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MarcoJ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany146 Posts
June 07 2018 21:50 GMT
#2081
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.


what is insane to me is that you would add a negative clause. Why not say if you win X times get Y money. Its feels way better imo.
It's so easy to laugh, It's so easy to hate, It takes guts to be gentle and kind.
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
606 Posts
June 07 2018 23:00 GMT
#2082
its a rude reminder that 'they' consider his starpower to come from his win percentage
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10516 Posts
June 07 2018 23:17 GMT
#2083
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.

he ended up meeting that clause though right?
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 23:54:09
June 07 2018 23:54 GMT
#2084
sounds like the kind of clause letmelose would design.
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina246 Posts
June 08 2018 00:24 GMT
#2085
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.


I dont get it, is this a present contract we are talking about? Flash is under contract with KT nowadays?
40 wins from when to when?

This data seems to be lacking a lot of context or maybe I just missed something, can someone explain a little further please?
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 00:31:01
June 08 2018 00:29 GMT
#2086
On June 08 2018 09:24 LocoBolon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.


I dont get it, is this a present contract we are talking about? Flash is under contract with KT nowadays?
40 wins from when to when?

This data seems to be lacking a lot of context or maybe I just missed something, can someone explain a little further please?


Almost certainly this contract was from Flash's proleague days. I did not however find when this clause was in effect.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-09 02:32:38
June 08 2018 00:59 GMT
#2087
On June 08 2018 08:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.

he ended up meeting that clause though right?


Yes, but it doesn't stop it from being a ridiculous threshold.

Even the threshold of 40 ProLeague victories was a standard that no player apart from Flash and Jaedong managed to rise above without fail, starting from the 2008/2009 ProLeague season to 2010/2011 ProLeague season. After that it was mathmatically impossible for a player to even play 40 times during a single season.

On June 08 2018 09:24 LocoBolon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.


I dont get it, is this a present contract we are talking about? Flash is under contract with KT nowadays?
40 wins from when to when?

This data seems to be lacking a lot of context or maybe I just missed something, can someone explain a little further please?


There was a period in history (mid-2008 to mid-2011) when the very best performing ProLeague players won over 40 ProLeague matches over the course of a year long season. The circumstances allowing for such an extensive ProLeague scheduling were never found before or since.

From mid-2008 to mid-2011 (a time-frame lasting roughly three years), I will post the top five performing players in terms of total number of ProLeague victories per season (including the post-season games):

Shinhan 2008/2009 ProLeague

1. Jaedong: 63 wins
2. Bisu: 55 wins
3. Flash: 54 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
4. Leta: 49 wins
5. Calm: 42 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories

Shinhan 2009/2010 ProLeague

1. Flash: 61 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
2. Jaedong: 52 wins
3. Light: 49 wins
4. FanTaSy: 46 wins
5. Leta: 43 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories

Shinhan 2010/2011 ProLeague

1. Bisu: 66 wins
2. Flash: 60 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
3. Jaedong: 51 wins
4. Stats: 48 wins
5. ZerO: 44 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories

All the other ProLeague seasons in history basically had the schedule arranged in a manner that made it basically impossible for players to win over 40 ProLeague matches.
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
June 08 2018 12:59 GMT
#2088
On June 08 2018 09:59 Letmelose wrote:
Shinhan 2008/2009 ProLeague

1. Jaedong: 63 wins
2. Bisu: 55 wins
3. Flash: 54 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
4. Leta: 49 wins
5. Calm: 42 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories



Holy crap how did Calm get 42 wins. I definitely do not remember that wow.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 13:23:13
June 08 2018 13:21 GMT
#2089
Apologizes. I didn't think the context that it was past was necessary, considering current state of the scene. I don't think exact time period is mentioned? Ironic Flash managed to meet those goals anyway, but some of these stories about former pro-scene coming out after players started streaming is ridiculous. I knew the condition was bad, but not that awful.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina246 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 20:49:29
June 10 2018 20:48 GMT
#2090
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2018 09:59 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 08:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.

he ended up meeting that clause though right?


Yes, but it doesn't stop it from being a ridiculous threshold.

Even the threshold of 40 ProLeague victories was a standard that no player apart from Flash and Jaedong managed to rise above without fail, starting from the 2008/2009 ProLeague season to 2010/2011 ProLeague season. After that it was mathmatically impossible for a player to even play 40 times during a single season.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2018 09:24 LocoBolon wrote:
On June 08 2018 05:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
https://m.ygosu.com/board/st/1609268/?searcht=&search=&m3=real_article&frombest=Y&page=1

Flash reveals that KT made him sign a contract with "negative clause"; if he did not win 40 times, 30000000 won (~$27981 US dollars) would be deducted from his salary. The original number was actually 53 wins, which Flash managed to reduce by threatening to quit.

