You can practice warcraft for two months and learn all the skills You can practice starcraft for two years and still haven’t mastered the basics You can practice red alert for two decays and be as good as when you begin playing
When you can beat two computers in warcraft, you can start winning in multi-player When you can beat seven computers in starcraft, you still can't win against humans When you beat a computer for the eight millionth times you realize you never played humans
Play warcraft for two hours and you can loose to the same strategy 8 times in a row, suffering a crushing defeat Play starcraft for two hours and you can loose to 16 different strategies 8 times in a rows, suffering a crushing defeat Play red alert for two years and you loose to the exact same thing forever, suffering a crushing defeat
Play warcraft you only have to practice one race to learn all the match ups of that race Play starcraft and you will realize, 3 years later, a Zerg exterminator used to be good with the zerg Play red alert and you only need to practice on nation to learn every single nations.
Learn a few strategies from warcraft and you can start winning Master fifty strategies from starcraft and you still can't start winning Learn a few strategies from red alert and they’re all useless. Just stick to the one everyone uses--forever
A noob's day in warcraft: You cornered your enemy but they still managed to get out in one piece A noob's day in starcraft: You realize apart from gorilla warfare there is also ground pushes, ambushes, harass, seiging, nuking, faking, etc. A noob’s day in red alert: You realize strategies are pointless—mass mass mass!
In warcraft no matter how far you're from your base you can still return and save it in ten seconds(teleport) In starcraft your army can be in the east side of your base and yet your west portion still gets wiped out. In red alert, pay attention to your ore miners
In warcraft you scout once every 5 minutes and know what your opponent's army consists of. In starcraft you scout 5 times every minute and still get false intelligence. In red alert you scout for the first 5 minutes and there’ll be no need to do so anymore
In warcraft you can still guess what your opponent's army is made out of even if you don't scout for 5 minutes. In starcraft your opponent's army will be made out stuff that completely counter yours if you don't scout for 3 minutes. In red alert you don’t scout.
In warcraft you can relax if you win a big battle In starcraft you won a big battle and got caught by a drop, loosing your base completely In red alert you won a big battle and you feel good—it’s just normal routine.
In warcraft big battles are often one sided in body count. In starcraft big battles are often two sided in body count. In red alert dead people disappear.
In warcraft your army gets wiped out and you’re basically dead meat In starcraft your army gets wiped out 10 times and the victor is still uncertain. In red alert your army gets wiped out and it’s just everyday life—come back in 10 seconds
In warcraft you can watch half the replay and tell who's going to win In starcraft you realize your prediction on the victor is wrong towards the last minute In red alert you don’t know what a replay is, nor do you know about live games
In warcraft if your main base gets wiped out you're dead meat In starcraft your main base, your expo gets wiped out and yet you and your opponent have already traded base, or you have your Command Centers floating everywhere. In red alert you base can be blown up, as well as captured, stolen, sabotaged, and even packed up to leave the spot
In warcraft the game is set when all the resources are drained In starcraft you drain every last drop of resource and still get a draw
In warcraft you can hold back, turtle and wait for your chance to come. In starcraft if you hold back, turtle and then find out that every expansion are taken by your opponent with their workers working in it. In red alert you only fight for resource, that’s the way it is
In warcraft you build a shit load of defense at your front door and your opponent tell you off for being cheap In starcraft you build a shit load of defense at your front door and your opponent either drop you or nuke you In red alert you build a shit load of defense at your front door, the back door and the interior of your base, and then you tell off your opponent for copying your base pattern.
In warcraft you can use bully lower level units with higher level ones In starcraft you can use marines to counter carriers...
In warcraft you'll have to run when you see air units of opponent if you have no anti-air In starcraft you attack with a muta rush and your base get wiped out by 3 groups of zerglings.
In warcraft you sometimes doubt that quantity makes up for quality In starcraft you never doubt that quantity makes up for quality
In warcraft your heart break every time you loose a unit In starcraft you'll know what’s a horde is like In red alert a unit is made to die
In warcraft you don't separate your troops In starcraft small scale battles are all over the map In red alert the battle fields are all mutually agreed—where ore miners meet!
In warcraft you fight changes In starcraft you change to fight In red alerts there’s no such thing as ‘change’
In warcraft you're proud of your hero that's one level higher than your opponent's In starcraft you're proud of your zealot that blew up 10 siege tanks by sacrificing itself to the spider mine field and tank fire. In red alert you’re proud of your air unit that secured the resource node
In warcraft when your APM is over 150 you'll get bored that you start setting rally points In starcraft when your APM is over 150 you'll be able to execute the most basic commands In red alert when your APM is over 150 you’re out of your mind. APM does not exist in red alert
In warcraft you're excited when you micro 12 individual units In starcraft carpet bombardment with 12 dropships on 12 different screens is still basic(maybe not...) In red alert placing a building is micro
In warcraft even meteors can recognize friends and foes In starcraft a careless psi storm will be more catastrophic to you than your opponent In red alert your units kill each other
In warcraft you always say ‘that’s logical' In starcraft you always say ‘that's possible’ In red alert you always say ‘that’s impossible’
In warcraft you'll learn what's efficiency In starcraft you'll learn what's quantity In red alert you’ll learn what’s ranking
In warcraft you'll learn the importance of level ups In starcraft you'll learn the importance of economy In red alert you’ll learn the importance of a huge army
In warcraft you learn how to battle In starcraft you learn how to wage war In red alert you learn how to follow the instruction booklet
In warcraft all maps are land based up till now In starcraft there're island maps ever since WCG2001 In red alert you realize the map never changes
In warcraft you'll find out that there're a couple completely useless units in the game In starcraft you'll find out that every unit pose an importance in certain strategies In red alert you’ll find out that every unit are completely useless apart from the few exceptions
Warcraft is a test of your micro skill Starcraft is a test of your brain and hand Red alert is a test of your patience
Strategies in warcraft changes according to the latest patch Strategies in starcraft changes according to the pros Strategies in red alert are ambushes
Warcraft plays you around You play Starcraft Westwood plays you and red alert around
In warcraft you say the word imbalance and everyone start debating on race, hero and units In starcraft you say the word imbalance and everyone disagree in general In red alert you say the word imbalance and you’re in the wrong discussion—every nation is the same.
