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K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
October 30 2017 04:54 GMT
#1061
On October 30 2017 13:29 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.



who are these popular players? Bisu? Jaedong? Thanks for the info!

I cant say anything about that.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 30 2017 05:40 GMT
#1062
On October 30 2017 13:54 K.H.J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 13:29 BigFan wrote:
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.



who are these popular players? Bisu? Jaedong? Thanks for the info!

I cant say anything about that.

you mean there's no info out there or just that you can't say yourself?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 30 2017 05:46 GMT
#1063
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.




Well that's good news in that there isn't a long wait! Sad that means we are going to lose some players though
When I think of something else, something will go here
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3093 Posts
October 30 2017 08:21 GMT
#1064
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.
Artosis loves Starcraft
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
October 30 2017 09:09 GMT
#1065
Clan Insung ladder info:
Protoss
25 Korea InSung.mOvie 3325 Protoss 177 101
114 Korea insung.Horang2. 3062 Protoss 122 65
1941 Korea insung.jum 2455 Protoss 37 4 (shuttle)
Terran
34 Korea Insung.no 3248 Terran 153 69 (ssak)
38 Korea Insung.zobs 3225 Terran 189 106 (skyhigh)
266144 Korea Insung.Xiada 1470 Terran 0 1 (sea)
Zerg
27 Korea insung.byuk 3310 Zerg 136 48 (soulkey)
62623 Korea insung.BaxteR 1702 Zerg 8 2 (killer)
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-30 10:12:38
October 30 2017 10:11 GMT
#1066
On October 30 2017 18:09 sc19980331 wrote:
Clan Insung ladder info:

Terran
266144 Korea Insung.Xiada 1470 Terran 0 1 (sea)

Zerg
62623 Korea insung.BaxteR 1702 Zerg 8 2 (killer)


lol, how on earth did that happen?
I don't believe you.
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
October 30 2017 13:08 GMT
#1067
On October 30 2017 17:21 NoS-Craig wrote:
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.

There is an option to go for the alternative civil service in Korea (as well as in many other countries where the military service is obligatory). So you can still play in the evenings Pros need to consider this
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 30 2017 13:47 GMT
#1068
On October 30 2017 22:08 shall_burn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 17:21 NoS-Craig wrote:
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.

There is an option to go for the alternative civil service in Korea (as well as in many other countries where the military service is obligatory). So you can still play in the evenings Pros need to consider this

You're not allowed to stream though while you're serving.
The heart's eternal vow
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51416 Posts
October 30 2017 14:23 GMT
#1069
On October 30 2017 22:47 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 22:08 shall_burn wrote:
On October 30 2017 17:21 NoS-Craig wrote:
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.

There is an option to go for the alternative civil service in Korea (as well as in many other countries where the military service is obligatory). So you can still play in the evenings Pros need to consider this

You're not allowed to stream though while you're serving.


somehow polt (sc2 pro) got permission to stream, although i don't know the circumstances behind it
Commentator
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
October 30 2017 14:38 GMT
#1070
I've heard Julyzerg and NaDa (maybe others pros?) are going to a StarCraft event this week-end at Jeju Island.
Anyone have more infos about it?
Calendaraka Foxhan
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-30 15:34:06
October 30 2017 15:32 GMT
#1071
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.



Im happy with that hoping to be true, since this ASL is already full of upsets and we know who will be the champion, a new one will cheer all the fans for sure.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10111 Posts
October 30 2017 16:16 GMT
#1072
On October 30 2017 13:29 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.



who are these popular players? Bisu? Jaedong? Thanks for the info!

If I am not mistaken, Korean service must be started (completed?) by the age of 30. This week Bisu will turn 28; if we count by Korean age, I think that will make him 30 in January. I'm not sure if the "rule" above uses normal age or Korean age, but either way the clock is fast running out for Bisu who is a bit older than Jaedong and Flash.

