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iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
June 14 2014 23:29 GMT
#1
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Hello guys,

If you are interested to play Cash Tournaments - ICCUP is the right place!

We are going to implement a new feature which allows you to register one of these Tours for 5$ or 10$, depending on the Event.

The prize pool will be the sum of the registered players fee, obviously more the players bigger the prizes!

Such prizes will be given in a fixed percent, to guarantee winners getting always the fair amount of moneys in relation of the number of players:
  • Winner: 60%
  • Runner up: 30%
  • iCCup: 10% (Administration will keep a little percentage of the money in its online-banking account for further events without registration fee)

Register, vote and post your feedback on our forum News: Cash Tours with registration fee

Best Regards
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
WhiteKnight.US
Profile Joined May 2014
Great Britain102 Posts
June 14 2014 23:40 GMT
#2
I don't think it is a good idea for Iccup admins to be able to keep 10% for whatever reason.
riqqi
Profile Joined June 2014
13 Posts
June 14 2014 23:48 GMT
#3
i fully support this all the way! awesome idea
:;ddd
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
June 15 2014 00:03 GMT
#4
On June 15 2014 08:40 WhiteKnight.US wrote:
I don't think it is a good idea for Iccup admins to be able to keep 10% for whatever reason.

It says that they'll be using it for other tournaments that don't require a fee. Seems alright if people are willing to pay a fee to earn some money if they win.

As long as people want an incentive like money to stay motivated and keep playing, seems like a not-a-bad idea to me.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 15 2014 00:27 GMT
#5
Really nice work.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
June 15 2014 01:03 GMT
#6
Great idea! I hope this grows.
T P Z sagi
ijustlost
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 02:55:10
June 15 2014 01:05 GMT
#7
best idea ever.... maybe
for the overmind
shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 02:22:33
June 15 2014 02:11 GMT
#8
So you want people to fund your tournament and as a thank you to them you'll retain 10% of the price pool so people can have the honor of playing on iccup's laggy server?

Why doesn't iccup take some of the money they are making from this http://iccup.com/en/store/category/6.html and fund it for a huge brood war tournament... actually why doesn't SC:BW have a proper button on their website navigation?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
June 15 2014 03:54 GMT
#9
I think I will pay for a player to enter and then if they win split the winnings. It will be like having my own champion gladiator!
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10689 Posts
June 15 2014 04:03 GMT
#10
Umm...no offense but...At this day and age, if a person has the $$ to even host BW foreign tournaments, they will be hosting them through there own, or another custom bracket site, since it really isn't difficult, and give the winners more $, or more $ distributed amongst maybe a larger place pool as in 1st - 3rd maybe, this just doesn't really seem like it will work, judging by the amount of cash tournaments that are even hosted in the first place....

Hate to be a negative nancy but....IMO , this won't really work out so well.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 07:22:07
June 15 2014 07:18 GMT
#11
On June 15 2014 13:03 GGzerG wrote:
Umm...no offense but...At this day and age, if a person has the $$ to even host BW foreign tournaments, they will be hosting them through there own, or another custom bracket site, since it really isn't difficult, and give the winners more $, or more $ distributed amongst maybe a larger place pool as in 1st - 3rd maybe, this just doesn't really seem like it will work, judging by the amount of cash tournaments that are even hosted in the first place....

Hate to be a negative nancy but....IMO , this won't really work out so well.


I'm curious what kind of thought process lead you to make this post.

Anyway, two things need to happen for this to be awesome.
1) People need to actually play them
2) ICCup's 10% cut needs to actually be spent on events

Seems like a good effort though.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 15 2014 07:39 GMT
#12
Guys it's a good idea, whether it will be used or not is a different story.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 13:48:38
June 16 2014 13:48 GMT
#13
On June 15 2014 16:18 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 13:03 GGzerG wrote:
Umm...no offense but...At this day and age, if a person has the $$ to even host BW foreign tournaments, they will be hosting them through there own, or another custom bracket site, since it really isn't difficult, and give the winners more $, or more $ distributed amongst maybe a larger place pool as in 1st - 3rd maybe, this just doesn't really seem like it will work, judging by the amount of cash tournaments that are even hosted in the first place....

