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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 03 2019 07:18 GMT
#1
This was my post 3 weeks ago reporting the maphack user, but Blizzard ignored my words.
us.forums.blizzard.com

I just posted again with obvious evidence this time, and I want people's help and words.
us.forums.blizzard.com


Here's the YouTube video.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 03 2019 07:47 GMT
#2
Im really wishing blizzard doesnt ignore this time. I want their reply and reaction towards to the hack users
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
428 Posts
June 03 2019 13:14 GMT
#3
the dev team hovers over tl from time to time, maybe we get lucky.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 03 2019 13:45 GMT
#4
Kind of impressed people still creating maphacks for a 20 years old game.
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
June 03 2019 15:51 GMT
#5
his nickname in that video is: RemasterEnd...
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
June 03 2019 17:06 GMT
#6
tweet blixzz about this
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1783 Posts
June 03 2019 18:29 GMT
#7
On June 03 2019 16:47 LaStScan wrote:
Im really wishing blizzard doesnt ignore this time. I want their reply and reaction towards to the hack users


hey, they didn't care about cheating 8 years ago as well. Lucky for you anyway.
LML
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
June 03 2019 21:40 GMT
#8
On June 04 2019 03:29 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2019 16:47 LaStScan wrote:
Im really wishing blizzard doesnt ignore this time. I want their reply and reaction towards to the hack users


hey, they didn't care about cheating 8 years ago as well. Lucky for you anyway.



ooohhhhh SHIT that is some quality shade being thrown


Back to the hack discussion: From the video it appears it isn't quite full blown yet? So you can see the entire map without fog of war and shroud of darkness. You can see the opponent's spawn but only outlines/tracking of buildings and units?
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nahyunjung
Profile Joined October 2018
40 Posts
June 03 2019 22:00 GMT
#9
iccup is currently littered with korean hackers (nansuhi, naturalnine, aka1033 to name a few) so regular SC:BW has plenty of issues as well
JakePlissken
Profile Joined August 2018
55 Posts
June 04 2019 01:13 GMT
#10
Original BW ladder died because Blizzard didn't make any attempt to stop hackers, and without supported third party servers the game would have died completely. I've also seen replays posted in FBW, CPL discord, etc. that show clear evidence of maphacking on the ladder already. Unless the Remastered team dedicates a lot of time and resources to creating dedicated anti-hack utilities, ladder is going to be screwed - even in cases where neither player is cheating, the presence of maphacks de-legitimizes the entire system. There's no alternative on the horizon - ICCUP is not really supported anymore, and ShieldBattery is dead.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
June 04 2019 02:00 GMT
#11
This guy is advertising on youtube? Scum. lol
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
June 04 2019 04:53 GMT
#12
I hope Blizzard does something but the chances of any intervention is probably slim considering I've never seen a single person banned, despite probably hundreds if not thousands of reports on people who had blatantly disgusting behavior (40yrsoldvirgin writing slurs and obscenities everyday for over a year, that one guy who constantly ladder abused with his own accounts, etc).
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden535 Posts
June 04 2019 11:23 GMT
#13
This is on a custom map. If this worked in ranked games, wouldn't he advertise it as such?
I think it's a lot harder to catch cheaters on custom maps, as pretty much anything is possible through the editor(?).
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada786 Posts
June 04 2019 14:42 GMT
#14
It took them nearly 3 seasons to ban that sleepist guy who would abuse to no. 1 on ladder for multiple seasons on multiple IDs by matching himself (what a fuckin loser to have that much time and dedication to do that). He probably got away with it for more than a year. Now they’re going to crackdown on individual hackers ? Good luck, they still can’t even figure out how to fix basic chat functions 2 years after launch, how on earth are they going to figure out how to police the server? The hackers have already got past the launcher safeguard that blizzard was relying on
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
iG.Arcneon
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland333 Posts
June 04 2019 14:55 GMT
#15
On June 04 2019 23:42 castleeMg wrote:
It took them nearly 3 seasons to ban that sleepist guy who would abuse to no. 1 on ladder for multiple seasons on multiple IDs by matching himself (what a fuckin loser to have that much time and dedication to do that). He probably got away with it for more than a year. Now they’re going to crackdown on individual hackers ? Good luck, they still can’t even figure out how to fix basic chat functions 2 years after launch, how on earth are they going to figure out how to police the server? The hackers have already got past the launcher safeguard that blizzard was relying on


