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I'm sure many know this and could already be doing this (I know EonZerg and few others are doing it) but thought it might make sense to broadcast it.
Get a VPN if you're tired of long queue times (or if you just want to get crushed by Koreans). It seems this is most prevalent at 2100++ MMR. Not all VPNs are created equally. I am currently using a paid service and it works well (check URL at bottom for a full, comprehensive list of rated services). There are free ones out there, too, and if you find luck in using those, that's great. If you're looking into the free route, look into OpenVPN and find a config file for it.
I'm getting games vs. koreans in 20 seconds or less, and able to play on TR12-16; sometimes I've gotten TR20. It is a VPN server in Korea. Yes, I lose a lot more now, but it's worth it to practice against the current Korean meta + not wait 1000 seconds. My hope is that using a VPN is a short-term "bandaid fix" and my fingers are crossed that Blizzard fixes the underlying queue issue. They recently released a patch that allegedly tries to pair you with larger regional areas after 180 seconds ... does not work well.
Small tip: If you use a VPN and then also set your region to Asia in the blizzard app before you launch SC, that seems to help for some reason.
There's tons of other VPN services out there. Do your research. It also depends on your region.
For instance, I am on the East coast of the USA. I'm further from Korea than someone in California ... yet, I am still able to do this. Someone in California will have slightly better success due to closer geographic placement to Korea. I would imagine folks in Europe would have good success too as I've seen from others. Also, keep in mind, a VPN does NOT fix inherent bandwidth issues you may already have, etc. This is why I said do your research, I'd rather not waste time explaining the technicalities of networking here.
Full transparency -- It's NOT perfect. Sometimes it will disconnect, sometimes it won't be 20 second queue, etc. But for the most part, I can say, it's quite good for me (... could easily be horrible for someone else based on their location, bandwidth, routing, etc).
You could also get creative and maybe try a server in Japan or China, too. I'm sure that would pair you against koreans quickly.
Here's a doc I used for some research: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L72gHJ5bTq0Djljz0P-NCAaURrXwsR1MsLpVmAt3bwg/export?format=xlsx
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well the vpn im using with dewalt and some others is not just made to match with koreans but to reduce the latency and play tr16 tr20 games,so even if blizzard team change the mm again to match koreans i will keep using it.like i did in the past on 1.16 fish server.
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Sweet, will try it out after work!
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any vpn will reduce your waiting time, but for increased TR you'll have to get a vpn with private data routs,like f.e wtfast (if i'm not mistaken).
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Can someone tell me which vpn service used specifically ? Caused I tried several(paid ones) and they did reduce queue time but lags really bad in game
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vpn is a godsgift for foreign competitive BW
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You also need to take into account your download/upload. If you already have a bad connection getting a VPN isn't going to fix it.
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SC:R now only $9.99 a month so you can actually play ladder.
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On March 30 2018 03:47 SCC-Faust wrote:
SC:R now only $9.99 a month so you can actually play ladder.
Delete that before blizz sees it.
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Kinda ridiculous since Matchmaking should be doing this for us in first place, instead of being forced to use vpn...
I am USW floating arou 1700-1800 MMR and que times are getting longer and longer, and meeting same people 3-4 times in row is very common occurrence. I no longer get koreans from Korea at all... just korean americans in california if i meet any koreans.
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On March 30 2018 05:59 jinjin5000 wrote:
Kinda ridiculous since Matchmaking should be doing this for us in first place, instead of being forced to use vpn...
I am USW floating arou 1700-1800 MMR and que times are getting longer and longer, and meeting same people 3-4 times in row is very common occurrence. I no longer get koreans from Korea at all... just korean americans in california if i meet any koreans.
Yeah, Matchmaking should match people across continents. Great idea. Especially in a p2p game
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Shit, what kind of VPN should we be using? Link!
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On March 30 2018 06:19 10dla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2018 05:59 jinjin5000 wrote:
Kinda ridiculous since Matchmaking should be doing this for us in first place, instead of being forced to use vpn...
I am USW floating arou 1700-1800 MMR and que times are getting longer and longer, and meeting same people 3-4 times in row is very common occurrence. I no longer get koreans from Korea at all... just korean americans in california if i meet any koreans. Yeah, Matchmaking should match people across continents. Great idea. Especially in a p2p game
people getting very limited region based matchmaking, for example, USW isn't getting any koreans despite having fine latency to korea. This leads to very limited playerpool and often playing same people 4-5 times in row and meeting same people over and over again.
European people having to wait 3500sec+ per match due to being in unusual area: north europeans can't even match against people in germany.
Region is too limited right now and its not aggressive enough.
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honestly,im starting to believe they are not working in the game anymore,there is just no way you let MM die like that for more than 1 month,there are a lot of complains in the forums,do you think they checked the koget thread about list of features ? who knows,i guess if someone like Artosis Tasteless or even Nathanias asked them we could get an answer,
do you have lack of information about games,stats etc in game ? check starlogg, community project,do you need match vs koreans ? well get vpn,do you need to have a decent replays folder with nicknames races etc ? well use Crispydrone app.
etc etc,who knows maybe the community and talented people will be motivated enough to bring us what we had in the past ?
