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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 17 2016 12:42 GMT
#481
Doubt that anyone here knows me by now but: comeback time!!!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 17 2016 12:56 GMT
#482
Are we allowed to post hype image macros? :D
To mirror our enthusiasm and passun for the game?
Maybe just small ones? Like, tiny? In spoilers?
+ Show Spoiler [hypothetically like this one?] +
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The poster takes no responsibility for the content of this post, or any damage that may be caused by the post. Do not read without consulting with your doctor. please note that this post is hypothetical only.
Biolunar
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany224 Posts
May 17 2016 13:00 GMT
#483
I’m just waiting for the source code to go public.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
May 17 2016 13:05 GMT
#484
On May 17 2016 22:00 Biolunar wrote:
I’m just waiting for the source code to go public.


So am I.
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos251 Posts
May 17 2016 13:07 GMT
#485
Why we used to be able to create games without any problems back in 2000 but now we have to configure port things? Can someone briefly explain what happened?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 17 2016 13:09 GMT
#486
On May 17 2016 22:07 ppp87 wrote:
Why we used to be able to create games without any problems back in 2000 but now we have to configure port things? Can someone briefly explain what happened?


Back then we didn't have all-in-one modem + WiFi routers. All we had was a modem, so there was not NAT/router security involved.
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ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
May 17 2016 14:02 GMT
#487
I heard that if a server is hosted in Russia, it can't be attacked legally by blizzard
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 17 2016 16:31 GMT
#488
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
May 17 2016 16:58 GMT
#489
I don't even know a 2pac.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 17 2016 17:27 GMT
#490
On May 17 2016 00:31 ReiKo wrote:
Scan trough what? You think they know how every of applicants behave and which skills they have?
They should just roll with it, nothing bad can't happen, maybe they are scared of hackers but you should be scared of that all the time and be on your guard.

They took information when you signed up for the beta, right? That wasn't just so they could sell it to Google.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4964 Posts
May 17 2016 17:30 GMT
#491
On May 18 2016 02:27 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 00:31 ReiKo wrote:
Scan trough what? You think they know how every of applicants behave and which skills they have?
They should just roll with it, nothing bad can't happen, maybe they are scared of hackers but you should be scared of that all the time and be on your guard.

They took information when you signed up for the beta, right? That wasn't just so they could sell it to Google.

Truth is we sold it to some obscure asian company + Show Spoiler +
jk ^^
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lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
May 17 2016 17:39 GMT
#492
hyped for this! time to install bw again
fromis_9 enjoyer
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 17 2016 17:50 GMT
#493
SIGNED UP

2-15 ON ICCUP SO FAR IN PREPARATION

I MEAN I GUESS I WON TWO GAMES AT LEAST
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
May 17 2016 18:15 GMT
#494
On May 18 2016 02:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
SIGNED UP

2-15 ON ICCUP SO FAR IN PREPARATION

I MEAN I GUESS I WON TWO GAMES AT LEAST

Hahah,im 1-4 :D
...
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 17 2016 18:37 GMT
#495
On May 18 2016 01:31 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.

Is it nowadays political incorrect to make a calm post to not overhype things and make a reasonable time estimation without praising the work that has been done already or what is the point of those responses?

On May 17 2016 05:53 tec27 wrote:
We don't have a set timeline. The goal of the closed beta is to test things in a more controlled fashion. Until we're certain that failures are incredibly rare, we want to ensure we can have a close relationship and tight feedback loop with all of our testers. We also want people that won't run away from the site and never come back if they encounter a bug

So, once we feel pretty good about the state of things and feel like we don't need that tight feedback loop any more, we'll open things up to anyone who wants to sign up. I would estimate this is in the range of ~months, but I'm not promising any particular dates. This is, after all, a side project for me; I have a full time job that has to come first.

tec himself wrote it will be months before the next step and I would consider that a long time.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
May 17 2016 18:48 GMT
#496
On May 18 2016 03:37 Cryoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 01:31 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.

Is it nowadays political incorrect to make a calm post to not overhype things and make a reasonable time estimation without praising the work that has been done already or what is the point of those responses?

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 05:53 tec27 wrote:
We don't have a set timeline. The goal of the closed beta is to test things in a more controlled fashion. Until we're certain that failures are incredibly rare, we want to ensure we can have a close relationship and tight feedback loop with all of our testers. We also want people that won't run away from the site and never come back if they encounter a bug

So, once we feel pretty good about the state of things and feel like we don't need that tight feedback loop any more, we'll open things up to anyone who wants to sign up. I would estimate this is in the range of ~months, but I'm not promising any particular dates. This is, after all, a side project for me; I have a full time job that has to come first.

tec himself wrote it will be months before the next step and I would consider that a long time.

