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[ASL9] Ro24 Preview Pt 1: Here We Go Again

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[ASL9] Ro24 Preview Pt 1: Here We Go Again

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February 15th, 2020 09:49 GMT
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Here we go again. Another tirade about how "the tides of change are upon us", how "the legends of Brood War will finally be toppled by new blood"...but aren't we just stepping back into the same old narrative? Flash is a god, Bisu is back in action, and a slew of third gen SSL-era players are vying for the throne. So what's changed?

Well, if there's one thing that's clearly different from previous seasons of ASL, it's that the rookies in the scene are finally stepping onto the big stage. Since the first ASL, a majority of the participating slots have been shoo-ins for former pros or notable streamers, but this season has seven amateurs playing in the league. That's almost double any of the previous seasons! So as much as we at TL like to harp on the idea of bringing in new talent and watching StarCraft age, it might actually be a reality we're living in. Finally.

Based on the upsets we've witnessed in the last few seasons (especially last season), it's entirely possible that this season could go off the rails as early as the Ro24. The Bo1 format is especially punishing for unprepared players, and it's an opportunity for lesser players to take games off established titans who erroneously think they can cruise through based on their skill alone. At the same time, the unpredictability of the Ro24 rewards the long-time players who have seen it all. It's a knife's edge, and no doubt we'll have our pulses racing waiting with bated breath during the entire round.

I, for one, am awaiting the second coming of Stork. But that's just me.


Table of contents

  • Intro
  •  
  • Group A Preview
  •  
  • Group B preview
  •  
  • (Wiki)Liquipedia


Video Recaps

Back In The Thick Of It

We’re kicking of the season with the return of (P)Bisu to his first offline tournament since the completion of his military service. Alongside him, we have (Z)beast, who's making his first ASL appearance, (T)Ample, and the wildcard (P)Horang2.

This is Bisu’s group to win. There's very little doubt about that, but interestingly enough, Bisu hasn’t been doing so hot in sponsor games. He has a 50% overall win rate this month and a surprisingly poor 46% win rate in PvZ. This might prove an opening for beast's tremendous ZvP to exploit. If one were to just look at numbers, it would say that Bisu is in trouble, but looking at the actual caliber of players that lead to these numbers, that narrative doesn’t hold up. Bisu should still be able to run circles around anyone else in the group.

Beast has managed to barely hold on to the tide of returning pros over the years as someone who thrived in the early post-KeSPA days. Some could say he completely fell off, but to see him finally make it into the ASL does give hope that he hasn’t lost the edge to compete even at this level. While Bisu may not be an easy opponent to beat, an out of practice Horang2 and Ample (who he is able to regularly beat in sponmatches) does give him an opportunity to make second place.

Ample has been the top terran in the HAMIC team league (filled with the top tier semi-pros looking to break out into the offline scene) with a very solid win rate. His sponbbang ratings show that he has been really pushing his TvP, and while the quality of his opponents do not seem up to the pro standards, his fundamentals will be sharp, and maybe it can be enough to edge victory against Horang2. Maybe from there he can aim for beating beast in the final match.

Horang2 has been one of the hardest people to predict in ASL history. It might just be that he has strong fundamentals and is able to get himself back up to speed in absolutely no time, but who knows? He very rarely plays BW on stream and often opts to play other games like PUBG instead. He has only one sponmatch played this month and he lost it...but this was the case in ASL7 when he made the Ro8. During ASL8, he won the wildcard spot to get seeded into the Ro16 which he then promptly lost 0-2. That being said, it is entirely possible Horang2 just shows up and wins and I have egg in my face for betting against him.

It wouldn’t be the first time.

(P)Bisu < (Wiki)Inner Coven > (Z)beast
(P)Horang2< (Wiki)Inner Coven > (T)Ample
(P)Bisu < (Wiki)Escalade > (T)Ample
(P)Horang2 < (Wiki)Escalade > (Z)beast
(T)Ample < Neo Sylphid > (Z)beast

(P)Bisu and (Z)beast Advance to the Ro16
Group A Recap

Something Old, Something New...
Something from the Jurassic Period

(P)Stork - (Z)Larva - (P)huro - (T)JyJ


Stork hasn’t been playing much compared to his peers but has still remained excellent in regards to taking meaningful victories in sponsor matches. When you are up 2-0 against Flash, you know you’re in a good position in PvT as far as skill and confidence goes. He's got a favorable opening match against JyJ that should put him in a position to face Larva in the winners match. I would say Larva takes that match though, all things considered. However, I do not believe either JyJ or huro can step up to Stork, securing him a safe second spot at least to make it to the Ro16.