It would be nice if I can get a bit more details on the above issues of started/completed and "normal" age/Korean age for the requirements.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
friendbg
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria576 Posts
October 30 2017 17:48 GMT
#1073
Didn't Bisu already confirm he is going to the militairy after this asl? He even saluted the croud after one of his recent wins.
Why leave today's work for tomorrow, when you can do it the day after
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-30 18:42:15
October 30 2017 18:36 GMT
#1074
On October 30 2017 22:47 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 22:08 shall_burn wrote:
On October 30 2017 17:21 NoS-Craig wrote:
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.

There is an option to go for the alternative civil service in Korea (as well as in many other countries where the military service is obligatory). So you can still play in the evenings Pros need to consider this

You're not allowed to stream though while you're serving.

In most countries, where military service is obligatory, there is also an alternative for pacifists, religious people, or whoever doesn't want to serve due to whatever reason. Alternative service means that instead of wearing combat boots and shooting all day long, you do some usual full-time 9-17 job for the government, e.g. yardman, teacher, attendant, repair worker, carpenter, you name it.
You stay at home instead of living in a barraks (or, if you are sent to some other city, in a hostel, provided by the government).
You have a salary, you have free weekend, holidays, etc. etc., but it's also almost twice as long (1yr9m compared to just 1yr of military in my country).
That's, at least, how it works here, in Russia. I just know that there IS alternative civil service in South Korea, and IIRC one of our forum members is/has been serving alternatively.
And my alternative service begins Summer, 2018.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 30 2017 19:28 GMT
#1075
On October 31 2017 03:36 shall_burn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 22:47 PVJ wrote:
On October 30 2017 22:08 shall_burn wrote:
On October 30 2017 17:21 NoS-Craig wrote:
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.

There is an option to go for the alternative civil service in Korea (as well as in many other countries where the military service is obligatory). So you can still play in the evenings Pros need to consider this

You're not allowed to stream though while you're serving.

In most countries, where military service is obligatory, there is also an alternative for pacifists, religious people, or whoever doesn't want to serve due to whatever reason. Alternative service means that instead of wearing combat boots and shooting all day long, you do some usual full-time 9-17 job for the government, e.g. yardman, teacher, attendant, repair worker, carpenter, you name it.
You stay at home instead of living in a barraks (or, if you are sent to some other city, in a hostel, provided by the government).
You have a salary, you have free weekend, holidays, etc. etc., but it's also almost twice as long (1yr9m compared to just 1yr of military in my country).
That's, at least, how it works here, in Russia. I just know that there IS alternative civil service in South Korea, and IIRC one of our forum members is/has been serving alternatively.
And my alternative service begins Summer, 2018.

Yes, and even from there you aren't allowed to stream. Fantasy is in civil service, he might be playing but he is not allowed to stream. I guess it has to do with something in the military penal code due to security, etc.
The heart's eternal vow
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
October 30 2017 19:38 GMT
#1076
On October 31 2017 04:28 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 03:36 shall_burn wrote:
On October 30 2017 22:47 PVJ wrote:
On October 30 2017 22:08 shall_burn wrote:
On October 30 2017 17:21 NoS-Craig wrote:
They have to do their service at some point. So only a matter of time until we lose some draws for a year or two. We'll have to get behind some new players if BW/ASL is going to continue. I'll keep watching that's for sure.

There is an option to go for the alternative civil service in Korea (as well as in many other countries where the military service is obligatory). So you can still play in the evenings Pros need to consider this

You're not allowed to stream though while you're serving.

In most countries, where military service is obligatory, there is also an alternative for pacifists, religious people, or whoever doesn't want to serve due to whatever reason. Alternative service means that instead of wearing combat boots and shooting all day long, you do some usual full-time 9-17 job for the government, e.g. yardman, teacher, attendant, repair worker, carpenter, you name it.
You stay at home instead of living in a barraks (or, if you are sent to some other city, in a hostel, provided by the government).
You have a salary, you have free weekend, holidays, etc. etc., but it's also almost twice as long (1yr9m compared to just 1yr of military in my country).
That's, at least, how it works here, in Russia. I just know that there IS alternative civil service in South Korea, and IIRC one of our forum members is/has been serving alternatively.
And my alternative service begins Summer, 2018.