To clarify, I said months before the site would be completely open to whoever wanted to sign up. That's not "the next step". The next step is to continue inviting new groups of people gradually, which we'll continue doing all the way up to that point.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 17 2016 19:09 GMT
#497
On May 18 2016 03:48 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 03:37 Cryoc wrote:
On May 18 2016 01:31 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.

Is it nowadays political incorrect to make a calm post to not overhype things and make a reasonable time estimation without praising the work that has been done already or what is the point of those responses?

On May 17 2016 05:53 tec27 wrote:
We don't have a set timeline. The goal of the closed beta is to test things in a more controlled fashion. Until we're certain that failures are incredibly rare, we want to ensure we can have a close relationship and tight feedback loop with all of our testers. We also want people that won't run away from the site and never come back if they encounter a bug

So, once we feel pretty good about the state of things and feel like we don't need that tight feedback loop any more, we'll open things up to anyone who wants to sign up. I would estimate this is in the range of ~months, but I'm not promising any particular dates. This is, after all, a side project for me; I have a full time job that has to come first.

tec himself wrote it will be months before the next step and I would consider that a long time.

To clarify, I said months before the site would be completely open to whoever wanted to sign up. That's not "the next step". The next step is to continue inviting new groups of people gradually, which we'll continue doing all the way up to that point.

So until the beta is open, right? That is what I meant with next step as well as what atrox_ wrote.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-17 19:16:41
May 17 2016 19:14 GMT
#498
Care to provide some statistics? :D

- current number of people opted in (but not invited) to the closed beta
- current number of people invited
- strongest current player (from iccup/fish rank, I guess)
- (which position I'm in T_T)
T P Z sagi
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-17 19:40:04
May 17 2016 19:39 GMT
#499
On May 18 2016 01:31 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.


Yes I'm completely aware I just don't think you are. You've seemingly misread my entire post. Things like this happen all the time a new product is announced with a "soon" type release date to which people get hyped. The product then doesn't come out for a good amount of time after the inital hype thus people are disappointed, forget about it and no longer care. I merely mentioned that the majority of us should just back burner this announcement for a while as there is nothing that they can do but wait.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 17 2016 20:00 GMT
#500
On May 18 2016 04:39 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 01:31 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.


Yes I'm completely aware I just don't think you are. You've seemingly misread my entire post. Things like this happen all the time a new product is announced with a "soon" type release date to which people get hyped. The product then doesn't come out for a good amount of time after the inital hype thus people are disappointed, forget about it and no longer care. I merely mentioned that the majority of us should just back burner this announcement for a while as there is nothing that they can do but wait.

I could've potentially misread your point but it's also likely because I'm following the production cycle and have seen the work and motivation first hand that I disagreed with your post. Anyways, best to leave it with what tec wrote since it's his and 2pac's project:

On May 18 2016 03:48 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 03:37 Cryoc wrote:
On May 18 2016 01:31 BigFan wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:32 atrox_ wrote:
On May 17 2016 20:15 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 17 2016 18:40 atrox_ wrote:
Seeing as it's taken 3 and a half years to get to the stage it's at currently I think it's best just to forget about it for now as I can't personally see an open beta happening for a long time

I don't think you quite understand- the stage it's at is that it works. People are already using and testing it in a closed beta. It has just taken a while to get there.


no I'm perfectly aware it's just that it's taken a very long time to get to where it is a 'closed' beta. Going off that time frame you can assume that the development time to get it ready for an 'open' beta is going to be a pretty long way away

You do realize the amount of work that it's taken both tec and 2pac to get it to this stage right? That's on top of their jobs and other commitments so three years and a half isn't that long when you factor all that stuff. Also, the fact that it is now public knowledge and is in closed beta already alludes to the stage it's currently in.

Is it nowadays political incorrect to make a calm post to not overhype things and make a reasonable time estimation without praising the work that has been done already or what is the point of those responses?

On May 17 2016 05:53 tec27 wrote:
We don't have a set timeline. The goal of the closed beta is to test things in a more controlled fashion. Until we're certain that failures are incredibly rare, we want to ensure we can have a close relationship and tight feedback loop with all of our testers. We also want people that won't run away from the site and never come back if they encounter a bug

So, once we feel pretty good about the state of things and feel like we don't need that tight feedback loop any more, we'll open things up to anyone who wants to sign up. I would estimate this is in the range of ~months, but I'm not promising any particular dates. This is, after all, a side project for me; I have a full time job that has to come first.

tec himself wrote it will be months before the next step and I would consider that a long time.

To clarify, I said months before the site would be completely open to whoever wanted to sign up. That's not "the next step". The next step is to continue inviting new groups of people gradually, which we'll continue doing all the way up to that point.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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