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This is NOT a BW vs SC2 topic thread. Be cautious of what you post. Starting Page 26, warnings/bans will be handed out if this note is ignored.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 05 2016 12:14 GMT
#61
On August 05 2016 21:09 f10eqq wrote:
I'm slightly worried about the incompatibilities w/ replays, plugins, etc but i guess we can keep the old sc for that. Assuming this gets popular, will Iccup/Shieldbattery switch?


as i said above, i imagine Blizzard will try to shut any pirate servers out. (ICCup, FISH, SB)
And if they do it proper, we won't have the chance to switch. If not, there is interest on our side to switch, but we have to evaluate

a) the technical difficulties to do so

b) if it's a good idea in the first place
because

b1) Compatibility between old BW and BW HD could be an issue

b2) how time consuming it is for our coders.
Broodwar for life!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19289 Posts
August 05 2016 12:15 GMT
#62
I found a link to the Starcraft HD Download and omg they changed so much!

Starcraft 1 HD
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50532 Posts
August 05 2016 12:19 GMT
#63
On August 05 2016 21:15 BisuDagger wrote:
I found a link to the Starcraft HD Download and omg they changed so much!

Starcraft 1 HD

5/7

Well played.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 05 2016 12:26 GMT
#64
On August 05 2016 21:15 BisuDagger wrote:
I found a link to the Starcraft HD Download and omg they changed so much!

Starcraft 1 HD


tadaaa!
Broodwar for life!
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
August 05 2016 12:26 GMT
#65
On August 05 2016 21:14 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 21:09 f10eqq wrote:
I'm slightly worried about the incompatibilities w/ replays, plugins, etc but i guess we can keep the old sc for that. Assuming this gets popular, will Iccup/Shieldbattery switch?


as i said above, i imagine Blizzard will try to shut any pirate servers out. (ICCup, FISH, SB)
And if they do it proper, we won't have the chance to switch. If not, there is interest on our side to switch, but we have to evaluate


a) the technical difficulties to do so

b) if it's a good idea in the first place
because

b1) Compatibility between old BW and BW HD could be an issue

b2) how time consuming it is for our coders.


Do you really think they'd do that? It's not like wow private servers, they aren't losing any direct/significant money. The only thing this can result in is a huge backlash, but this time completely warranted (compared to the nostalrius shutdown).
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 12:28:51
August 05 2016 12:28 GMT
#66
Plot twist:

Just like MW HD, you only get BW HD when you buy Warcraft IV.

Activision style
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 12:47:19
August 05 2016 12:33 GMT
#67
On August 05 2016 21:26 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 21:14 Cele wrote:
On August 05 2016 21:09 f10eqq wrote:
I'm slightly worried about the incompatibilities w/ replays, plugins, etc but i guess we can keep the old sc for that. Assuming this gets popular, will Iccup/Shieldbattery switch?


as i said above, i imagine Blizzard will try to shut any pirate servers out. (ICCup, FISH, SB)
And if they do it proper, we won't have the chance to switch. If not, there is interest on our side to switch, but we have to evaluate


a) the technical difficulties to do so

b) if it's a good idea in the first place
because

b1) Compatibility between old BW and BW HD could be an issue

b2) how time consuming it is for our coders.


Do you really think they'd do that? It's not like wow private servers, they aren't losing any direct/significant money. The only thing this can result in is a huge backlash, but this time completely warranted (compared to the nostalrius shutdown).


i imagine them doing that, but who knows.

Think about it this way: Why does Blizzard make a BW HD remake in the first place? The idea is, as with any company, to earn money.

Who is the majority of the target audience to buy it? Gamers. Only a couple hundred of them use bnet 1.0 still every day and are used to the quite "dated" interface. The majority of young gamers they want to target already bought a couple of blizzard titles, like sc2, HS, Overwatch, you name it and is accommodated to the bnet 2.0 interface, they are also used to games that have no Lan support.

Means: Blizzard will attempt to have a platform for it's new product, that is state of the art and appeals to younger gamers.

So, if we assume bnet 2.0 is going to be the platform and the game is gonna lack LAN support, we know it's gonna be very hard for pirate servers to emulate that, effectively shutting them out, even is it's no consideration for Blizzard Entertainment at all and just coincidental.


€: Of course my whole post is based on the assumption that we are talking about an individual release for BW HD. If it's just a patch, i see no problem at all.
Broodwar for life!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 05 2016 12:36 GMT
#68
On August 05 2016 21:28 Clonester wrote:
Plot twist:

Just like MW HD, you only get BW HD when you buy Warcraft IV.

Activision style


I'm all for it if they make WarCraft IV.
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 12:40:18
August 05 2016 12:38 GMT
#69
I'm hoping Blizzard adds the following improvements to the new update:

  • LAN removed to stop piracy and private servers to protect Blizzard™ Inc.'s intellectual property
  • A pop-up window telling you to upgrade to StarCraft II every time you launch BW
  • Incompatibility with all custom games and replays from previous versions
  • Removal of games list and replaced by Battle.net 2.0's Matchmaking and Arcade options
  • Removal of public chat channels and replaced by Battle.net 2.0's messaging system plus Facebook integration
  • 200 max unit selection and multi-building selection
  • Air unit (mutalisk, corsair, etc.) clumping bug fixed
  • Smooth SC2-like unit pathing and clumping
  • Tank pickup and drop in siege mode
  • Bunker build time increased by 5 seconds
6 trillion
Eogris
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States148 Posts
August 05 2016 12:43 GMT
#70
Would anyone else like a quick match function with ladders?
THE NUKES GONNA LAND ON HIS ARMYYYYYYYYYYY
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 12:44:47
August 05 2016 12:44 GMT
#71
On August 05 2016 21:38 Lazare1969 wrote:
I'm hoping Blizzard adds the following improvements to the new update:

  • LAN removed to stop piracy and private servers to protect Blizzard™ Inc.'s intellectual property
  • A pop-up window telling you to upgrade to StarCraft II every time you launch BW
  • Incompatibility with all custom games and replays from previous versions
  • Removal of games list and replaced by Battle.net 2.0's Matchmaking and Arcade options
  • Removal of public chat channels and replaced by Battle.net 2.0's messaging system plus Facebook integration
  • 200 max unit selection and multi-building selection
  • Air unit (mutalisk, corsair, etc.) clumping bug fixed
  • Smooth SC2-like unit pathing and clumping
  • Tank pickup and drop in siege mode
  • Bunker build time increased by 5 seconds

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petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil374 Posts
August 05 2016 12:58 GMT
#72
Are we talking about a new game release? Or is this just the patch 1.17? The only thing I miss is a good automatchmaking ladder. Hopefully they won't change the gameplay at all.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
August 05 2016 13:06 GMT
#73
Can I kill a lurker with one storm again pls? plsssssssss? :-[
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
August 05 2016 13:21 GMT
#74
On August 05 2016 21:38 Lazare1969 wrote:
I'm hoping Blizzard adds the following improvements to the new update:

  • LAN removed to stop piracy and private servers to protect Blizzard™ Inc.'s intellectual property
  • A pop-up window telling you to upgrade to StarCraft II every time you launch BW
  • Incompatibility with all custom games and replays from previous versions
  • Removal of games list and replaced by Battle.net 2.0's Matchmaking and Arcade options
  • Removal of public chat channels and replaced by Battle.net 2.0's messaging system plus Facebook integration
  • 200 max unit selection and multi-building selection
  • Air unit (mutalisk, corsair, etc.) clumping bug fixed
  • Smooth SC2-like unit pathing and clumping
  • Tank pickup and drop in siege mode
  • Bunker build time increased by 5 seconds


OH MY GOD, are you serious??? FIVE seconds? No way.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19289 Posts
August 05 2016 13:28 GMT
#75
On August 05 2016 22:06 tenacity wrote:
Can I kill a lurker with one storm again pls? plsssssssss? :-[

Pshh, we need aoe mind control.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 13:48:15
August 05 2016 13:48 GMT
#76
Would broodwar be ruined with 200 unit selection?

12 units felt crappy back in 1998 still feels crappy now
Neosteel Enthusiast
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 05 2016 13:52 GMT
#77
On August 05 2016 21:33 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2016 21:26 B-royal wrote:
On August 05 2016 21:14 Cele wrote:
On August 05 2016 21:09 f10eqq wrote:
I'm slightly worried about the incompatibilities w/ replays, plugins, etc but i guess we can keep the old sc for that. Assuming this gets popular, will Iccup/Shieldbattery switch?


as i said above, i imagine Blizzard will try to shut any pirate servers out. (ICCup, FISH, SB)
And if they do it proper, we won't have the chance to switch. If not, there is interest on our side to switch, but we have to evaluate


a) the technical difficulties to do so

b) if it's a good idea in the first place
because

b1) Compatibility between old BW and BW HD could be an issue

b2) how time consuming it is for our coders.


Do you really think they'd do that? It's not like wow private servers, they aren't losing any direct/significant money. The only thing this can result in is a huge backlash, but this time completely warranted (compared to the nostalrius shutdown).


i imagine them doing that, but who knows.

Think about it this way: Why does Blizzard make a BW HD remake in the first place? The idea is, as with any company, to earn money.

Who is the majority of the target audience to buy it? Gamers. Only a couple hundred of them use bnet 1.0 still every day and are used to the quite "dated" interface. The majority of young gamers they want to target already bought a couple of blizzard titles, like sc2, HS, Overwatch, you name it and is accommodated to the bnet 2.0 interface, they are also used to games that have no Lan support.

Means: Blizzard will attempt to have a platform for it's new product, that is state of the art and appeals to younger gamers.

So, if we assume bnet 2.0 is going to be the platform and the game is gonna lack LAN support, we know it's gonna be very hard for pirate servers to emulate that, effectively shutting them out, even is it's no consideration for Blizzard Entertainment at all and just coincidental.


€: Of course my whole post is based on the assumption that we are talking about an individual release for BW HD. If it's just a patch, i see no problem at all.

Doubt it to be honest, running servers only costs THEM money.

But lets wait for what actual improvements are, there is big difference between an entire new engine, or just higher quality sprites.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 05 2016 13:54 GMT
#78
On August 05 2016 22:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Would broodwar be ruined with 200 unit selection?

12 units felt crappy back in 1998 still feels crappy now

I think so, Imagine this without a selection cap

The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 05 2016 13:55 GMT
#79
This is both exciting and terrifying at the same time if true. I just can't see Blizz going and "HD'ing" everything and not being able to resist messing with other things.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-05 13:59:38
August 05 2016 13:58 GMT
#80
On August 05 2016 22:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Would broodwar be ruined with 200 unit selection?

12 units felt crappy back in 1998 still feels crappy now


Yes the game would be ruined.

- >12 air units in one control group would break mutalisks foremost.
- > army control would be way too easy at specific points in the game conferring a too great of an advantage to the different races during these periods of time (for example marines and zerglings).
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
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