Hahaha, this is so sad but true. Wouldn't get hopes up for any anti-hack/cheating coming up any time soon, if ever :D
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
June 04 2019 15:13 GMT
#16
On June 04 2019 20:23 A.Alm wrote:
This is on a custom map. If this worked in ranked games, wouldn't he advertise it as such?
I think it's a lot harder to catch cheaters on custom maps, as pretty much anything is possible through the editor(?).

Cannot do some4thing like this with a map editor…
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden535 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-04 16:04:37
June 04 2019 16:02 GMT
#17
On June 05 2019 00:13 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2019 20:23 A.Alm wrote:
This is on a custom map. If this worked in ranked games, wouldn't he advertise it as such?
I think it's a lot harder to catch cheaters on custom maps, as pretty much anything is possible through the editor(?).

Cannot do some4thing like this with a map editor…


1v1 ranked games have less diversity than custom maps -> easier to write anti-cheat code (?)
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
June 04 2019 17:39 GMT
#18
On June 04 2019 13:53 SCC-Faust wrote:
(40yrsoldvirgin writing slurs and obscenities everyday for over a year


Wow I got that guy on ladder twice with a few months in between, he literally told me to go kill myself constantly the whole games (and one of them was a 40 minutes ZvP). Can't believe people are that retarded.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
June 04 2019 20:39 GMT
#19
Sleepist got banned? I stand corrected then, they do ban people. Thought he just got tired of doing it.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada786 Posts
June 04 2019 23:32 GMT
#20
On June 05 2019 05:39 SCC-Faust wrote:
Sleepist got banned? I stand corrected then, they do ban people. Thought he just got tired of doing it.


he got banned after he had like 7/10 accounts in the top 10. there was a post on blizzards forums about him and they finally banned him after that
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 06 2019 07:10 GMT
#21
Blizz doesn't give a shit as always. I've been posting many issues since new format forum came over and got zero blue answers.
sunbeams are never made like me...
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
June 06 2019 11:52 GMT
#22
Blizzard response:

Grant Davies StarCraft Developer:
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’ve actually already been discussing this internally and we have a plan to address this. In the short term, we’ll also be taking action on accounts that we find to be using it..

Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 06 2019 14:37 GMT
#23
On June 06 2019 20:52 earob84 wrote:
Blizzard response:

Show nested quote +
Grant Davies StarCraft Developer:
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’ve actually already been discussing this internally and we have a plan to address this. In the short term, we’ll also be taking action on accounts that we find to be using it..



Read: we don't know what to do about it so far, please be patient.
Broodwar for life!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-07 08:54:13
June 07 2019 08:53 GMT
#24
My understanding is that map hack (only) happen in UMS mode (not Melee or other modes), since the triggers are enabled there (someone could easily have a clear vision of the other player, etc..). so anyone playing in a map Using Map Settings, is subject to hack.

The point is if I don't trust the map host, I shouldn't play UMS.

Am I right?
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4404 Posts
June 07 2019 11:25 GMT
#25
On June 07 2019 17:53 Moataz wrote:
My understanding is that map hack (only) happen in UMS mode (not Melee or other modes), since the triggers are enabled there (someone could easily have a clear vision of the other player, etc..). so anyone playing in a map Using Map Settings, is subject to hack.

The point is if I don't trust the map host, I shouldn't play UMS.

Am I right?

