EPT
Wow, that was fast xD np^^
Edit: It's for free, if you do it via that link instead via tofu :p
ShieldBattery - BW Revitalized for Modern Mortals - Page 110
| Forum Index > BW General |
|
RedW4rr10r
Switzerland749 Posts
Wow, that was fast xD np^^ Edit: It's for free, if you do it via that link instead via tofu :p | ||
|
Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On December 29 2016 04:12 RedW4rr10r wrote: Wow, that was fast xD np^^ Edit: It's for free, if you do it via that link instead via tofu :p ill still need his address | ||
|
Netto.
Poland523 Posts
 | ||
|
SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On December 29 2016 04:31 Netto. wrote: Don't bother with signing up man, this whole beta signup doesn't seem to work correctly, at least for me Is this humor? I don't get it. | ||
|
Netto.
Poland523 Posts
 | ||
|
SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On December 29 2016 06:03 Netto. wrote: Yes... I am bad at telling jokes Don't worry I cranked out a laugh for you <3 | ||
|
RedW4rr10r
Switzerland749 Posts
On December 29 2016 07:17 SCC-Faust wrote: Don't worry I cranked out a laugh for you <3 So did i ^^ (although i pity you ) | ||
|
Qikz
United Kingdom12033 Posts
On December 29 2016 04:31 Netto. wrote: Don't bother with signing up man, this whole beta signup doesn't seem to work correctly, at least for me Doesn't work for me either. Been applied since the beginning of the beta IIRC | ||
|
fatrix
3 Posts
On December 29 2016 08:39 Qikz wrote: Doesn't work for me either. Been applied since the beginning of the beta IIRC Me too. I applied twice and nothing happened | ||
|
Canadianboy
32 Posts
| ||
|
chouithegewy
United States25 Posts
| ||
|
TT1
Canada10035 Posts
| ||
|
SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
I usually play at odd times (5am EST to 10am EST) and I host games with the name title [D/C/B]. I've played around 30 games in the past 2-3 days and literally every D player that has joined my game with the exception of one has been a smurf or previously holding B- or above ranks previous seasons. And that is if a D player does join my game. The majority of players who join my game are C+ or above. I'm all for going against people better than me and getting smashed, but it is starting to get frustrating that I am climbing up an ever so steep hill that it is very mentally exhausting. I know it is still a work in progress, but I think match-making alone will be a godsend that will fix the main problems with ICCup (other than the fact that anyone can host/play). I'm becoming very jaded with the fact that players my skill level or below go out of their way to avoid me, and then I have to fight smurfs and people who are just starting out the season as a previously B- or above player at the D ranks. And it is fucking retarded because I'm putting more of my points up on the line while the rewards I get are less than lucrative. Nothing about my ICCup experience has been that enjoyable or rewarding to me when I feel like I'm getting the short end of the stick because of how the system works. Not that the system is totally to blame, since when you host/join games you can dodge as much as you want and selectively pick your opponents which is such a fucked way to ladder, but that is how b.net works. I know suggestions are probably moot at this point since match-making is still a WIP, but I just hope there is a system in place where people get penalties for trying to avoid or leave games, even if it is under 2 minutes. And hopefully there isn't a way where people can see who they are up against before the game launches and they can just close their browser or whatever with no penalty and then they can just relog on Shieldbattery and requeue. Also I think a big way to fix that kind of abuse is also to implement rankings that are more strict than ICCup (but less strict than Fish please. Kinda blows that only 1-2 players are S and A rank). You can get to B- on ICCup by shitstomping noobs with more gain than loss the whole way there. There should be a really strong incentive to play people stronger or at your level, while consequences for playing people below you. I think the consequences shouldn't be that bad, especially considering it is queue match-making, but it needs to definitely be more strict than ICCup's. And for smurfs, I can't imagine how you would really fix this problem once it is open registration. Maybe put more weight on a fresh accounts wins. But I think something that would really help is carry over rank from previous Shieldbattery seasons (like how some players start new ICCup seasons at C-). But I think it is something that should kind of permanently stick to the account because too often I am pitted against D players who didn't play last season, but checking up on their stats they have like B- or B every season before it. So for example if you finish whatever the equivalent of a "B" rank is on Shieldbattery for a season, next season you start at C rank. And then if you don't play in that season, the season after that you decay to C-. And then D+. And if you haven't played for those two seasons as well, finally you are decayed to D rank again for the next season. | ||
|
Comodore
Brazil51 Posts
