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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
On July 12 2017 10:29 B-royal wrote: What are you guys complaining about? All this money will probably be invested into stacraft remastered tournaments /sarcasm Yeah, i hope so. Blizzard has much power than pc bangs, so we cant touch it. Also, we cant blame blizzard. It is just company which want to generate more profit. So only one thing we can anticipate is more support in league. OGN starleague, SSL classic S2, ASL S4... and so on.. | ||
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Trozz
Canada3455 Posts
An hourly rate is too much. Bangs won't stand for this. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 12 2017 10:35 K.H.J wrote: Yeah, i hope so. Blizzard has much power than pc bangs, so we cant touch it. Also, we cant blame blizzard. It is just company which want to generate more profit. So only one thing we can anticipate is more support in league. OGN starleague, SSL classic S2, ASL S4... and so on.. If their way of "generating profit" leads to PC bangs not going along with it then they might have to kiss quite a bit of profit goodbye. | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
The PC Bangs could cover this fee by charging 1.3 USD per hour instead (which is still a pretty reasonable price) but yeah, that's a 30 % price increase by the hour. Ouch. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On July 12 2017 11:57 opisska wrote: I don't really understand how this works legally. Whichever government set up laws so that the PC bangs ownerz can't just install buy a copy for each PC and install it deserve to be thrown out of the window. Seriously, this is not the time to shit on Blizzard, they are a corporation which is almost obligated to use a way to make money when such gets so openly offered, this is the time to realize how stupid IP laws are all around the world. It's simple these institutions are generating profit off of the product that Blizzard created, so Blizzard demands a portion of that profit. The same way a composer is receiving money when his songs are being played on the radio/TV/Club. Saying " Whichever government set up laws so that the PC bangs ownerz can't just install buy a copy for each PC and install it " is like saying "Why can't radio owners buy an album of X artist and just play it"... It doesn't work that way. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On July 12 2017 15:44 Pr0wler wrote: It's simple these institutions are generating profit off of the product that Blizzard created, so Blizzard demands a portion of that profit. The same way a composer is receiving money when his songs are being played on the radio/TV/Club. Saying " Whiczhever government set up laws so that the PC bangs ownerz can't just install buy a copy for each PC and install it " is like saying "Why can't radio owners buy an album of X artist and just play it"... It doesn't work that way. Except that: - they already make the PC bangs pay for a fixed fee package - 22% is a gigantic fee - if PC bangs are outraged by this, it certainly isn't a common practice. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On July 12 2017 15:44 Pr0wler wrote: It's simple these institutions are generating profit off of the product that Blizzard created, so Blizzard demands a portion of that profit. The same way a composer is receiving money when his songs are being played on the radio/TV/Club. Saying " Whichever government set up laws so that the PC bangs ownerz can't just install buy a copy for each PC and install it " is like saying "Why can't radio owners buy an album of X artist and just play it"... It doesn't work that way. Indeed it doesn't, that's true. It's also monstrously absurd, but people got so accustomed to it that they will jump up and defend it. This special status of anything that can be conceivably labelled as "creative work" needs to end as soon as possible. I can choose from an enormous gamut of products that I can buy, for a one-off fee, and generate profit from them, as long as they are physical items, so why suddenly it "makes sense" that it is so different for "intelectual property". TL;DR: if you country has a pirate party, vote for it | ||
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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On July 12 2017 16:08 endy wrote: Except that: - they already make the PC bangs pay for a fixed fee package - 22% is a gigantic fee - if PC bangs are outraged by this, it certainly isn't a common practice. The amount of the fee is a product of negotiations, I don't think that we know enough to make a decision, whether 22% is gigantic or not. For me it's just an arbitrary number. The "PC bangs" are leveraging their position to get better deal. This is why they are "outraged"(To be fair, Blizzard is doing the same.)... These are all common practices during negotiations. On July 12 2017 16:18 opisska wrote: Indeed it doesn't, that's true. It's also monstrously absurd, but people got so accustomed to it that they will jump up and defend it. This special status of anything that can be conceivably labelled as "creative work" needs to end as soon as possible. I can choose from an enormous gamut of products that I can buy, for a one-off fee, and generate profit from them, as long as they are physical items, so why suddenly it "makes sense" that it is so different for "intelectual property". TL;DR: if you country has a pirate party, vote for it Umm, I don't agree with that so I won't vote for any such party  | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
F*ck you blizzard | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4356 Posts
If koreans play on fish theres no need for blizzard matchmaking The move will backfire on Blizz. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
On July 12 2017 15:44 Pr0wler wrote: It's simple these institutions are generating profit off of the product that Blizzard created, so Blizzard demands a portion of that profit. The same way a composer is receiving money when his songs are being played on the radio/TV/Club. Saying " Whichever government set up laws so that the PC bangs ownerz can't just install buy a copy for each PC and install it " is like saying "Why can't radio owners buy an album of X artist and just play it"... It doesn't work that way. so why arent streamers, who generate donations by playing a Blizzard product, are not getting a Blizzard email telling them to give them 22% of their income or else getting sued? this sounds like the youtube let`s play - monetization incident. although i dont know Blizzard EULA good enough to know if that is legal, or Blizzard is just too nice by still allowing us to do it. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I remember in the old, good BW days I used to play 1v1/2v2 only. Now I've installed SC:BW again, waiting for Remastered and keep playing 3v3/4v4 games with friends on Hunters only :D | ||
GTR
51497 Posts
Guess how that turned out. | ||
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K.H.J
Korea (South)769 Posts
Is there same policy? | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
PC Bangs in Poland died like 10 years ago or something. | ||
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GTR
51497 Posts
So TL:DR - from what I understand, this isn't something specific with the release of SC:R but rather a trend consistent with Blizzard games at PC bangs in general. I guess the Korean PC Bang Association figured this was a perfect time to push their agenda once again. | ||
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