Huro was a former Samsung KHAN b-team player with no formal appearances in Proleague. He has been placing high up in online tournaments both Korean and foreign and even winning multiple Have At! You tournaments and placing top 4 in CasterMuse’s CNSL previous season. This is his first ASL appearance, and I look forward to how he performs in the tournament, but it's going to be a steep climb for him.

JyJ makes his third consecutive ASL Ro24 appearance. He went 0-2 in ASL7 to 1-2 in his ASL8 group. It's a slight improvement, but an improvement nonetheless. JyJ benefits from having good practice partners. He can call in former SKT T1 teammates like BeSt to coach him and practice against in TvP, but will it be enough to take the win? JyJ’s chances hinges on his victory on the first match. Should he be unable to beat Stork here, it's unlikely he will take the final game either as a rematch or against Larva.

Last season, Larva was one game away from making it to the Ro8. However, he was unable to take the second set victory against Action, and promptly lost both the winners game series against him and then the final match series against Light. For this season, he seems to have a good start to get him back to the Ro16. In his massive amount of sponmatches, he has been trading wins with Bisu and Mini, which puts him in a good position against Stork and his opening opponent huro. And should he need to face JyJ, I do believe he will take the win. This is Larva’s group, no doubt about.

(Z)Larva< (Wiki)Inner Coven >(P)huro
(P)Stork< (Wiki)Inner Coven >(T)JyJ
(P)Stork< (Wiki)Escalade >(Z)Larva
(P)huro< (Wiki)Escalade >(T)JyJ
(P)Stork< Neo Sylphid > (T)JyJ

(Z)Larva and (P)Stork Advance to the Ro16!



Writers: BLinD-RawR
Graphics: v1
Editors: EsportsJohn

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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4235 Posts
February 15 2020 09:53 GMT
#2
same predictions as mine

ASL season 9 here we go! the break was way too long anyways!

Can't wait to see some good games.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
February 15 2020 12:49 GMT
#3
Cheering for Bisu to get through! I love the fact that the idea of the "old guard vs the new" is accelerating even more as legends return from military and play against these new (or not so new) kids on the block. GOGO ASL!
Mine gas, build tanks.
ERSJ
Profile Joined October 2018
Sweden57 Posts
February 15 2020 14:26 GMT
#4
WRAAAATHCHIIIIIIILD
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50628 Posts
February 15 2020 14:38 GMT
#5
On February 15 2020 23:26 ERSJ wrote:
WRAAAATHCHIIIIIIILD

Up the irons brother.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-15 15:36:56
February 15 2020 15:36 GMT
#6
I think (hope) bisu will make it through, along with Ample for instance. But beast/Ample or Ample/beast and a quick exit for bisu is clearly an option for group A, and i dont think that Horang2 stands a chance. As stated, he lacks practice, needs practice for the 3 match ups and never been a fan of the guy.

As for group B, i totally agree that Larva should and will emerge 1st in any possible scenario. I am not counting nobody out for the 2nd place though, and this is why it should be the most exciting group to watch.

:D
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
February 15 2020 18:28 GMT
#7
Great article! Can't wait to watch Bisu on Inner Coven!
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
February 15 2020 19:11 GMT
#8
I think ample will make it through, but only by beating bisu. In my ideal world they both make it
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
February 15 2020 23:29 GMT
#9
When does it start👀❤️😍
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
February 16 2020 01:47 GMT
#10
also to note a very tricky map pool, not liking it for terran overall, lets see how many make it to ro8
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50628 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 02:32:38
February 16 2020 01:49 GMT
#11
On February 16 2020 08:29 Timebon3s wrote:
When does it start👀❤️😍

Today


Sunday, Feb 16 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
February 16 2020 03:48 GMT
#12
SONG BYONG GU
SONG BYONG GU
Liquipedia
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50628 Posts
February 16 2020 04:33 GMT
#13
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/556106-asl9-ro24-group-a

Live Report thread for Group A
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
February 16 2020 06:00 GMT
#14
Wasn't the last ASL supposed to be Flash's last one? I kinda remember him making some farewell speech o_O
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SCTranslator
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Korea (South)40 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 06:55:39
February 16 2020 06:47 GMT
#15
Hello guys,

