as it stands other than a global setting. I've bumped it to 20s.
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 20 2021 03:34 GMT
#13
On November 20 2021 09:41 Jealous wrote:
Oh man, trivia channels were HOT back in the day, but they had different modes and such - general trivia, SC trivia, sports, etc. Hope this expands

For easy BW questions, add mineral and gas cost questions for units, particularly underused ones. What is the gas cost of five Queens? What is the mineral cost of a Scout? How many minerals is an Infested Terran? Etc.

Further stuff could be upgraded costs - how much for the Dark Archon energy upgrade? Etc. That is several dozen new questions right there.

How about asking for obscure BW knowledge, in the spirit of trivia? "A progamer named himself after this obscure map with tiny ramps." (815) "Light lost to Tempest who used this piece of the Protoss arsenal to hold off a BBS" (shield battery vs. Cannon vs. DT vs. Storm) etc.


Chip in 4-5 questions?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10152 Posts
November 20 2021 03:46 GMT
#14
On November 20 2021 12:34 dark.matter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2021 09:41 Jealous wrote:
Oh man, trivia channels were HOT back in the day, but they had different modes and such - general trivia, SC trivia, sports, etc. Hope this expands

For easy BW questions, add mineral and gas cost questions for units, particularly underused ones. What is the gas cost of five Queens? What is the mineral cost of a Scout? How many minerals is an Infested Terran? Etc.

Further stuff could be upgraded costs - how much for the Dark Archon energy upgrade? Etc. That is several dozen new questions right there.

How about asking for obscure BW knowledge, in the spirit of trivia? "A progamer named himself after this obscure map with tiny ramps." (815) "Light lost to Tempest who used this piece of the Protoss arsenal to hold off a BBS" (shield battery vs. Cannon vs. DT vs. Storm) etc.


Chip in 4-5 questions?

Thought I just did >_>
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
dark.matter
Profile Joined April 2017
177 Posts
November 20 2021 06:40 GMT
#15
On November 20 2021 12:46 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2021 12:34 dark.matter wrote:
On November 20 2021 09:41 Jealous wrote:
Oh man, trivia channels were HOT back in the day, but they had different modes and such - general trivia, SC trivia, sports, etc. Hope this expands

For easy BW questions, add mineral and gas cost questions for units, particularly underused ones. What is the gas cost of five Queens? What is the mineral cost of a Scout? How many minerals is an Infested Terran? Etc.

Further stuff could be upgraded costs - how much for the Dark Archon energy upgrade? Etc. That is several dozen new questions right there.

How about asking for obscure BW knowledge, in the spirit of trivia? "A progamer named himself after this obscure map with tiny ramps." (815) "Light lost to Tempest who used this piece of the Protoss arsenal to hold off a BBS" (shield battery vs. Cannon vs. DT vs. Storm) etc.


Chip in 4-5 questions?

Thought I just did >_>


ah k mb.
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-20 12:46:01
November 20 2021 12:42 GMT
#16
Great work, always nice to have some quiz with others! I think that in the future it would be nice if discord servers could have some way to have and manage their own separate categories when inviting bot. For example BSL and STPL could have only questions about those tournaments respectively.
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