EPTInterview with Mapmaker of Neo-Sylphid & Eclipse
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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ggsimida
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On May 02 2021 16:48 aokces wrote: That Galaxy map is beautiful! Where can I find it to download? could only find crux and leviathan, appreciate if someone knows how to get the others already tried https://cafe.naver.com/edac/72043 | ||
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Freakling
Germany1416 Posts
On May 02 2021 20:06 oxKnu wrote: It is a modern map, it uses remastered ramps.Great interview. You can see how much thought he puts into his maps by how he talks about the process. And the results show. Shoutout to Achernar. What an absolute legend. Leviathan is genius. (a modern take on it would very much be appreciated) On May 02 2021 20:32 ggsimida wrote: If you read the interview you'd know that most of them were hosted on intothemap.com, which used to be the biggest Korean map database/community site, but went defunct shortly after the release of SC2 and the alleged end of the BW scene. All the maps (well, not technically every single one of them, if you find this fine distinction important, but a database containing probably thousands nontheless) were lost to the public.could only find crux and leviathan, appreciate if someone knows how to get the others already tried https://cafe.naver.com/edac/72043 If LatiAs or any other Korean map makers (or players/fans, but maps are mostly downloaded by other map makers) still have some map files it would certainly be a good idea to upload them to BWMN, for example, or at least share them via file hosting. On May 02 2021 20:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Learn Korean. Noted.He is 2100 mmr in Korea server and also talk with progamers and watch games.Take notes foreign map makers. LATHIAS your map sylphid is the by far the best created in recent times.Is a shame it was removed from ladder.Im not a big fan of eclipse tho. my zvp win rate in that map is like 15% | ||
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radley
Poland522 Posts
On May 02 2021 20:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: He is 2100 mmr in Korea server and also talk with progamers and watch games.Take notes foreign map makers. LATHIAS your map sylphid is the by far the best created in recent times.Is a shame it was removed from ladder.Im not a big fan of eclipse tho. my zvp win rate in that map is like 15% I suppose it's still bigger than on rest of maps, eon. Right? | ||
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ggsimida
906 Posts
On May 02 2021 22:05 Freakling wrote: ]If you read the interview you'd know that most of them were hosted on intothemap.com, which used to be the biggest Korean map database/community site, but went defunct shortly after the release of SC2 and the alleged end of the BW scene. All the maps were lost to the public. If LatiAs or any other Korean map makers (or players/fans, but maps are mostly downloaded by other map makers) still have some map files it would certainly be a good idea to upload them to BWMN, for example, or at least share them via file hosting. you could also read my post which explicitly stated that i found crux and leviathan so "All the maps were lost to the public." is factually false. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1416 Posts
On May 02 2021 22:15 ggsimida wrote: And as I stated at least the latter cannot possibly be older than ~2 years, it's reasonable to assume that the other one is relatively recent as well (Naver post dated to 2018), so obviously they were never part of the Intothemap database to begin with.you could also read my post which explicitly stated that i found crux and leviathan so "All the maps were lost to the public." is factually false. | ||
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ggsimida
906 Posts
On May 02 2021 22:26 Freakling wrote: And as I stated at least the latter cannot possibly be older than ~2 years, it's reasonable to assume that the other one is relatively recent as well (Naver post dated to 2018), so obviously they were never part of the Intothemap database to begin with. the guy who posted crux says he found it in his old BW download folder | ||
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oxKnu
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland2087 Posts
On May 02 2021 22:05 Freakling wrote: It is a modern map, it uses remastered ramps. If you read the interview you'd know that most of them were hosted on intothemap.com, which used to be the biggest Korean map database/community site, but went defunct shortly after the release of SC2 and the alleged end of the BW scene. All the maps were lost to the public. If LatiAs or any other Korean map makers (or players/fans, but maps are mostly downloaded by other map makers) still have some map files it would certainly be a good idea to upload them to BWMN, for example, or at least share them via file hosting. Learn Korean. Noted. Need some kind of medium between foreign and korean scenes.. idk whocould that be though. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24664 Posts
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AleXoundOS
Russian Federation441 Posts
On May 02 2021 22:05 Freakling wrote: If LatiAs or any other Korean map makers (or players/fans, but maps are mostly downloaded by other map makers) still have some map files it would certainly be a good idea to upload them to BWMN, for example, or at least share them via file hosting. Maybe upload here: https://repmastered.app/maps. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary4848 Posts
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JungleTerrain
Chile796 Posts
 But it's funny to know that Korean mapmakers (or at the very least Latias) were looking at Bwmn back then.I would say one of my biggest failures as a mapmaker is not taking the time to look at EVERY match that happens on my maps and learning from it. There's been many times where I just make a map and I just don't care (usually because of reasons outside of BW) or when I do care I don't know when/where my maps are being used. I'll definitely try to do this more going forward... Great interview. My one question is: how come Achernar's maps never made it into any sort of league or anything if he was considered a "legend"? Or is that just from hindsight? | ||
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Freakling
Germany1416 Posts
On May 03 2021 08:48 JungleTerrain wrote: Ha, I remember 10+ years ago going on Intothemap and taking a look at maps there. I feel like I had seen some of these maps by Achernar or at least maps that look very similar. I was so sad when the site went down But it's funny to know that Korean mapmakers (or at the very least Latias) were looking at Bwmn back then.I would say one of my biggest failures as a mapmaker is not taking the time to look at EVERY match that happens on my maps and learning from it. There's been many times where I just make a map and I just don't care (usually because of reasons outside of BW) or when I do care I don't know when/where my maps are being used. I'll definitely try to do this more going forward... Great interview. My one question is: how come Achernar's maps never made it into any sort of league or anything if he was considered a "legend"? Or is that just from hindsight? Because Kespa map making was mostly a closed system, I guess. Furthermore a problem with most Korean maps and map makers, back then and even today, and I would also argue even more than in the foreign scene, actually, is that they are maps made for map makers, not for players to a high degree. Look at the example maps posted in the OP and you can clearly observe for each of them how they are more representations of abstract concepts rather than meant to be serious attempts to make a map that is actually balanced and plays well. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3300 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium3779 Posts
The Galaxy map by Achernar is an absolute masterpiece too. Wowza. | ||
thedeadhaji
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Kinky
United States4099 Posts
Neo-sylphid Eclipse | ||
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation344 Posts
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Szinkler
Hungary290 Posts
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