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On May 28 2017 01:57 ShambhalaWar wrote:
I like it, I'm looking forward to playing.
Also... it's amazing how people find a way to complain about even this.
Just don't buy it. Keep playing original bw, that's what you were doing anyway, nobody will take that from you.
It's amazing how people find reason to complain about a discussion. If you don't like discussions, don't visit the forum and have your peace. Nobody will take that from you.
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On May 28 2017 00:00 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 21:08 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i did talk with fish admin and he said fish will not have MM,so u will have F-S on fish.from my perspective .F and S has only real value on Fish with the skill lvl there is.iccup system is f*cked,anyone can reach A-. that's just not true. Yes, ranks have been inflated on ICCup, and you can get higher. But even if you abuse hardcore, you'll not get any higher then C maybe if your "true skill" is soild D. Other D ranks stop joining your game when you're C and higher, you know? Not everybody has time to grind 600 ladder games to make A- either. This argument you're presenting was wrong when it first was brought up. And it's being repeated by players who have no idea what you can or can not achieve on lower skill levels.
Although this is mostly true, take a look at this:
https://iccup.com/en/starcraft/matchlist/7960012/1x1.html
Lovely_kayoung 1x1 108W-1L
I understand this is most likely an outlying scenario, but still, you need to acknowledge this sort of stuff when it happens, ICCup has weaknesses as a server.
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On May 28 2017 02:37 JungleTerrain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 00:00 Cele wrote:On May 27 2017 21:08 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i did talk with fish admin and he said fish will not have MM,so u will have F-S on fish.from my perspective .F and S has only real value on Fish with the skill lvl there is.iccup system is f*cked,anyone can reach A-. that's just not true. Yes, ranks have been inflated on ICCup, and you can get higher. But even if you abuse hardcore, you'll not get any higher then C maybe if your "true skill" is soild D. Other D ranks stop joining your game when you're C and higher, you know? Not everybody has time to grind 600 ladder games to make A- either. This argument you're presenting was wrong when it first was brought up. And it's being repeated by players who have no idea what you can or can not achieve on lower skill levels. Although this is mostly true, take a look at this: https://iccup.com/en/starcraft/matchlist/7960012/1x1.htmlLovely_kayoung 1x1 108W-1L I understand this is most likely an outlying scenario, but still, you need to acknowledge this sort of stuff when it happens, ICCup has weaknesses as a server.
yeah it has. Eon just exaggerated it i think. That dude is no D player btw. If you take a look through the matchhistory, he farmed D ranks mostly but also won against C ranks where he met him. The player you linked is probably a good bit better then D rank, perhaps not good enough to reach A- the hard way.
Compare it to this Account. Close to 250 games, D rank, 33% winratio. There's still legitimate competition on lower levels, i think some higher player just fail to see that. Well i disgress. I acknowledge the weaknesses current ICCup ladder has but think, it's way better then some people claim.
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On May 28 2017 02:45 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 02:37 JungleTerrain wrote:On May 28 2017 00:00 Cele wrote:On May 27 2017 21:08 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i did talk with fish admin and he said fish will not have MM,so u will have F-S on fish.from my perspective .F and S has only real value on Fish with the skill lvl there is.iccup system is f*cked,anyone can reach A-. that's just not true. Yes, ranks have been inflated on ICCup, and you can get higher. But even if you abuse hardcore, you'll not get any higher then C maybe if your "true skill" is soild D. Other D ranks stop joining your game when you're C and higher, you know? Not everybody has time to grind 600 ladder games to make A- either. This argument you're presenting was wrong when it first was brought up. And it's being repeated by players who have no idea what you can or can not achieve on lower skill levels. Although this is mostly true, take a look at this: https://iccup.com/en/starcraft/matchlist/7960012/1x1.htmlLovely_kayoung 1x1 108W-1L I understand this is most likely an outlying scenario, but still, you need to acknowledge this sort of stuff when it happens, ICCup has weaknesses as a server. yeah it has. Eon just exaggerated it i think. That dude is no D player btw. If you take a look through the matchhistory, he farmed D ranks mostly but also won against C ranks where he met him. The player you linked is probably a good bit better then D rank, perhaps not good enough to reach A- the hard way. Compare it to this Account. Close to 250 games, D rank, 33% winratio. There's still legitimate competition on lower levels, i think some higher player just fail to see that. Well i disgress. I acknowledge the weaknesses current ICCup ladder has but think, it's way better then some people claim.
I honestly really like ICCup and it was so much fun back when i played and number of users hovered around 2000. Unfortunately the problems with the ladder seem to be external to the server, mostly because of a lack of activity. I personally also prefer the F to S ranks, the metallic ranks make me think of MOBA games or something like that and I think it's weird for BW, but eh, it's cosmetics.