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On March 30 2018 07:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
maybe the community and talented people will be motivated enough to bring us what we had in the past ?
It's looking that way
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On March 30 2018 07:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
honestly,im starting to believe they are not working in the game anymore,there is just no way you let MM die like that for more than 1 month,there are a lot of complains in the forums,do you think they checked the koget thread about list of features ? who knows,i guess if someone like Artosis Tasteless or even Nathanias asked them we could get an answer,
do you have lack of information about games,stats etc in game ? check starlogg, community project,do you need match vs koreans ? well get vpn,do you need to have a decent replays folder with nicknames races etc ? well use Crispydrone app.
etc etc,who knows maybe the community and talented people will be motivated enough to bring us what we had in the past ?
Think they are going maintenance mode already. There hasn't been any budget/shift from matchmaking changes, just tweaks from existing one they have tried out 2 months ago, and obviously not working out at all for foreign community.
3 months ago, MMR range was way too wide. Now, its the regional restrictions are way too small.
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On March 30 2018 07:22 jinjin5000 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2018 07:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
honestly,im starting to believe they are not working in the game anymore,there is just no way you let MM die like that for more than 1 month,there are a lot of complains in the forums,do you think they checked the koget thread about list of features ? who knows,i guess if someone like Artosis Tasteless or even Nathanias asked them we could get an answer,
do you have lack of information about games,stats etc in game ? check starlogg, community project,do you need match vs koreans ? well get vpn,do you need to have a decent replays folder with nicknames races etc ? well use Crispydrone app.
etc etc,who knows maybe the community and talented people will be motivated enough to bring us what we had in the past ? Think they are going maintenance mode already. There hasn't been any budget/shift from matchmaking changes, just tweaks from existing one they have tried out 2 months ago, and obviously not working out at all for foreign community. 3 months ago, MMR range was way too wide. Now, its the regional restrictions are way too small.
Yup. And it's sad we have to resort to something like VPN in order to have a good experience.
But, it's one of the better options we have now (in some weird and twisted way). I'd agree that if Blizzard doesn't address this in the next 1-2 months, MMR/ladder will probably really die in the foreign scene, if it's not already. VPN is just a short-term fix, really.
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On March 30 2018 07:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
honestly,im starting to believe they are not working in the game anymore,there is just no way you let MM die like that for more than 1 month,there are a lot of complains in the forums,do you think they checked the koget thread about list of features ? who knows,i guess if someone like Artosis Tasteless or even Nathanias asked them we could get an answer,
do you have lack of information about games,stats etc in game ? check starlogg, community project,do you need match vs koreans ? well get vpn,do you need to have a decent replays folder with nicknames races etc ? well use Crispydrone app.
etc etc,who knows maybe the community and talented people will be motivated enough to bring us what we had in the past ?
I feel the same, they arent working in the game anymore...
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They are working on it im sure, just not for foreigners. Financially we dont matter. We got conned.
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On March 30 2018 07:13 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
honestly,im starting to believe they are not working in the game anymore,there is just no way you let MM die like that for more than 1 month,there are a lot of complains in the forums,do you think they checked the koget thread about list of features ? who knows,i guess if someone like Artosis Tasteless or even Nathanias asked them we could get an answer,
do you have lack of information about games,stats etc in game ? check starlogg, community project,do you need match vs koreans ? well get vpn,do you need to have a decent replays folder with nicknames races etc ? well use Crispydrone app.
etc etc,who knows maybe the community and talented people will be motivated enough to bring us what we had in the past ?
I am trying to be more careful with my criticism because I was really happy with the video logs Grant Davies was doing and how he kept us up to date on what they were working on & what their priorities were. And on top of that, he actively posted in the forums briefly to address some misconceptions we had. I'm still frustrated over missing features and how matchmaking was going, but in my opinion, the fact that the dev team decided to do that for us meant a lot to me and I'm sure most people in the Brood War community appreciated it too.
Unfortunately things got dark. Last dev update was posted 3+ months ago here and I'm not aware of any other updates or messages from the dev team since then. I'm really crossing my fingers for the sc20 event to hear some sort of info.
Also, it is possible what iNcontroL said in the Twitch Rivals thread is somewhat true. I've actually been wracking my brain around after he made the post and figured it must be at the very least be valid in some form. I think it warrants at least some discussion if we're going to talk about possibilities of why we feel left out of the loop. If this is true, I want Blizzard to tell us what we should be doing differently, and list examples of actions that are preventing them from providing tournaments/events/updates to us. We are left to our own volition and we have our own circuit of foreign-hosted events that are funded very large in part from fans of the game and the amount of negativity in these events exist just like any other game, and I'd argue even less. I watch almost every foreign event I can, participate on the forums, participate in Twitch chat, and read the battle.net forums, and I still can't figure out what sort of mistake we're making that is so vile and out of line that it is preventing the same company who made the game for this audience to reconsider any continuation of supporting the scene.
On March 19 2018 15:27 iNcontroL
I can convincingly tell you I am having the hardest time getting Blizzard motivated to do anything for SC:R and a huge part of that is the community is toxic and negative about everything. You want to think I am making that up? Why? What do I get out of making that up? What precedent is there for that? Have I been known to make shit up and talk about it publicly?
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