Well, if you join a 1v1 on Hunters UMS you get what you deserve.
But, pretty sure it's melee mode in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
June 07 2019 12:20 GMT
#26
On June 07 2019 20:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2019 17:53 Moataz wrote:
My understanding is that map hack (only) happen in UMS mode (not Melee or other modes), since the triggers are enabled there (someone could easily have a clear vision of the other player, etc..). so anyone playing in a map Using Map Settings, is subject to hack.

The point is if I don't trust the map host, I shouldn't play UMS.

Am I right?

Well, if you join a 1v1 on Hunters UMS you get what you deserve.
But, pretty sure it's melee mode in the video.

Why you seem to be a little angry.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
June 19 2019 10:53 GMT
#27
I still couldn't believe that maphack exists in melee mode, maybe 3rd party tool or other things.

But if it's a map thing, couldn't Blizzard check the signature/hash (MD5/SHA-1) of the map for 1 player, and compare it to the original signature of the map.

for example: Fighting Spirit MD5 is always=2FD0919F83BFD647EE853F8FA3A12614

BWAPI even has a built-in function for that.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
g0rynich
Profile Joined October 2016
Russian Federation139 Posts
June 19 2019 11:40 GMT
#28
Played two games vs a hacker as i assume on ladder few days ago. Im pretty sure this mh exist in ladder games. Can give you both replays. Both games at 2200 mmr kr ladder
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
June 19 2019 14:21 GMT
#29
Not every cheat/advantage in the game is referenced to a map modification (map hack), it shouldn't even be called a hack, cheat/advantage is more accurate.

The CoachAI knows everything about the enemy players (Multiplayer included like Lan/ICCUP and you'll get the ICCUP win points).
[image loading]

Can we call this also mh (map hack) ?
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-19 16:03:04
June 19 2019 15:51 GMT
#30
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 19 2019 23:21 Moataz wrote:
Not every cheat/advantage in the game is referenced to a map modification (map hack), it shouldn't even be called a hack, cheat/advantage is more accurate.

The CoachAI knows everything about the enemy players (Multiplayer included like Lan/ICCUP and you'll get the ICCUP win points).
[image loading]

Can we call this also mh (map hack) ?


Moataz, we use the name 'map hack' for a specific program that allows players to see through the fog of war, on the entire map, from the first second the game starts. Like typing 'black sheep wall' in single player. It's a hack, because people should obviously not be having this advantage on ladder, and because you need a third party program injecting stuff into memory, or something like that, to get the desired effect. You plugging your own CoachAI here is pretty irrelevant and not what people here mean by maphack.
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-19 16:36:37
June 19 2019 16:31 GMT
#31
Thanks fazek42,

FYI, it is pretty relevant, the CoachAI (beside the pic I posted) allows players to see through the dark/fog, on the entire map (but not the mini-map), from the first second the game starts. Like typing 'black sheep wall' in single player, you can even see the exact destination the human-enemy-units are heading to, what orders their units are assigned to do and more. but we can't call this a map hack, can we ?

The problem is that the less experienced players, calls everything a map hack.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-19 17:07:24
June 19 2019 17:06 GMT
#32
On June 19 2019 23:21 Moataz wrote:
Not every cheat/advantage in the game is referenced to a map modification (map hack), it shouldn't even be called a hack, cheat/advantage is more accurate.

The CoachAI knows everything about the enemy players (Multiplayer included like Lan/ICCUP and you'll get the ICCUP win points).
[image loading]

Can we call this also mh (map hack) ?


Difference is, when ICCUp was popular, the CoachAI would not have been allowed as third party tool, it would have been considered a hack by Administration.
Broodwar for life!
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines621 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-19 17:15:04
June 19 2019 17:14 GMT
#33
Not sure if this is new hack or the old glitch, but flying drones are back

this is from a game on 6/19/19, works on current patch

[image loading]
[image loading]
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tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
June 19 2019 21:49 GMT
#34
On June 20 2019 02:14 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
Not sure if this is new hack or the old glitch, but flying drones are back

this is from a game on 6/19/19, works on current patch

[image loading]
[image loading]


Is it done the same way the old glitch was done?

