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dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
August 09 2017 15:55 GMT
#21
On August 10 2017 00:48 orvinreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 18:27 raff100 wrote:
This tweet in particular scared me



Well if both players are lagging then what's the problem? You both get the same handicap.


Because lag destroys execution, tilt players and also tend to make people play different than they would under normal circumstances. Some people are also used to playing under heavy lag, whereas others rarely play laggy games. On top of that you can add that heavy lag is simply painful and takes all the fun away.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
August 09 2017 15:57 GMT
#22
On August 10 2017 00:42 739 wrote:
Mmm.. i wish we had /ping option available in client and during the game. That'll also help tournament holders to verify which player is lagging.

Is that even possible in a P2P game? Shouldn't both players have the same ping?
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
August 09 2017 16:00 GMT
#23
all hail blizzard for their bullcrap
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 09 2017 16:09 GMT
#24
On August 10 2017 00:01 WGT-Baal wrote:
Same here, while my ping on fish is decent (about 200) it seems the actual response in game is sluggish. For some reason it feels much slower than when I play overwatch on the Korean server (from eastern Canada).

the technology simply isn't there yet! what's so hard to understand!?
xD
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 09 2017 16:12 GMT
#25
On August 10 2017 00:16 iloveav wrote:
Money in terms of fixing almost nothing and asking 15 bucks for it

I'd probably pay 15$ even just for not having to fuck with portforwarding ever again.

- then there's beautiful graphics
- functional matchmaking
- adjustable hotkeys

To me, it's 15$ very well spent.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
August 09 2017 16:24 GMT
#26
On August 10 2017 00:48 orvinreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2017 18:27 raff100 wrote:
This tweet in particular scared me https://twitter.com/Retjah/status/893884673419554817


Well if both players are lagging then what's the problem? You both get the same handicap.

?????
Move your arm a bit. Your arm doesnt move. Kiss your loved ones. Doesnt happen.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
August 09 2017 16:33 GMT
#27
Nice move Blizz. I guess i can wait another 6 months to get it cheaper.
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Heyjoray
Profile Joined September 2015
240 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 16:44:59
August 09 2017 16:40 GMT
#28
On August 10 2017 01:33 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Nice move Blizz. I guess i can wait another 6 months to get it cheaper.

Now thats sad. Have you considered FundMe? What kind of ruminate thread is this anyway? Are you guys gonna talk about the 15 for another 10 pages? Do you guys realize that people pay thousands of moneys for CS:GO gloves?
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
August 09 2017 16:40 GMT
#29
It probably won't go on sale. 15$ is generous a price enough.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 17:05:32
August 09 2017 16:57 GMT
#30
On August 10 2017 00:01 WGT-Baal wrote:
Same here, while my ping on fish is decent (about 200) it seems the actual response in game is sluggish. For some reason it feels much slower than when I play overwatch on the Korean server (from eastern Canada).


Very different styles of games engines, the ones that BW and SC2 use add a lot of lag time to actions even before going through ping. If you take a high speed camera and very fast screen you can measure input lag in the 13-20ms range for csgo and overwatch but if you do the same on the starcraft games it's more like 80ms plus ping for a unit response iirc~

That is generally considered to be an acceptable tradeoff for the other advantages of the engine style but it does make it especially bad to play with higher pings or inconsistent connections which increase that delay further
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
August 09 2017 18:09 GMT
#31
On August 10 2017 01:33 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Nice move Blizz. I guess i can wait another 6 months to get it cheaper.


Pathetic lol.

I would prefer regional matchmaking to having lag. I dont think finding a match will be a problem once the game fully releases.
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
August 09 2017 18:29 GMT
#32
I experience more lag in scr compared with 1.16 so I am wondering if blizzard can optimise the engine a bit more....

BW forever!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
August 09 2017 18:32 GMT
#33
The good ol bait and switch!
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JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
August 09 2017 18:45 GMT
#34
Is it even possible to have global matchmaking and not have lag? Is there anything Blizzard can do to mitigate this problem? The reason why Koreans can play with Turn rate up to 16 and not have problems is because 1) close proximity to each other because it is a small country, and 2) their internet infrastructure is better (whatever this means). Idk how much of this is correct.

a source (from 2010...): http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/03/31/broadband.south.korea/index.html
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6781 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 19:18:14
August 09 2017 19:15 GMT
#35
not need to be Einstein,if you lag vs China,Korea,Vietnam 8 years ago u will lag today,it is not blizzard fault,thats how internet works,if you wanna improve your conection to play with koreans,use a good VPN not the first that comes to you for free in Google.how blizzard fix lag to you? well pray the player pool from your country will increase u will play lag less games,but if you wanna play with Lee min CHun from Korea and u are living in Europe dont expect some magic.

also all of you still saying that payin 15$ for MM,is bullshit,Fixed ports,not more 50 launchers,not more crashed img when u open the game,so many new options,new graphics(not Something was asked for)but im happy u will be abble to play this game in modern O.S without troubles.is not perfect atm ok.but 1.16 is not perfect,maybe you think it is.but thats bullsh*t aswell.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 09 2017 19:24 GMT
#36
Global matchmaking/ladder would be nice, but I don't feel like it's very feasible given existing latency issues...

The worst part is that there's no way to ensure that two players on opposite sides of the globe will "meet in a middle" serverwise and "balance" the latency.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1657 Posts
August 09 2017 19:50 GMT
#37
man manald is gonna get rich
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 09 2017 20:11 GMT
#38
On August 10 2017 00:41 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 00:00 Cele wrote:
damn Blizzard, making Matchmaking only available for SC:R to earn more $$. What a cheap move. Didn't we have this platform back in the past where we could play ladder for free, on the maps we preferred? I dimly recall it's name was ICCUp. /sarcasm

which part of your sentence is the /sarcasm for ?


the "dimly recalling it's name as ICCUp" part. I was very active in the ICCUp staff up until the SC:R announcement.
Broodwar for life!
traxamillion
Profile Joined August 2016
104 Posts
August 09 2017 20:14 GMT
#39
Lag makes ZVT even more imbalanced. TERRAN just has to basically mass some BIO and a move to my 3rd or whatever while I can't muta micro properly with lag.

I've never been able to play a turn rate 16 game; it is super slow. Even when playing someone in California from inside california
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 09 2017 20:31 GMT
#40
Try high lat/extra high lat in 16 turn rate. It's amazing even on extra high lat. Honestly 12 turn rate on high lat is sooo much better than 8.
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