Pretty insane.


I dont get it, is this a present contract we are talking about? Flash is under contract with KT nowadays?
40 wins from when to when?

This data seems to be lacking a lot of context or maybe I just missed something, can someone explain a little further please?


There was a period in history (mid-2008 to mid-2011) when the very best performing ProLeague players won over 40 ProLeague matches over the course of a year long season. The circumstances allowing for such an extensive ProLeague scheduling were never found before or since.

From mid-2008 to mid-2011 (a time-frame lasting roughly three years), I will post the top five performing players in terms of total number of ProLeague victories per season (including the post-season games):

Shinhan 2008/2009 ProLeague

1. Jaedong: 63 wins
2. Bisu: 55 wins
3. Flash: 54 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
4. Leta: 49 wins
5. Calm: 42 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories

Shinhan 2009/2010 ProLeague

1. Flash: 61 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
2. Jaedong: 52 wins
3. Light: 49 wins
4. FanTaSy: 46 wins
5. Leta: 43 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories

Shinhan 2010/2011 ProLeague

1. Bisu: 66 wins
2. Flash: 60 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's proposed clause of a minimal requirement of 53 ProLeague victories
3. Jaedong: 51 wins
4. Stats: 48 wins
5. ZerO: 44 wins
--------------------------- KT Rolster's final clause of a minimal requirement of 40 ProLeague victories

All the other ProLeague seasons in history basically had the schedule arranged in a manner that made it basically impossible for players to win over 40 ProLeague matches.


Letmelose very awesome contribution,. You are setting the standards pretty high in temrs of data sharing, it's nice to have you around.

On June 08 2018 22:21 Hesmyrr wrote:
Apologizes. I didn't think the context that it was past was necessary, considering current state of the scene. I don't think exact time period is mentioned? Ironic Flash managed to meet those goals anyway, but some of these stories about former pro-scene coming out after players started streaming is ridiculous. I knew the condition was bad, but not that awful.


Nah man it's ok, it seems that most of ppl knew about 40 wins per Proleague season beeing a thing so they instantly knew about what you were talking about. In my case I strongly suspected that it was about Kespa times but wasn't sure.
Anyway, if details needed I just had to ask, as I did, it wasn't my intention to point out lack of context as a fault of yours, it was more that I needed the confirmation that I wasnt missreading something. Salut
Standard Queens
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
June 10 2018 21:33 GMT
#2091
Is it me or has K.H.J been MIA the last couple of months?
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Bingoman
Profile Joined June 2018
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-11 09:35:15
June 11 2018 09:13 GMT
#2092
edit

User was banned for this post.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4209 Posts
June 11 2018 15:04 GMT
#2093
On June 11 2018 06:33 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Is it me or has K.H.J been MIA the last couple of months?

Last post was Apr 19
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7004 Posts
June 11 2018 17:00 GMT
#2094
maybe he doesnt feel like posting sources and since waxangel made a big deal about that the last time
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
June 11 2018 20:43 GMT
#2095
na he just asked for a source, he didnt threaten to ban him or anything. sometimes TLers want to write articles about these things, so they need a source to confirm it
6 trillion
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5671 Posts
June 14 2018 00:34 GMT
#2096
Ginewda and Action got themselves a new hairline: [image loading]
FBH #1!
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
June 14 2018 19:41 GMT
#2097
still no word on ASL 6?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
June 15 2018 07:19 GMT
#2098
On June 11 2018 06:33 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Is it me or has K.H.J been MIA the last couple of months?



Oh, i had some trouble in my family, so i cant concentrate in this thread now.

sorry for that.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
June 15 2018 07:20 GMT
#2099
On June 15 2018 04:41 mishimaBeef wrote:
still no word on ASL 6?


no word.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-15 07:36:42
June 15 2018 07:30 GMT
#2100
Info about KSL.

*Online preliminary

6/28,6/29 Bo3
Map : FS,Gladiator,Polaris Rhapsody
most ex-pros have seed, so they dont need to participate in this preliminary.

*Offline Priliminary(Seoul)

6/30 bo3,bo5(final)
Map : FS,Gladiator,Polaris Rhapsody,CB,Fortress


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