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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:17 Djabanete wrote: No need to put words in someone else's mouth or make so many assumptions about where they're coming from. Nobody has told you how to feel. Merz just posted a personal view that included some reasonable points, such as asking how much profit the licensing fee is being deducted from. "The hefty sum aside, come on guys, Blizzard is a company with shareholders like every other company. Are you expecting them to allow a third party using their intellectual property to no cost at all? Calling them assholes because they are protecting their own interests isn't really fair." Blizzard is free to exercise their right to maximize their profits off their intellectual property, even if it has detrimental effects on competitive Brood War. I can also criticize their actions as someone who cares far more about the health of the Brood War scene than the financial health of Blizzard as a company. Making reasonable points, and inquiring the exact nature of Blizzard's policies is not what I had an issue with. It's the fact that he told me how to react in the face of unfortunate circumstances for the Brood War scene that got me on tilt. Perhaps you should read some of the posts before calling me out on things. | ||
Shinokuki
United States859 Posts
On September 05 2017 23:40 onlystar wrote: . They Will put cb in forsure dont worry "Which isnt as balanced as once believed" F.s is a map that is proven to be balanced yet TLrs have tried the hardest to skew the statistics in in favour of terras in Terran in TvZ pulling stats from a poorly performing and small zerg (overall) pool on afreeca vs a top tier Terran pool dat is always steady in top 5 ranking spon matches in my opinion foreigners are in a tunnelvision they gererly maps that are overplayed are hated by that community and TVZ mech switch is to hard right so we end up by these accusations regularly biased by feelings and opinios unable to make a realistic judgement idk where you gettig this from. Fs is good for T and P while horrible for Z. Late mech switch is easy as hell on fs. Lot of koreans talk about fs being badly balanced | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Here is something relevant: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/community-competition-license.html Someone else said it might be a one time fee? | ||
TT1
Canada9990 Posts
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
As if pointing out how capitalism works would make criticism of that company any less valid. | ||
207aicila
1237 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:08 Jae Zedong wrote: All over the internet, every time someone criticizes a company, there will be a few smug apologists pointing out that companies exist to make a profit. "It's not a charity, guys!" As if pointing out how capitalism works would make criticism of that company any less valid. Yes, it's hilarious. They took an economics 101 course one time in high school and they think they understand everything. Always the same story every time something shady happens in gaming. "Companies exist to make money" etc. But they don't remember literally the next thing that comes after it, which is "and consumers are supposed to exercise their rights to keep companies honest". Stating that companies exist to make money is a truism more or less. Using such statements with the implication "therefore stop complaining" is fundamentally anti-consumer and betrays an ironic and fundamental lack of understanding of economics. No, consumers ARE SUPPOSED TO COMPLAIN, otherwise they will slowly get fucked. That's how the system was envisioned to begin with. But that's the Reddit generation for you, only reading or remembering the first 5 words of anything and then getting up in arms and over it to prove how smart they are. | ||
tub74557
China25 Posts
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A.Alm
Sweden508 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:58 tub74557 wrote: Hey guys, you can choose to play another game like League of Legends where team spot fee is $1.8M, or Dota 2 where Valve takes 75% of tournament gross revenue. And that's a good thing, or what? Other companies do bad stuff -> every company has to do the same? "Hey stop using child labor" -> "But x, y and z uses child labor, get over it". | ||
tub74557
China25 Posts
On September 07 2017 02:04 A.Alm wrote: And that's a good thing, or what? Other companies do bad stuff -> every company has to do the same? "Hey stop using child labor" -> "But x, y and z uses child labor, get over it". That's neither a good thing or bad thing, that's just a thing, and a fact. Market talks. If that's your logic, I would say a $300 cellphone is a bad thing, I think it only worths $30. | ||
A.Alm
Sweden508 Posts
On September 07 2017 02:10 tub74557 wrote: That's neither a good thing or bad thing, that's just a thing, and a fact. Market talks. If that's your logic, I would say a $300 cellphone is a bad thing, I think it only worths $30. Exactly, it's just a fact. You're just explaining capitalism, and as a customer to this game, you're on the wrong side of it. Once again, just because you have facts that imply greed, doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it. You can chose not to buy a phone. Dedicated and planned SC tournaments (ASL, etc) can't choose not to pay the fee, or tell their employees to play another game. It's apples and oranges. Do you compare healthcare and car insurance as-well? I bet you do. | ||
NasKe_
Brazil570 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:58 tub74557 wrote: Hey guys, you can choose to play another game like League of Legends where team spot fee is $1.8M, or Dota 2 where Valve takes 75% of tournament gross revenue. Valve takes 100% of the sales, than gives 25% back as prize pool. Blizzard takes 100% and looks for other way to profit from the scene. | ||
Pippah
Denmark353 Posts
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:58 tub74557 wrote: Hey guys, you can choose to play another game like League of Legends where team spot fee is $1.8M, or Dota 2 where Valve takes 75% of tournament gross revenue. It's not a good comparison because those are very homegrown e-sports in which the dev has been by far the biggest player in the scene's growth and promotion. Blizzard's relationship to the Korean BW scene is nothing like that. You're also talking about tournaments with prize pools in the multiple millions. | ||
raff100
498 Posts
On September 07 2017 01:58 tub74557 wrote: Hey guys, you can choose to play another game like League of Legends where team spot fee is $1.8M, or Dota 2 where Valve takes 75% of tournament gross revenue. If you imply that Valve takes 75% of the compendium sales, it has nothing to do with the "fee" to organize a BW event. | ||
Levque
88 Posts
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[nkc]moon
30 Posts
Or even if it's confirmed ffs | ||
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