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On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote: EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from 
Here's the thing about Mind:
He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head.
Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence?
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On May 19 2015 09:39 HyralGambit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from Here's the thing about Mind: He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head. Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence?
i wouldn't bet Mind in a TvT especially if hes coming up against someone like sSak/Last/Sea, he is still mediocre in that matchup so I wouldn't say hes very capable in that regard. People still don't seem to acknowledge that.
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On May 19 2015 09:42 Probemicro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 09:39 HyralGambit wrote:On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from Here's the thing about Mind: He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head. Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence? i wouldn't bet Mind in a TvT especially if hes coming up against someone like sSak/Last/Sea, he is still mediocre in that matchup so I wouldn't say hes very capable in that regard. People still don't seem to acknowledge that.
If Mind can plan and prepare for a set, he'll find a way to be MVP
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Awesome to see something like this for Brood War, thanks guys!
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On May 19 2015 09:42 Probemicro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 09:39 HyralGambit wrote:On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from Here's the thing about Mind: He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head. Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence? i wouldn't bet Mind in a TvT especially if hes coming up against someone like sSak/Last/Sea, he is still mediocre in that matchup so I wouldn't say hes very capable in that regard. People still don't seem to acknowledge that.
Very much agree that TvT is Mind's Achilles heel -- he's probably weaker in TvT than any of the top Terran are in their most vulnerable match-ups, for example, TvZ for sSak and Last.
I don't see that changing any time soon, seeing how his KeSPA TvT win-rate was barely 50%, and now 38% in the current era 
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On May 19 2015 11:37 prech wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 09:42 Probemicro wrote:On May 19 2015 09:39 HyralGambit wrote:On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from Here's the thing about Mind: He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head. Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence? i wouldn't bet Mind in a TvT especially if hes coming up against someone like sSak/Last/Sea, he is still mediocre in that matchup so I wouldn't say hes very capable in that regard. People still don't seem to acknowledge that. Very much agree that TvT is Mind's Achilles heel -- he's probably weaker in TvT than any of the top Terran are in their most vulnerable match-ups, for example, TvZ for sSak and Last. I don't see that changing any time soon, seeing how his KeSPA TvT win-rate was barely 50%, and now 38% in the current era
this doesn't bode well for mind in the long run considering the talent pool for terrans right now is extremely high. already in the Draemong Starleague we have 4 terrans with sSak yet to play in his group (so probably at least 5 terrans, piano is also not someone to sleep on). mind will put himself in a position like the semis, but with so many terrans, he'll inevitably play the mirror and lose. :/
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Bisu #1 in our hearts.
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On May 19 2015 12:04 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 11:37 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 09:42 Probemicro wrote:On May 19 2015 09:39 HyralGambit wrote:On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from Here's the thing about Mind: He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head. Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence? i wouldn't bet Mind in a TvT especially if hes coming up against someone like sSak/Last/Sea, he is still mediocre in that matchup so I wouldn't say hes very capable in that regard. People still don't seem to acknowledge that. Very much agree that TvT is Mind's Achilles heel -- he's probably weaker in TvT than any of the top Terran are in their most vulnerable match-ups, for example, TvZ for sSak and Last. I don't see that changing any time soon, seeing how his KeSPA TvT win-rate was barely 50%, and now 38% in the current era this doesn't bode well for mind in the long run considering the talent pool for terrans right now is extremely high. already in the Draemong Starleague we have 4 terrans with sSak yet to play in his group (so probably at least 5 terrans, piano is also not someone to sleep on). mind will put himself in a position like the semis, but with so many terrans, he'll inevitably play the mirror and lose. :/
The Zergs all have it waaaaay worse: all the those Terrans + Mind.
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On May 19 2015 13:04 HyralGambit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 12:04 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 11:37 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 09:42 Probemicro wrote:On May 19 2015 09:39 HyralGambit wrote:On May 19 2015 08:53 prech wrote:On May 19 2015 06:07 FlaShFTW wrote:On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:EffOrt's shown flashes of brilliance in ZvT, but watching his streams, his ZvZ is not nearly up to par with ZerO and Killer -- he was eliminated from both Terror and Seaside in ZvZ's (by hero and ZerO). Finally, his ZvP is above average, but suspect -- it's not nearly as strong as hero or even many Fish ladderers (e.g. Tasiki and Painter). Same situation as Bisu, hope EffOrt adequately prepares and shines at SSL! I think EffOrt's ZvT is not nearly there yet and I agree that he should not be in the top 10. He was eliminated from the Draemong Starleague by both Last and Mong and winning his ZvP matchup against GuemChi with a 3 hatch speedling all-in which doesn't really show his skill in a longer macro game with more decision making. I want to disagree with ZerO's placement, he was was destroyed by Sea in the Seaside Super 2-0, and failed to adapt to Sea's play (Sea did the same thing both games and ZerO made no real move to counter). While his vP is still one of the best ZvP in the game of Starcraft, his vT still fails to impress me, and this next group in the Draemong Starleague will put him to the test against the best Terran sSak and another noteworthy Terran, Piano. Mind should be third and not second, imo. He has shown signs of struggle in that matchup, dropping a game to Free in a heavily fought series in Seaside, and was completely and utterfly owned by Jaehoon... twice, for a total of 4-0 in Draemong. Is not even being able to take a game off Jaehoon in two series really deserving of the number 2 spot? Sure his other matchups seem solid right now, but