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Qikz
United Kingdom12021 Posts
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On September 07 2017 04:54 [nkc]moon wrote: Jesus Christ. You guys don't know what type of fee it is and whether or not it's reoccuring or the frequency of the fee and people are crying. Or even if it's confirmed ffs Are you paid by Blizzard? | ||
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Lorch
Germany3666 Posts
Esports is free marketing for any developers game. I personally would have never bought countless games if it wasn't for their competitive scenes. And yet they expect 3rd parties to pay them this much to run tournaments? Even if it's a yearly sum, even if it includes some benefits or if the actual sum is lower, this is still unbelievable. Why would you charge people to advertise your game? No one in esports (outside of these ridiculously large prize pools on dev run events) is getting rich. Most are just happy to be able to pay the bills while working in esports (caster, player, event org etc.). And yet instead of being happy that there are so many people so passionate about their game, willing to dedicate their lifes to the game, they try to cash in instead of helping out. Imo blizz should be paying orgs to run tourneys, not the other way around. I almost wish eSports would shrink again, because honestly I'd rather have no dev support than all of them trying to cash in on eSports. | ||
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outscar
2828 Posts
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
I can't say I have been pleased with Blizz recently when it comes to esports stuff. They are willing to subsidize games with worse viewership it seems. | ||
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ortseam
996 Posts
On September 07 2017 06:08 Lorch wrote: How can people honestly defend this. And yes riot and valve are also to blame here, doesn't mean blizzard behaviour is any less shitty. I think the difference here is that riot and valve have actually contributed or at least been involved with the esports scenes of their games. Blizzard never had to do anything with BW esports. | ||
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[nkc]moon
30 Posts
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
They should get Artosis to do the SCV voice over, Tasteless to do the firebat, Day9 to do siege tank, and so on. | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
I definitely think that you are. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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tub74557
China25 Posts
On September 07 2017 04:12 raff100 wrote: If you imply that Valve takes 75% of the compendium sales, it has nothing to do with the "fee" to organize a BW event. I'm not talking about TI compendium, I'm talking about payment for every single tournament. 14.1 Payment. Within thirty (30) days after the end of the calendar month in which a Tournament is complete, Valve shall pay to Licensee twenty-five percent (25%) of the Adjusted Gross Revenue actually received by Valve for the Tournament. | ||
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
On September 07 2017 07:05 BigFan wrote: ^ I think there are issues with it even if they aren't using blizzard's assets because they are copying everything otherwise. I'm sure someone with more knowledge can chime in. What about ReactOS? They are copying pretty much everything about Windows except the code and the assets. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://www.reactos.org/sites/default/files/winzip.png) https://www.reactos.org/wiki/FAQ#Is_ReactOS_legal.3F | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
Yes, anyone who doesn't immediately freak out at unconfirmed rumors is paid by Blizzard. grow up lol | ||
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Bijan
United States286 Posts
1) So many details are unknown or unconfirmed. 2) I have no idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to negotiating this type of fee and I'm sure that most people here don't either. 3) The ASL is happening, right? That means Afreeca is willing to pay this and thinks they will still make enough of a profit. If this news came out after we had heard of the ASL's cancellation then of course we should all be screaming towards the heavens, but we're still getting the tournament. That said, I know Blizzard has done wrong by this community in the past and I'm not saying we should forget that. | ||
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lestye
United States4133 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:27 Jae Zedong wrote: Anyone know what Blizzard's fees for SC2 tournaments are, and when they were put in place? idk if its true or not, but i remember on /r/starcraft there was rumors the reason why MLG dropped starcraft is because of of tournament license fees, rob simpson said that was untrue: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/pxnz2/lantastic_gaming_incident/c3t399s/ That being said, I'm pretty sure Blizzard pays orgs to host most SC2 events. In worth nothing that every major game company requires tournament licenses, regardless if theres a fee or not (Valve, Blizzard, Riot) | ||
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franzji
United States580 Posts
also I still can't believe buying team spots exists in esports. Really ruins the magic of me being a fan of a team. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On September 07 2017 04:59 Qikz wrote: Can we please wait for official confirmation before over-reacting. Thanks! What are you hoping for exactly? Blizzard to print you a copy of their contract with Afreeca? Samwise to draw a Terran marine giving you the finger on official Blizzard stationery? | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On September 07 2017 11:34 Lachrymose wrote: What are you hoping for exactly? Blizzard to print you a copy of their contract with Afreeca? Samwise to draw a Terran marine giving you the finger on official Blizzard stationery? lol. I tend to agree. I highly doubt Blizzard will just state how much they are taking so the information we have atm might be the best we got. I do hope the 88k is exaggerated but I don't personally believe that Blizzard is all that concerned for the BW scene considering past conduct. | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On September 07 2017 07:37 Little-Chimp wrote: Yes, anyone who doesn't immediately freak out at unconfirmed rumors is paid by Blizzard. grow up lol Now I know that you are bot. | ||
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sgt_cr
Costa Rica95 Posts
On September 07 2017 07:08 tub74557 wrote: I'm not talking about TI compendium, I'm talking about payment for every single tournament. 14.1 Payment. Within thirty (30) days after the end of the calendar month in which a Tournament is complete, Valve shall pay to Licensee twenty-five percent (25%) of the Adjusted Gross Revenue actually received by Valve for the Tournament. Im not sure you got your data correct, this is not for any tournament of dota2 that you want to host, I believe this rule was done when you are creating the ticket of the tournament, when this ticket is selling at a fixed price lets say $5, the revenue from that is being payed to the host of the tournament. This ticket is being sold in Valve / Steam has a ingame purchase, they use Valve infrastructure to sell and advertise and they also use Valve infrastructure to keep track of games, reps, obs mode, etc. That does not means that if the tournament is receiving 100k from sponsors, they need to pay 75% of that revenue to Valve. | ||
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