This is one of Bisu's best PvsZ match with English subtitles, I just uploaded it;




Let's watch this until ASL starts! G L~

* Sorry for the thumbnail image quality lol but the match is awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNfJZSMtKXrAKfQ3vtgSo5g
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
February 16 2020 08:03 GMT
#16
On February 16 2020 12:48 Elyvilon wrote:
SONG BYONG GU
SONG BYONG GU


This guy knows what's up. ^
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
February 16 2020 09:18 GMT
#17
On February 16 2020 10:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 08:29 Timebon3s wrote:
When does it start👀❤️😍

Today
https://youtu.be/nwNASWGzFVA

Sunday, Feb 16 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


Wow thanks so much :D
Maby an idea to have the countdown in the article so people don't ask stupid questions like me
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
February 16 2020 21:46 GMT
#18
On February 16 2020 18:18 Timebon3s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2020 10:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 16 2020 08:29 Timebon3s wrote:
When does it start👀❤️😍

Today
https://youtu.be/nwNASWGzFVA

Sunday, Feb 16 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


Wow thanks so much :D
Maby an idea to have the countdown in the article so people don't ask stupid questions like me


Check out the Live Report Thread in the "Tourneys" section! You can also check Liquipedia or the right sidebar for when it begins! :D
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 18 2020 03:22 GMT
#19
You're not alone!
The heart's eternal vow
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50628 Posts
February 18 2020 04:39 GMT
#20
Don't know when today's games start?

check the calendar to the right or go to the LR thread
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/556187-asl9-ro24-group-b
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
MelinaZzZz
Profile Joined August 2019
Bulgaria8 Posts
February 18 2020 10:55 GMT
#21
I look for a song, thats before every match, something like " ready to go for , ready to fight for" , etc, ... please help
Juaks
Profile Joined June 2010
United States384 Posts
February 19 2020 23:20 GMT
#22
Feels good to have ASL back. I am happy for Bisu, Stork, and larva going through. Rooting for Firebathero next.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
February 20 2020 00:01 GMT
#23
On February 20 2020 08:20 Juaks wrote:
Feels good to have ASL back. I am happy for Bisu, Stork, and larva going through. Rooting for Firebathero next.

His sponbbang results aren't the best, but he beat GuemChi/IamMang, Rush, and Larva in the qualifiers, so there's certainly a chance.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 20 2020 01:01 GMT
#24
On February 20 2020 09:01 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2020 08:20 Juaks wrote:
Feels good to have ASL back. I am happy for Bisu, Stork, and larva going through. Rooting for Firebathero next.

His sponbbang results aren't the best, but he beat GuemChi/IamMang, Rush, and Larva in the qualifiers, so there's certainly a chance.

How was it against Larva, was it streamed?
The heart's eternal vow
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
February 20 2020 01:25 GMT
#25
On February 20 2020 10:01 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2020 09:01 QOGQOG wrote:
On February 20 2020 08:20 Juaks wrote:
Feels good to have ASL back. I am happy for Bisu, Stork, and larva going through. Rooting for Firebathero next.

His sponbbang results aren't the best, but he beat GuemChi/IamMang, Rush, and Larva in the qualifiers, so there's certainly a chance.

How was it against Larva, was it streamed?

I don't believe it was streamed, but according to Liquipedia, Firebathero 2-0ed Larva in the finals of the group.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 20 2020 22:02 GMT
#26
On February 20 2020 10:25 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2020 10:01 PVJ wrote:
On February 20 2020 09:01 QOGQOG wrote:
On February 20 2020 08:20 Juaks wrote:
Feels good to have ASL back. I am happy for Bisu, Stork, and larva going through. Rooting for Firebathero next.

His sponbbang results aren't the best, but he beat GuemChi/IamMang, Rush, and Larva in the qualifiers, so there's certainly a chance.

How was it against Larva, was it streamed?

I don't believe it was streamed, but according to Liquipedia, Firebathero 2-0ed Larva in the finals of the group.

wowo

makes me expect fbh moving to the next round!
The heart's eternal vow
CeJo
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
February 23 2020 14:44 GMT
#27
On February 18 2020 19:55 MelinaZzZz wrote:
I look for a song, thats before every match, something like " ready to go for , ready to fight for" , etc, ... please help

Go for a ride

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