On December 29 2016 22:42 SCC-Faust wrote: I don't think I made a single post asking for an ETA, but I do want to vent a bit about my crappy experiences on ICCup. I usually play at odd times (5am EST to 10am EST) and I host games with the name title [D/C/B]. I've played around 30 games in the past 2-3 days and literally every D player that has joined my game with the exception of one has been a smurf or previously holding B- or above ranks previous seasons. And that is if a D player does join my game. The majority of players who join my game are C+ or above. I'm all for going against people better than me and getting smashed, but it is starting to get frustrating that I am climbing up an ever so steep hill that it is very mentally exhausting. I know it is still a work in progress, but I think match-making alone will be a godsend that will fix the main problems with ICCup (other than the fact that anyone can host/play). I'm becoming very jaded with the fact that players my skill level or below go out of their way to avoid me, and then I have to fight smurfs and people who are just starting out the season as a previously B- or above player at the D ranks. And it is fucking retarded because I'm putting more of my points up on the line while the rewards I get are less than lucrative. Nothing about my ICCup experience has been that enjoyable or rewarding to me when I feel like I'm getting the short end of the stick because of how the system works. Not that the system is totally to blame, since when you host/join games you can dodge as much as you want and selectively pick your opponents which is such a fucked way to ladder, but that is how b.net works. I know suggestions are probably moot at this point since match-making is still a WIP, but I just hope there is a system in place where people get penalties for trying to avoid or leave games, even if it is under 2 minutes. And hopefully there isn't a way where people can see who they are up against before the game launches and they can just close their browser or whatever with no penalty and then they can just relog on Shieldbattery and requeue. Also I think a big way to fix that kind of abuse is also to implement rankings that are more strict than ICCup (but less strict than Fish please. Kinda blows that only 1-2 players are S and A rank). You can get to B- on ICCup by shitstomping noobs with more gain than loss the whole way there. There should be a really strong incentive to play people stronger or at your level, while consequences for playing people below you. I think the consequences shouldn't be that bad, especially considering it is queue match-making, but it needs to definitely be more strict than ICCup's. And for smurfs, I can't imagine how you would really fix this problem once it is open registration. Maybe put more weight on a fresh accounts wins. But I think something that would really help is carry over rank from previous Shieldbattery seasons (like how some players start new ICCup seasons at C-). But I think it is something that should kind of permanently stick to the account because too often I am pitted against D players who didn't play last season, but checking up on their stats they have like B- or B every season before it. So for example if you finish whatever the equivalent of a "B" rank is on Shieldbattery for a season, next season you start at C rank. And then if you don't play in that season, the season after that you decay to C-. And then D+. And if you haven't played for those two seasons as well, finally you are decayed to D rank again for the next season. Faust, I agree with you that match-making will be a nice change to BW scene. But I think the problem in your iccup's experiencie it's your game's name. When you create a game called D/C/B, a true leve D/D+ player that want to ladder or just play a close skill game won't join that game. Because it seems that the host it's at least C+ or higher skill. When i make games with D/D+ name, most of ppl joining in are that in that range of skill level. Of course there are few games that some higher ranks come in, but most of games are indeed that range of skill level that i'm asking in the game's name. D/C/B games are hosted for ppl that are high level skill and just started laddering or a new acc. | ||
|
SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
| ||
|
Qikz
United Kingdom12033 Posts
Playing Broodwar right now on iCCUP is still fun, but god is it an easy way to kill your desire to play when every game is either you smashing someone or getting smashed. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12244 Posts
That's kind of a fundamental issue in any ranking system because everyone has to start somewhere, but the ShieldBattery design is aimed at making that as short-lived as possible. You should be able to grow downwards as well as upwards in the interest of getting fair matches. As a veteran player, you should mainly play against other veteran players to avoid being matched against newbies and smurfs. Your rating change should be most agile in the beginning so that you quickly reach your potential. You should want to feel invested in your account to reduce the temptation to smurf. All of these components should work together to produce a smooth and enjoyable experience. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19208 Posts
| ||
|
Trizz
Netherlands1323 Posts
I see a lot of people complaining about a small player base, unable to find games due to lack of players. Is there a reason for not inviting more or simply making it an open beta? | ||
|
spiff
United States22 Posts
Gotta start the year off right. | ||
| ||
