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Espers
United Kingdom606 Posts
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ArmadA[NaS]
United States350 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On May 27 2017 20:35 InfCereal wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention this. "Cloud saves keep your replays a click away on any computer. Access an overview or rewatch the action!" That's pretty cool, and something SC2 doesn't even have. Yep. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
Good: There's no bonus pool. No division rank. Both should be removed from SC2 or at the least deprioritized by making it less prominent and MMR more prominent. Points better be MMR. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 28 2017 07:02 AbouSV wrote: I not low APM. I'm incredibly low APY (action per year). Especially the 10 last years. But I see that it's not really worth asking stuff around :/ Cause pride over your APM has always been a thing in Broodwar especially, nothing more impressive than say watching at least on the old days, Bisu for example having like 400+ apm or around there and being everywhere at once or Nada/July for other races, just a big number thing i think. Atleast for me I only hit C on iccup(old system ages ago) but always have 250-300 which is just fun to see really | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On May 28 2017 12:04 arb wrote: Cause pride over your APM has always been a thing in Broodwar especially, nothing more impressive than say watching at least on the old days, Bisu for example having like 400+ apm or around there and being everywhere at once or Nada/July for other races, just a big number thing i think. Atleast for me I only hit C on iccup(old system ages ago) but always have 250-300 which is just fun to see really Oh, ok, thanks! | ||
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Poly_Optimize
Canada156 Posts
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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
On May 28 2017 09:42 f10eqq wrote: Lol at people complaining about the completely arbitrary rank names. Not only is it completely meaningless, but you could argue that the three tiered system used in sc2 nowadays (masters 1, masters 2, masters 3, etc.) is closer to the old WGT/Gamei system since they had A1,A2,A3 instead of A-/A/A+. Also, everyone compared ratings not the arbitrary rank groupings. They are only arbitrary in your mind. To me they represent a status symbol and a well-ingrained metric that gets most of its value out of the fact that it has been the norm for almost 2 decades. It allows players to go back and compare themselves to iconic players of the past. It gives them clear, understandable goals to work towards. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
Ranks would be nice to have iCCup or Fish classes. Avoiding SC2 comparison would be better. Also, I always found the division system in SC2 uncalled for. Having a global rank is better than a useless and meaningless standalone rank. People would argue "oh whats the point to know im ranked 71.645th??? Id rather be 15th in my division". Well, the point is: you are the 71.645th best playa in da worl. It holds more value than saying you are 15th in your division. | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada951 Posts
One is a letter and one is shiny, both say the same shit. Find another battle to fight to show how much you hate sc2 or whatever lol. I think this looks pretty sick. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On May 29 2017 01:13 B-royal wrote: They are only arbitrary in your mind. To me they represent a status symbol and a well-ingrained metric that gets most of its value out of the fact that it has been the norm for almost 2 decades. It allows players to go back and compare themselves to iconic players of the past. It gives them clear, understandable goals to work towards. If they did letter ranks in SC:R, I don't think it'll be that meaningful to compare those ranks to the ones in past systems because the distributions for the letter ranks can ultimately be different in SC:R. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On May 29 2017 01:13 B-royal wrote: They are only arbitrary in your mind. To me they represent a status symbol and a well-ingrained metric that gets most of its value out of the fact that it has been the norm for almost 2 decades. It allows players to go back and compare themselves to iconic players of the past. It gives them clear, understandable goals to work towards. I don't understand this point of view. In the really old days, the bnet interface had a ladder screen with rankings, and the ratings only had a numerical value, e.g. 1500. Your ladder score also replaced the five stars next to your name in the chat channel. The first big ladder for non-Koreans (gamei was almost exclusively Korean) was WGT, which first used the lettering system but in a different way. You started at C6, then C5, C4...C0. After C0 came B6, all the way to B0 and then A. Next came PGT which, unlike WGT, had its own server and modified the letter ranks to use pluses and minuses. You started at D, then D+, C-, all the way to A+ which was 12,000 points. After that they made an olympic rank at 20,000 points (Bisu was the first one to get there). Now it seems like Fish uses a simplified version of that, with E-A and then S. In my experience there hasn't been a single norm for almost two decades. It has been constantly evolving and an SC2-like system will just be the next step. I never thought I'd play BW again but I can't resist! We just need clan wars and nation wars now. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10893 Posts
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
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city42
1656 Posts
On May 29 2017 02:37 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Except PGT and iCCup using same system from 2004 so its like 13-14 years So? The player pool and relative skill level change from season to season. Jumping on iccup right now isn't like playing on iccup in 2009. Pulling up a random PGT ladder ranking from archive.org shows zero non-Korean flags in the top 50. Compare that to iccup in 2017...can you say that the ladder ranks carry the same significance? This idea of reaching a certain rank and comparing yourself to "iconic players of the past" is a bit silly. Why not just enjoy the first built-in BW ladder system in 15 or 16 years? | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On May 29 2017 02:36 GGzerG wrote: People will always find a reason to complain, I for one am grateful this is happening and thank Blizzard for doing this for BW. I don't really get why this happens on forums, every time. Criticizing about a feature that asked for feedback is normal. It's expected. What's the purpose of criticizing people criticizing? Is the forums supposed to 100% agreeable at all times, just to your personal liking? | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
That said at the end of the day what the rank is called is about as meaningless as you can get. | ||
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
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lagcats
172 Posts
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