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why this guy (Shinee) can't come Ro24 ASL season 1

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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-08 12:15:41
March 08 2021 12:14 GMT
#1
He is the best player in the ladder. So he can win some bunch of games at S rank everyday. Sometimes, I think He is better than Flash. He is so strong and excellent in his games. He can beat Terran, Protoss, Zerg and Random players all day.

https://play.afreecatv.com/onlysibar/

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Edit: why this guy (Shinee) can't come Ro24 ASL season 1-10?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 08 2021 12:46 GMT
#2
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1927 Posts
March 08 2021 13:01 GMT
#3
On March 08 2021 21:46 Avi-Love wrote:
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.


what's the reason?
I don't believe you.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
March 08 2021 13:23 GMT
#4
Im wondering too.
-.-
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
March 08 2021 13:26 GMT
#5
On March 08 2021 22:01 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2021 21:46 Avi-Love wrote:
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.


what's the reason?

He played a Chinese tournament with Savior, when others pros decided didn't play.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 08 2021 14:28 GMT
#6
On March 08 2021 21:46 Avi-Love wrote:
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.

Why does Arto want to take S rank while it doesn't mean anything?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 08 2021 14:40 GMT
#7
From what I heard he's banned from ASL events because he went to an ASL qualifier, beat a couple of pros, and then dropped out before qualifying.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 08 2021 14:44 GMT
#8
On March 08 2021 23:28 bovienchien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2021 21:46 Avi-Love wrote:
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.

Why does Arto want to take S rank while it doesn't mean anything?


Because it serves as a goal / milestone for hobby players, seems like a fairly simple concept to understand, which part is confusing you?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6511 Posts
March 08 2021 14:53 GMT
#9
On March 08 2021 22:26 masoka82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2021 22:01 abuse wrote:
On March 08 2021 21:46 Avi-Love wrote:
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.


what's the reason?

He played a Chinese tournament with Savior, when others pros decided didn't play.

Movie also played it.Koreans dislike him too for that reason?
Oya187
Profile Joined May 2018
50 Posts
March 08 2021 14:57 GMT
#10
From what ive heard he is banned from ASL because of bm behavior, but that might just be rumours I dunno.
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 08 2021 15:04 GMT
#11
On March 08 2021 23:53 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2021 22:26 masoka82 wrote:
On March 08 2021 22:01 abuse wrote:
On March 08 2021 21:46 Avi-Love wrote:
Being the "best player on the ladder" doesn't mean anything, he's not better than Flash, he's not even close. He's also one of the most (if not THE most) disliked players in Korea, and for good reason.


what's the reason?

He played a Chinese tournament with Savior, when others pros decided didn't play.

Movie also played it.Koreans dislike him too for that reason?



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radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
March 08 2021 15:52 GMT
#12
I've beat him using protoss in hay tournament. He was so pissed off that he quit, even though it was bo3 and then his colleague convinced him after 10 minutes to come back and play.
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 08 2021 16:00 GMT
#13
On March 08 2021 23:40 9-BiT wrote:
From what I heard he's banned from ASL events because he went to an ASL qualifier, beat a couple of pros, and then dropped out before qualifying.

Yes. I have C rank and I want to take B rank but I don't know why I want to take it.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Return
Profile Joined June 2005
Ivory Coast856 Posts
March 08 2021 16:02 GMT
#14
On March 09 2021 01:00 bovienchien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2021 23:40 9-BiT wrote:
From what I heard he's banned from ASL events because he went to an ASL qualifier, beat a couple of pros, and then dropped out before qualifying.

Yes. I have C rank and I want to take B rank but I don't know why I want to take it.


probably cause its some kind of metric to show that you're improving and gets you to face better players. Wanting to move up a ladder isnt that weird of a concept
Diiiscoo-oh, thats where the happy people go!
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
March 08 2021 16:11 GMT
#15
On March 09 2021 01:00 bovienchien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2021 23:40 9-BiT wrote:
From what I heard he's banned from ASL events because he went to an ASL qualifier, beat a couple of pros, and then dropped out before qualifying.

Yes. I have C rank and I want to take B rank but I don't know why I want to take it.


Based on the extremely shitty thread, your inability to correctly gauge the perceived skill level of sc players and the importance of the sc:r ladder rankings I am not surprised that your ranking is low.

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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 08 2021 16:20 GMT
#16
It's my fault . At least, I am better than D rank players!
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 08 2021 17:34 GMT
#17
Being good at ladder usually just means you're good at playing standard builds with the delay that p2p causes. Totally different from a LAN environment with actual planning having to be involved in the boX series.
Mine gas, build tanks.
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
March 08 2021 18:23 GMT
#18
holy shit you guys spread so much gossip. He's banned because he qualified for one of the ASL's but quit last minute because he didn't want to travel to Seoul.

And no, he's not hated by pros I mean ffs Light is his teacher. Every pro would play him if he brings a spon but pros dont bring spons to amateurs because it's seen as noob bashing.

And he mentions all the time there is a gap between top amateurs and pros. He always mentions he's super scared to play Best. He would never say he's better than Flash LOL
hatcherycakesc
Profile Joined November 2020
6 Posts
March 08 2021 18:51 GMT
#19
On March 09 2021 01:20 bovienchien wrote:
It's my fault . At least, I am better than D rank players!


But that's literally what Avi just said you aren't. Ladder doesn't matter so you can be better than some b players and some d players can be better than you. Duh.
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Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
March 08 2021 19:02 GMT
#20
I'm pretty sure he is more than good enough to get far in ASL. The reason he is not is probably because of bad motivation, not being that interested in the spotlight, inconsistencies in his play and some bans from dropping out of the tournament/going to china with savior etc..
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