Someone says Warcraft is crap and you will get pissed and start fighting Someone says Starcraft is crap and you will cast a sideward glance and ignore them Someone says red alert is crap and you will get pissed but still agree
Play warcraft long enough and you'll find out that it's a great game. Play starcraft long enough and you'll realize that starcraft is more than just a game. Play red alert long enough and you’ll think a good company is more important than a good game.
Play warcraft long enough and you’re thinking about what a fun game warcraft is. Play starcraft long enough and your daily actions are enhanced by starcraft. Play red alert long enough and your get more and more single minded.
Play warcraft long enough and you know more and more. Play starcraft long enough and you’re asking more and more. Play red alert long enough and you learn more and more rubbish.
Warcraft is the most brilliant game Blizzard ever created. Starcraft is the art created by god via Blizzard for all gamers. Red alert is the reason why Westwood sucked.
From many of your WC > SC statements, it seems you're a fan of games that play the game for you. ie.. units micro-ing themselves for you, basically easy-mode games.
On May 31 2007 17:01 Spartan wrote: From many of your WC > SC statements, it seems you're a fan of games that play the game for you. ie.. units micro-ing themselves for you, basically easy-mode games.
I didn't read the whole post because it was way too long. But the parts that I did read, he seems to be saying SC is a better game than WC because of the fact that in SC, most of the actions are not automatic like in WC.
"In red alert you build a shit load of defense at your front door, the back door and the interior of your base, and then you tell off your opponent for copying your base pattern."
Play warcraft long enough and you'll find out that it's a great game. Play starcraft long enough and you'll realize that starcraft is more than just a game. Play red alert long enough and you’ll think a good company is more important than a good game.
After playing this game for so long, I for one seem to have taken this for granted. It is so true how perfect this game really is. Thanks for this write up, it was a lot of fun to read.
On May 31 2007 17:01 Spartan wrote: From many of your WC > SC statements, it seems you're a fan of games that play the game for you. ie.. units micro-ing themselves for you, basically easy-mode games.
I didn't read the whole post because it was way too long. But the parts that I did read, he seems to be saying SC is a better game than WC because of the fact that in SC, most of the actions are not automatic like in WC.
It seemed to me that he kept going back and forth. But whatever D:
In warcraft no matter how far you're from your base you can still return and save it in ten seconds(teleport) In starcraft your army can be in the east side of your base and yet your west portion still gets wiped out. In red alert, pay attention to your ore miners
In warcraft when your APM is over 150 you'll get bored that you start setting rally points In starcraft when your APM is over 150 you'll be able to execute the most basic commands In red alert when your APM is over 150 you’re out of your mind. APM does not exist in red alert
can't say that i agree with all of those statements but i sure as hell can say that a whole bunch of them are SO true... on another note, i haven't really been following WCG and i was just wondering if red alert ever made it as one of the games in WCG...??
Red Alert was at least better than those Age of empire games. If Red alert had one good thing going for it vs Starcraft, I'd have to say Tanya>Kerrigan.
hahaha thanks for sharing! as crappy a multi player experience the cnc games are, few games come close to it in creating a single player experience. i loved the immersive cinematics, they really made me feel like i was a general, part of a game universe. (then again, i was about 8 or so, so i'd believe anything)
Heh, agreed. heros are too powerful in war3, why make units?
NE dude: "The thousand archers of the elven empire descend upon you, our arrows will blot out the sun." UD dude: *coil* *nova* *impale* NE dude: "gg"
To be fair, I think war3 has a lot of potential to be entertaining. There are still many aspects of the game that people haven't explored yet. It doesn't really matter anymore though. Blizzard pretty much sealed the deal on war3's fate as an e-sport when they announced SC2. Poor war3 - dark ritualed by its own Lich, so to speak.
Just got linked to this post from GameReplays.org. I think you forgot one.
In WarCraft, the community arguing how great the game is are playing Dota. In Starcraft, the community arguing how great the game is are analyzing replays and discussing live television matches of the best StarCraft players. In Red Alert, the community arguing how great the game is have all disappeared and are attempting to ruin the next RTS with their inexperienced opinions.
Aaah a long nice read. Nodded alot of times to how true it was. I guess a bunch of them can be argued but still. And since I've played all of the games I got a tuch of nostalgia too. Was a loong time since I last tuched a game in the C&C series. Lots of fun and memories with all of them. Most fun and friends from starcraft.
On February 11 2009 10:37 arb wrote: I dont get whats wrong with REd Alert..
For starters, it has ridiculously imbalanced units.
A prism tank can destroy a building in 3-4 shots from a screen away, what the fuck.
Yeah but some games you don't play for balance. It's fun just blowing things up! Kind of like those silly UMS that you know would suck if they were played competitively.
I just remember plain RA at my friend's house. Mass MIGs was amazing. I also had a thing for tesla coils.
On February 11 2009 13:55 FragKrag wrote: Who didn't have a thing for Tesla coils? Those things were fucking badass.
Quoted for fucking truth.
I admit, Starcraft is, holistically, a completely different league than RA (1, 2, and 3). But goddamit, sometimes you just have to embrace the awesomeness that is RA. Like people melting into green humanoids. And dogs and cows melting into green humanoids. And massive explosions that made the whole game lag <3
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