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I am max C/C+ hit A- by playing another D/C ranks. Checkmate ggnore. Any chobo like me can do it if only have time to play 150-200 games with is not a big number if you have 3 months to do it. iCCup new system is trash if u think ranks reflect skillz, and its ok if u just wanna play for fun and dont care about is rank = skill. And 2v2 is even worse cuz now even D+ can hit A-. As i said, real ladder now on iccup starts from A-. Under A- u cant be sure, avs who are you playing cuz it canbe DCBA on any rank.
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On May 27 2017 21:08 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i did talk with fish admin and he said fish will not have MM,so u will have F-S on fish.from my perspective .F and S has only real value on Fish with the skill lvl there is.iccup system is f*cked,anyone can reach A-.
Oh really? That sucks that they won't have MM. I would have been happy if they kept F-S, but also had match making. Guess it's not that big of a deal as it's very easy to get games on there. Was hoping Fish would have MM, but they would control the map lists/rankings.
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On May 28 2017 03:35 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
I am max C/C+ hit A- by playing another D/C ranks. Checkmate ggnore. Any chobo like me can do it if only have time to play 150-200 games with is not a big number if you have 3 months to do it. iCCup new system is trash if u think ranks reflect skillz, and its ok if u just wanna play for fun and dont care about is rank = skill. And 2v2 is even worse cuz now even D+ can hit A-. As i said, real ladder now on iccup starts from A-. Under A- u cant be sure, avs who are you playing cuz it canbe DCBA on any rank.
https://iccup.com/en/starcraft/gamingprofile/aFF］ZuluNation.html You were making C+ with 75% winrate back in season 14. 25-0 C- Season 19. Clearly, you are not a noob? Yeah that's totally the same thing as the account i linked above. D rank with 250 games in Season 39 or something. ggnore.
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The matchmaking system looks to be pretty awesome. Makes me want to play again
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it looks amazing even though i dislike the bronze, silver, gold, bullshit. every game has that system now. i'm wondering how it'll translate. i think it'll be like this:
D-/D =Bronze
D+ =Silver
C-/C =Gold
C+/B- =Platinum
B/A- = Masters
A/olympic= Grand Master
Hopefully it'll be like that so getting a decent rank would be worth it and mean something, when i played SC2, i got platinum without knowing builds and just being a D+ iccup player
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Season 14 C+ was like D+ now... Im like C 150-150 now , when i play vs same rank but was able to make A- by stupidity of this new system.
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The Bronze-Master and A-F debate is real, lol.
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On May 28 2017 06:08 CecilSunkure wrote:
The Bronze-Master and A-F debate is real, lol.
I think the real reason is because it resembles SC2 and other popular games. That and the associated ideas that come with bringing BW into the limelight. I think it's understandable in the context that people have stuck with this game for so long and they have definitely attached to it, through thick and thin.
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On May 28 2017 05:43 RaNgeD wrote:
The matchmaking system looks to be pretty awesome. Makes me want to play again
Holy shit son. Welcome back.
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If only they would be useing F - S ranks
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On May 27 2017 20:24 Netto. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 20:15 AbouSV wrote:
Why is the average APM so important to be shown this big on one of the main pages of the profile? I am afraid to say that low APM players will never understand it 
I not low APM. I'm incredibly low APY (action per year). Especially the 10 last years.
But I see that it's not really worth asking stuff around :/
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Hyped. This looked super cool
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Looks good overall, but don't like the CC in the background. Not only is it taking up lots of wasted screen space, but the windows are transparent.
I don't have much faith in Blizzard after bnet 2.0, so lets hope other people are in charge of this...
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On May 28 2017 08:00 Hotshot wrote:
Looks good overall, but don't like the CC in the background. Not only is it taking up lots of wasted screen space, but the windows are transparent.
I don't have much faith in Blizzard after bnet 2.0, so lets hope other people are in charge of this...
The windows don't look transparent to me in the pics...
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On May 28 2017 08:10 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 08:00 Hotshot wrote:
Looks good overall, but don't like the CC in the background. Not only is it taking up lots of wasted screen space, but the windows are transparent.
I don't have much faith in Blizzard after bnet 2.0, so lets hope other people are in charge of this... The windows don't look transparent to me in the pics...
Not sure why you can't see it, because almost every background of any interface (even the buttons, chat window, header, etc) are all transparent. It's possible you are either thinking of something else, or perhaps you have a very low end TN monitor that can't produce the colors??
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On May 28 2017 09:05 Hotshot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 08:10 eviltomahawk wrote:On May 28 2017 08:00 Hotshot wrote:
Looks good overall, but don't like the CC in the background. Not only is it taking up lots of wasted screen space, but the windows are transparent.
I don't have much faith in Blizzard after bnet 2.0, so lets hope other people are in charge of this... The windows don't look transparent to me in the pics... Not sure why you can't see it, because almost every background of any interface (even the buttons, chat window, header, etc) are all transparent. It's possible you are either thinking of something else, or perhaps you have a very low end TN monitor that can't produce the colors??
Oh i see it now. The lighting wasn't very good for me when I took a look the last time on my phone. I personally think the transparency is opaque enough that the background isn't too distracting.
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