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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
June 17 2018 20:16 GMT
#121
On June 18 2018 05:09 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 00:38 sntct wrote:
Blizzard, please take Fighting Spirit and Circuit Breaker out of the map pool, and replace them with other maps. Boring. Viewers do not need to see another 10,000 games on these maps. Thanks.

Yeah, thats why Fighting Spirit fills up the entire custom game list, because people are just sick of this map


Keeping Fighting Spirit around forever is going to stunt the meta at the pro level. It's good that it's going from there, but it is a good map to practice on.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
June 17 2018 20:28 GMT
#122
ah, so round of 16 and beyond does not have the map pool established as of yet right?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
June 17 2018 23:51 GMT
#123
On June 18 2018 00:38 sntct wrote:
Blizzard, please take Fighting Spirit and Circuit Breaker out of the map pool, and replace them with other maps. Boring. Viewers do not need to see another 10,000 games on these maps. Thanks.


actually quite the opposite seeing flash kicked out of ASL on solely the map pool (transister and third world) on transister he made an agressive play to avoid late game pvt cause its litterly #$%! on that map..
the maps where fun but designed to keep flash out of the finals and other terrans didn make it far aswell
i would love to see some non crazy more balanced maps and sparkle can was fun for a bit but really no zerg wants to ever play on it again.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 18 2018 00:19 GMT
#124
On June 18 2018 05:09 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2018 00:38 sntct wrote:
Blizzard, please take Fighting Spirit and Circuit Breaker out of the map pool, and replace them with other maps. Boring. Viewers do not need to see another 10,000 games on these maps. Thanks.

Yeah, thats why Fighting Spirit fills up the entire custom game list, because people are just sick of this map

Playing on it and watching pros play on it can be two separate things lol.

Imagine Bo7 TvT lol

Looking forward to this though.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
June 18 2018 18:20 GMT
#125
very late atonement for their sins by blizzard. but still great news. HYPE !
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3122 Posts
June 18 2018 20:45 GMT
#126
Bo7 seems way to much for Brood war. I would never go past 5 matches for a brood war match. Some BW matches can go for a very long time.

Best of Five is the way to go. Has worked well for ASL so far.
Artosis loves Starcraft
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
June 18 2018 22:02 GMT
#127
On June 19 2018 05:45 NoS-Craig wrote:
Bo7 seems way to much for Brood war. I would never go past 5 matches for a brood war match. Some BW matches can go for a very long time.

Best of Five is the way to go. Has worked well for ASL so far.


Still amazed every time BW fans off-hand dismiss something just because it's different. BW is default dead (and I say this as someone who loves the game as much as anyone). We should embrace all reasonable experiments! The potential reward of stumbling upon something that revitalizes interest vastly outweighs the risk. Who knows, maybe something interesting happens in a BO7 context (like a super reverse sweep) that creates a bunch of positive press? BO7 is far from the craziest thing the scene should be trying.

Even for those saying "imagine TvT BO7" -- ever watched a triple overtime game in the NBA? It's not pretty but has its own charm once in awhile. Plus, modern TvT is usually extremely dynamic and action packed.

More games, more types of crazy maps (especially since players are no longer dependent on league performance to make money, so balance is less important), more experiments, more Brood War of all kinds, are all good things.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
June 18 2018 22:22 GMT
#128
On June 19 2018 07:02 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2018 05:45 NoS-Craig wrote:
Bo7 seems way to much for Brood war. I would never go past 5 matches for a brood war match. Some BW matches can go for a very long time.

Best of Five is the way to go. Has worked well for ASL so far.


Still amazed every time BW fans off-hand dismiss something just because it's different. BW is default dead (and I say this as someone who loves the game as much as anyone). We should embrace all reasonable experiments! The potential reward of stumbling upon something that revitalizes interest vastly outweighs the risk. Who knows, maybe something interesting happens in a BO7 context (like a super reverse sweep) that creates a bunch of positive press? BO7 is far from the craziest thing the scene should be trying.

Even for those saying "imagine TvT BO7" -- ever watched a triple overtime game in the NBA? It's not pretty but has its own charm once in awhile. Plus, modern TvT is usually extremely dynamic and action packed.

More games, more types of crazy maps (especially since players are no longer dependent on league performance to make money, so balance is less important), more experiments, more Brood War of all kinds, are all good things.

Maybe learn your history before dismissing BW fans. It is not that we don't like it because it is different but because we already had that experiment in the old pro days and also in the Sonic days and it always got rolled back because the cons simply outweigh the pros.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
June 18 2018 22:55 GMT
#129
i think b07 gives room for some cheezy plays, in a bo5 you pretty much have 0 room for error if you drop a game trying a cheeze
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
June 19 2018 02:16 GMT
#130
This says that everyone can enter. that means Savior can participate in this league. am I right?
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
June 19 2018 02:41 GMT
#131
Thank you Blizzard for making best of 7 semis and finals. I have been wanting to see best of 7 series for important matches for a while. Very excited to see this.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
June 19 2018 02:45 GMT
#132
On June 19 2018 11:16 MymSlorm wrote:
This says that everyone can enter. that means Savior can participate in this league. am I right?


No. There’s zero chance Blizz will let match fixers play in this.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
June 19 2018 02:55 GMT
#133
On June 19 2018 11:16 MymSlorm wrote:
This says that everyone can enter. that means Savior can participate in this league. am I right?

From official rules:

3.3 (b) Individuals who were involved in eSports match fixing incidents, or has history of being charged
with illegal sports betting incidents cannot participate in KSL Online Qualifiers.

ppp
MymSlorm
Profile Joined May 2017
Chile187 Posts
June 19 2018 04:01 GMT
#134
ahhh. what a bummer. Well Savior would have been destroyed anyway, Shinee easily defeated him 3-0 in a Chinese Starcraft tournament
"There will always be a new generation of youth, they will be more beautiful, more vigorous, and they shall inspire greater hope for the future in the hearts of the living"
ZealotChileno
Profile Joined June 2018
Chile6 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-19 04:19:04
June 19 2018 04:16 GMT
#135
This is really awsome, BW is making a big come back.
My life for BW
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 19 2018 04:43 GMT
#136
A triple overtime in the NBA is not something you go in expecting it to happen though. The time duration part of the analogy is good but for it to fit you need to have a set number of overtimes to play; like there are at least 4 games in a Bo7 series.

That said, I didn't say I don't want Bo7, in fact I even said I was looking forward to it (even though I prefer a Bo5 series.)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
June 19 2018 04:54 GMT
#137
BO7 will present new opportunities for series strategy, endurance might become a factor. I think we'll be seeing more cheese in opening matches, for instance.
Moridin
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria165 Posts
June 19 2018 07:39 GMT
#138
I love being BO7: more starcraft, more spectacular games.
It's about time.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 19 2018 09:12 GMT
#139
There's a threshold though where more starcraft won't mean more spectacular games but the opposite. Especially since most ex-pros don't have a rigorous training schedule anymore so it'll have to be seen if they have it in them to make necessary preparations.
The heart's eternal vow
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
June 19 2018 09:35 GMT
#140
Now FlaSh can start trying again lol
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