Got a replay?
the last wcs commissioner
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 20 2019 00:05 GMT
#35
The YouTube video I posted is a melee game. The difference between UMS and melee starting is you get to see another screen to press "START" before you actually start your game. Melee is just an instant start as soon as that 5 second countdown is over. Also, you can see from the video that there's BOXES providing what units and buildings are including the health bar. People who have played BW for couple months and understood the game would have known without comparing to other programs like the image above...
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 20 2019 00:09 GMT
#36
On June 20 2019 06:49 tedster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2019 02:14 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
Not sure if this is new hack or the old glitch, but flying drones are back

this is from a game on 6/19/19, works on current patch

[image loading]
[image loading]


Is it done the same way the old glitch was done?

Got a replay?


Flying drone works on all different patches and versions. However, if you do that on ladder, you are taking a risk of getting banned.

The difficulty level of flying drone bug is pretty high. It's not easy and consuming many seconds.
I do it sometimes on stream when I play 2v2s and ahead of the game just for my viewers.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
June 20 2019 03:44 GMT
#37
lol i don't get it. why would you cheat at a game that is only supposed to assess your skill? if you get to a higher rating with a mh, what have you achieved? i just don't get it
get rich or die mining
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
June 20 2019 06:35 GMT
#38
Some people just have shitty lives and they get their pleasure from ruining other peoples fun.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
June 20 2019 08:13 GMT
#39
TT
get rich or die mining
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1530 Posts
June 22 2019 11:07 GMT
#40
Crimson)S(hadow way to divert the attention from a Protoss player screenshot clearly using a 3rd party software to a Zerg doing a well known glitch that has been there forever and actually is not simple to execute...

Im onto you Protoss sympathizer! ; D

ko-fi.com/luckynoob
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
June 22 2019 15:16 GMT
#41
so
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
vT.Dream
Profile Joined June 2018
4 Posts
June 22 2019 19:12 GMT
#42
where is the video?
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
July 04 2019 08:03 GMT
#43
On June 20 2019 09:09 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2019 06:49 tedster wrote:
On June 20 2019 02:14 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
Not sure if this is new hack or the old glitch, but flying drones are back

this is from a game on 6/19/19, works on current patch

[image loading]
[image loading]


Is it done the same way the old glitch was done?

Got a replay?


Flying drone works on all different patches and versions. However, if you do that on ladder, you are taking a risk of getting banned.

The difficulty level of flying drone bug is pretty high. It's not easy and consuming many seconds.
I do it sometimes on stream when I play 2v2s and ahead of the game just for my viewers.



If its the old flying drone its simple. Set drone to build extractor, shift-queue destination after. When hes floating above the Gas you use up all the money so Extractor isnt built and the shift-queue destination is used meanwhile being in float-state.

This bug IIRC is fixed since patch 1.10 (non-RM).

If you say its working now the patches must have been reversed or there is a new way of doing it.
-.-
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28781 Posts
July 04 2019 12:10 GMT
#44
On June 20 2019 12:44 Alejandrisha wrote:
lol i don't get it. why would you cheat at a game that is only supposed to assess your skill? if you get to a higher rating with a mh, what have you achieved? i just don't get it


usually people who cheat lie to themselves and tell themselves that 'other people are also cheating' 'they had an unfair advantage through X, I'm just equating the playfield' and stuff like that, making it seem to themselves that their cheating isn't really cheating, it's just making up for other people cheating.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
July 04 2019 13:02 GMT
#45
You cheated not only the game but yourself.

You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing.

You experienced a hollow victory.

Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.

It's sad that you don't know the difference of what true gamers are.
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