Yes, and even from there you aren't allowed to stream. Fantasy is in civil service, he might be playing but he is not allowed to stream. I guess it has to do with something in the military penal code due to security, etc.

Oh! Thanks for clarifying. No streams is wierd, though
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 30 2017 21:34 GMT
#1077
On October 31 2017 01:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2017 13:29 BigFan wrote:
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.



who are these popular players? Bisu? Jaedong? Thanks for the info!

If I am not mistaken, Korean service must be started (completed?) by the age of 30. This week Bisu will turn 28; if we count by Korean age, I think that will make him 30 in January. I'm not sure if the "rule" above uses normal age or Korean age, but either way the clock is fast running out for Bisu who is a bit older than Jaedong and Flash.

It would be nice if I can get a bit more details on the above issues of started/completed and "normal" age/Korean age for the requirements.

what would be the point of Korean age if it's not used even in Korea?

If they're using both 'normal' age and Korean age in official matters, depending on circumstances, I'd find it super weird.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 30 2017 22:40 GMT
#1078
On October 28 2017 14:18 JungleTerrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2017 05:49 B-royal wrote:
On October 27 2017 16:08 JungleTerrain wrote:
That's not what I meant, I know about BWAI. I mean like in Dota where Elon Musk's team made an AI that was better than pros and could beat them consistently to the point that people wanted to train against the AI for practice. As in, an actual legit challenge for a pro in a showmatch (vs Stork?). I wasn't specific enough because screw me


Please don't intentionally spread misinformation.

1. the bot isn't consistently beating pro's.
2. it's 1v1 games which don't mean anything in a game like dota
3. the games had special rules/limitations such as no runes, no returning to fountain,...
4. the bot doesn't analyze pixels on the screen nor does it use a keyboard or anything as a form of input. This means it has a significant mechanical advantage.

http://www.wildml.com/2017/08/hype-or-not-some-perspective-on-openais-dota-2-bot/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15000779
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/6t8qvs/openai_bots_were_defeated_atleast_50_times/
https://readwrite.com/2017/08/15/openai-bot-dota2-al1/


If anyone is taking my vague comments on a game I don't even play on a forum that isn't even about that game as a credible source on the topic, that is not my problem. I'm just asking questions, and I actually find the topic interesting since BW is such a different game.

And most of my information comes from this, I don't care to be really accurate on this topic, though.



very awesome!

unfortunately the upcoming man vs ai fight is not against a trained neural network is it?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
October 30 2017 22:48 GMT
#1079
what is that MJ Bot?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10111 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-30 23:24:46
October 30 2017 23:23 GMT
#1080
On October 31 2017 06:34 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 01:16 Jealous wrote:
On October 30 2017 13:29 BigFan wrote:
On October 30 2017 12:56 K.H.J wrote:
info about ASL5

Some popular players will go army in January, so ASL5 will start right after ASL4.



who are these popular players? Bisu? Jaedong? Thanks for the info!

If I am not mistaken, Korean service must be started (completed?) by the age of 30. This week Bisu will turn 28; if we count by Korean age, I think that will make him 30 in January. I'm not sure if the "rule" above uses normal age or Korean age, but either way the clock is fast running out for Bisu who is a bit older than Jaedong and Flash.

It would be nice if I can get a bit more details on the above issues of started/completed and "normal" age/Korean age for the requirements.

what would be the point of Korean age if it's not used even in Korea?

If they're using both 'normal' age and Korean age in official matters, depending on circumstances, I'd find it super weird.

I can completely see how cultural practices may be kept out of official matters; for example, practices such as drinking age and etc. seem like they would be very much affected by people being 2 years older than they are on paper. Bisu turned 2 years old in Korean age when he was 2 months old in biological age, for example. I imagine it would cause a lot of problems for other matters as well. Perhaps a native Korean can clarify here? It's something I've been curious about for a long time.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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