this can be abused if he's matched up against Protosses. All in all, here's my personal list: sSak, Bisu, Mind, Last, Sea, ZerO, free, Mong, herO. I don't really have a 10th in mind yet, but if I had to give it to someone, I might give it to EffOrt Very much agree about ZerO -- we put much of this ranking together ~a month ago and since then, he's disappointed a bit with several losses against Sea. Re-watching his vs Sea matches during Terror SL, ZerO looked quite unprepared for proxy plays and wraith rushes... I can certainly see your point of dropping him a bit in the rankings, but let's see if he prepares more for SSL 11! Mind definitely disappointed with those recent TvP games at the online tourneys, but he played admirably against Bisu during Terror SL on Aztec. Top 3 is a toss-up and I very much see where you're coming from Here's the thing about Mind: He's capable of beating anyone. Ever since his MSL victory over Bisu, that's his darkhorse reputation. Even if you don't consider him the favorite in a tournament, he's always in the back of your head. Out of all the Afreeca Terrans, Mind has the most prestige out all the other Terrans being an MSL champion. His years of experience makes up for his somewhat low apm. He's kind of like a reverse-Last in that sense: Last is an apm/macro machine and a rising star, Mind is an old guard who can still kick ass after all these years. Which is more important in a tournament scenario? Agility or Intelligence? i wouldn't bet Mind in a TvT especially if hes coming up against someone like sSak/Last/Sea, he is still mediocre in that matchup so I wouldn't say hes very capable in that regard. People still don't seem to acknowledge that. Very much agree that TvT is Mind's Achilles heel -- he's probably weaker in TvT than any of the top Terran are in their most vulnerable match-ups, for example, TvZ for sSak and Last. I don't see that changing any time soon, seeing how his KeSPA TvT win-rate was barely 50%, and now 38% in the current era this doesn't bode well for mind in the long run considering the talent pool for terrans right now is extremely high. already in the Draemong Starleague we have 4 terrans with sSak yet to play in his group (so probably at least 5 terrans, piano is also not someone to sleep on). mind will put himself in a position like the semis, but with so many terrans, he'll inevitably play the mirror and lose. :/ The Zergs all have it waaaaay worse: all the those Terrans + Mind.
its just that zerg skill level is just so low. and zerg was always hard to play with anyways. there's no jaedong or in form-effort right now to lead the zergs and show them how to beat terrans
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I'm glad to see Bisu in SSL. Is there a reason why he wasnt in the previous one? I heard he had a sponsorship or some nonsense with one of the sponsors of the KSL.
I can't wait for when SSL kicks into the high gear, it feels too long in between seasons.
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On May 19 2015 05:31 prech wrote:Thanks for all the input, all. Lots of good points, very much agree that several of the spots, like 1-3, as BD mentioned, are interchangeable. We've seen too little of  Bisu in tournament and non-FS play to really gauge how he can perform -- this SSL is a perfect opportunity. Hopefully he practices hard and takes a break from the "bububu" and "boing-boing's" to adequately prepare -- he was watching old matches on New Heartbreak Ridge just last night, so that's a good sign of things to come...
hahahaha making him sound like a baby/loafer
Bisu will destroy everyone!
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A BW power rank - all must be right again in the world.
The rank definitely accurately reflects the recent Terran dominance - hopefully we can see Z/P fight back a bit in SSL 11.
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You have to think that Bisu, Mind, and Effort have the highest skill *ceiling* of the current crop... but, obviously, that's not the whole ball of wax.
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On May 19 2015 16:41 lestye wrote:
I'm glad to see Bisu in SSL. Is there a reason why he wasnt in the previous one? I heard he had a sponsorship or some nonsense with one of the sponsors of the KSL.
I reckon we'll never the truth unless Bisu reveals it, but that Kongdoo conflict could be a reason, or maybe just not wanting to take the risk of competing and taking the time and effort to prepare -- time that could have, instead, been spent streaming and earning donations, while an early SSL exit just tarnishes his reputation/stature. He's already perceived as the 'best', why take the risk?
Likely same reason he doesn't play in all the smaller leagues, I'm sure he receives invitations to all of them...
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On May 19 2015 21:56 [[Starlight]] wrote:
You have to think that Bisu, Mind, and Effort have the highest skill *ceiling* of the current crop... but, obviously, that's not the whole ball of wax.
It'll be interesting, at least from a SSL 11 perspective, to see how ambitious they are and whether they're taking the time/effort to prepare.
If we think of  Sea as an example, it seemed Olympus came in really well-prepared with the map terrain and strategies that excelled on them to earn the victory. I don't know if we can say the same about Sea
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On May 20 2015 02:30 prech wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2015 16:41 lestye wrote:
I'm glad to see Bisu in SSL. Is there a reason why he wasnt in the previous one? I heard he had a sponsorship or some nonsense with one of the sponsors of the KSL.
I reckon we'll never the truth unless Bisu reveals it, but that Kongdoo conflict could be a reason, or maybe just not wanting to take the risk of competing and time and effort to prepare -- time that could have, instead, been spent streaming and early donations, while an early SSL exit just tarnishes his reputation/stature. He's already perceived as the 'best', why take the risk? Likely same reason he doesn't play in all the smaller leagues, I'm sure he receives invitations to all of them...
blasphemy. is his love for the game not strong enough to admit defeat once in a while? flash didnt stop playing when he was at the top now did he?
boooooo if this is the truth take him off top 10 next PR >:C
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Nice to see bw power rank again!
Top 10 seems pretty accurate.
Also, I never really bothered to check how particular players have been doing before liquibetting, but due to my gut, I have almost always bet on ssak, I guess that's the reason why I have been doing fairly well ^^
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wow sea looks so much skinnier there ;3
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On May 20 2015 05:23 ggrrg wrote:
Nice to see bw power rank again!
Top 10 seems pretty accurate.
Also, I never really bothered to check how particular players have been doing before liquibetting, but due to my gut, I have almost always bet on ssak, I guess that's the reason why I have been doing fairly well ^^
I would say the top players rarely see upsets with high liquibets on the line, but disappoint early on in tournaments.
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