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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-19 12:50:20
June 19 2018 12:47 GMT
#141
On June 19 2018 18:12 PVJ wrote:
There's a threshold though where more starcraft won't mean more spectacular games but the opposite. Especially since most ex-pros don't have a rigorous training schedule anymore so it'll have to be seen if they have it in them to make necessary preparations.


based on what?

i dont think so players will play more strategic &mind games if someone pulls a 4 pool vs flash (remember zero v flash )
that is pretty spectaculair.
(edit in post kespa ive seen plenty of times in ssl & asl that specific map builds & cheeses are still prepaired ) last one was shine with his bag of builds
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-19 18:51:58
June 19 2018 12:50 GMT
#142
On June 19 2018 07:22 Cryoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2018 07:02 darktreb wrote:
On June 19 2018 05:45 NoS-Craig wrote:
Bo7 seems way to much for Brood war. I would never go past 5 matches for a brood war match. Some BW matches can go for a very long time.

Best of Five is the way to go. Has worked well for ASL so far.


Still amazed every time BW fans off-hand dismiss something just because it's different. BW is default dead (and I say this as someone who loves the game as much as anyone). We should embrace all reasonable experiments! The potential reward of stumbling upon something that revitalizes interest vastly outweighs the risk. Who knows, maybe something interesting happens in a BO7 context (like a super reverse sweep) that creates a bunch of positive press? BO7 is far from the craziest thing the scene should be trying.

Even for those saying "imagine TvT BO7" -- ever watched a triple overtime game in the NBA? It's not pretty but has its own charm once in awhile. Plus, modern TvT is usually extremely dynamic and action packed.

More games, more types of crazy maps (especially since players are no longer dependent on league performance to make money, so balance is less important), more experiments, more Brood War of all kinds, are all good things.

Maybe learn your history before dismissing BW fans. It is not that we don't like it because it is different but because we already had that experiment in the old pro days and also in the Sonic days and it always got rolled back because the cons simply outweigh the pros.


I've been watching since 2006. I never watched or played any SC2. I remember matches like Larva vs Killer bo7 Sonic finals. But keep making assumptions, please.

Yes I wouldn't choose bo7 by default, but the amount of complaining about this one thing is excessive.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
June 19 2018 12:56 GMT
#143
On June 19 2018 07:02 darktreb wrote:


Yes I wouldn't choose bo7 by default, but the amount I'd complaining about this one thing is excessive.


totally agree besides i cant rememer exactly but i think osl finals used to be bo7s? i think its not new in star
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-19 13:12:12
June 19 2018 13:11 GMT
#144
No they're not lol. Before the transition, the last finals that used a Bo7 format was the 2004-2005 YatGK MSL if memory serves me right. (One great finals, GoRush vs NaDa)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
June 19 2018 14:58 GMT
#145
wow, just wow! hyyype
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
HansenZ
Profile Joined September 2017
49 Posts
June 19 2018 17:55 GMT
#146
wow, just wow! hyyype
Kairo
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden184 Posts
June 19 2018 19:57 GMT
#147
Awesome! This is great news! I would like to thank our lord, my mother and Stakka Bo for this joyful news.
Only the insane have strength enough to prosper. Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. Off she rode with a trumpety trump; trump trump trump.<- Sig since before the Don.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway751 Posts
June 19 2018 20:01 GMT
#148
wow, just wow! hyyype
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-19 22:36:21
June 19 2018 22:35 GMT
#149
For the whole Fighting Spirit subject, it'd be nice if they brought back the map while putting a new twist on it, let's Reverse Fighting Spirit where high ground now becomes low ground.

The new maps, especially Third World, was the highlight of the last ASL (even though many hated it), there has to be a breath of fresh air coming into the competitive scene, maps are the best way to shake things up a bit.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
June 19 2018 23:34 GMT
#150
The only reason Third World, Transistor, and Sparkle made it into the ASL was to prevent Flash from winning his 4th ASL in a row. I reckon similar measures might need to be taken down the line, but having standard maps for a change is good.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
June 20 2018 05:15 GMT
#151
On June 20 2018 07:35 lepape wrote:
For the whole Fighting Spirit subject, it'd be nice if they brought back the map while putting a new twist on it, let's Reverse Fighting Spirit where high ground now becomes low ground.

The new maps, especially Third World, was the highlight of the last ASL (even though many hated it), there has to be a breath of fresh air coming into the competitive scene, maps are the best way to shake things up a bit.


sure i think the maps where highly creative and even fun (however if you watched every late game T v P on transister & thirdworld of Flash practice matchs you can come up with only one conclusion it it total horror for Terrans carriers are unstoppable duo to the layouts on the semi- island map you did have to start splitting youre army up using dropships just to be able to attack on the other side of the map on transister you would have the hardest time to get a decent attack angle bcause of th bottlenecks and highgrounds (you just cant get close enough) and than you add arbiter & recall stasis in the mix on third world ... that main choke its nearly impossible to move up the choke since only 1 unit can fit through it at the time i can go on and on about the uphill battles terrans would face in late game.

in short those are broken maps. and have no place to stay around unless as said before you want to get terrans kicked out of tournaments that was the design.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
June 20 2018 11:52 GMT
#152
wow, just wow! hyyype
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
June 20 2018 16:08 GMT
#153
yeah what that guy said
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 21 2018 15:03 GMT
#154
The map pool is looking pretty Terran favoured, boys
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1013 Posts
June 21 2018 17:25 GMT
#155
So happy to see more BW. Thanks blizz <3

Map pool is pretty meh though.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 17:38:05
June 21 2018 17:35 GMT
#156
Where are you guys seeing the map pool? Is it just the same as what's on battle.net's ladder right now?
Edit: nevermind, found it
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
June 21 2018 17:37 GMT
#157
Stats and Innovation (Bogus) is apparently practicing for it too
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
June 21 2018 18:52 GMT
#158
Poll: Which finals format do you like better?

(Vote): Best of 7
(Vote): Best of 5


Poll: Should Fighting Spirit remain in the map pool?

(Vote): Absofuckinglutely
(Vote): No way Jose

6 trillion
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
June 21 2018 20:09 GMT
#159
On June 22 2018 02:37 tanngard wrote:
Stats and Innovation (Bogus) is apparently practicing for it too



...Fantasy ?? any word

damnit what a rough time it is if youre a fan of fantasy in bw era
a bit can be explained why he didn choice bw is also besides sc2 ''real'' proscene he was asked about his opinion on modern bw & streaming quote:'' he was not confident that hr could achieve his best form as it was in 2012''
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 20:15:01
June 21 2018 20:11 GMT
#160
On June 22 2018 02:37 tanngard wrote:
Stats and Innovation (Bogus) is apparently practicing for it too


On June 22 2018 05:09 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 02:37 tanngard wrote:
Stats and Innovation (Bogus) is apparently practicing for it too



...Fantasy ?? any word

damnit what a rough time it is if youre a fan of fantasy in bw era
a bit can be explained why he didn choice bw is also besides sc2 ''real'' proscene he was asked about his opinion on modern bw & streaming quote:'' he was not confident that hr could achieve his best form as it was in 2012''


Innovation won't be in korea for the offline qualifiers, same for fantasy. They are both competing at hsc:
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