Hate to be a negative nancy but....IMO , this won't really work out so well.


2) ICCup's 10% cut needs to actually be spent on events



I don't trust those sneaky russians. They let you buy points, which is really bad and proves that ICCup has no integrity.
I like this idea, though. I just hope that the money goes to some one who goes on TL, like Xboi or Face. Some one we can trust.

Also, when Birdie's server finishes, I hope every one moves to that so that we don't have to play on a server on which you can buy yourself to A-. I also hope that we'll have an ELO system.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1662 Posts
June 16 2014 14:02 GMT
#14
it's good but i wouldn't put more than one dollar per tournament. 32 players 32 dollars seems enough for me.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 14:16:39
June 16 2014 14:14 GMT
#15
On June 16 2014 22:48 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 16:18 SnowFantasy wrote:
On June 15 2014 13:03 GGzerG wrote:
Umm...no offense but...At this day and age, if a person has the $$ to even host BW foreign tournaments, they will be hosting them through there own, or another custom bracket site, since it really isn't difficult, and give the winners more $, or more $ distributed amongst maybe a larger place pool as in 1st - 3rd maybe, this just doesn't really seem like it will work, judging by the amount of cash tournaments that are even hosted in the first place....

Hate to be a negative nancy but....IMO , this won't really work out so well.


2) ICCup's 10% cut needs to actually be spent on events



I don't trust those sneaky russians. They let you buy points, which is really bad and proves that ICCup has no integrity.
I like this idea, though. I just hope that the money goes to some one who goes on TL, like Xboi or Face. Some one we can trust.

Also, when Birdie's server finishes, I hope every one moves to that so that we don't have to play on a server on which you can buy yourself to A-. I also hope that we'll have an ELO system.

On June 16 2014 23:02 iFU.pauline wrote:
it's good but i wouldn't put more than one dollar per tournament. 32 players 32 dollars seems enough for me.


Agree, I think buying ladder points makes laddering insignificant. Also, I think that you should pay money for some sort of iccup money points and use those to enter tours (5$ should get you into 5-10 tours). Then they could make some other way to gain iccup money points, i.e if you laddered over 500 games you get points, etc. Further, I believe you should be able to get specialized icons ONLY from the iccup money points. This way people would see a cool channel icon and wonder how to get it, and when they find out they have to pay OR play X amount of games then it will generate some effort/interest into the cause.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 16 2014 14:23 GMT
#16
some ppl sure want their long tedious grind
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1479 Posts
June 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#17
OK... This would be actually perfect if there will be ranked based tournaments.

I mean, I wouldent sign up for a tournament where A+ players are playing because ID know Ill lose the 5 dollars (I mean, I might still sign up and pay the money, but rather less probable if I know 100% that Im not going to win).

It might be tricky in a few ways thou. Once you start paying a fee for enter, the rules of the tournament must be rock solid, and fair.
Even if its only 5 dollars, if due to an unfair rule or decision by an Admin a player looses their 5 dollars, it could mean a disaster for ICC.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 14:30:02
June 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#18
On June 16 2014 23:23 Boonbag wrote:
some ppl sure want their long tedious grind


If your skill level is A-, it's not really a grind. 10 wins (8 on motw) and you advance a rank. You can get your rank to reflect your skill level very quickly. It's the learning that is a grind, as with anything else.

The first time I got to B I had like 500 games played. Nowadays I only need like 80.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
June 16 2014 15:09 GMT
#19
On June 16 2014 23:29 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 23:23 Boonbag wrote:
some ppl sure want their long tedious grind


If your skill level is A-, it's not really a grind. 10 wins (8 on motw) and you advance a rank. You can get your rank to reflect your skill level very quickly. It's the learning that is a grind, as with anything else.

The first time I got to B I had like 500 games played. Nowadays I only need like 80.


i meant relative to the prize money involved

like playing months for 200 bucks prize :D
ZancCo
Profile Joined January 2013
Peru41 Posts
June 16 2014 15:31 GMT
#20
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 18:22:16
June 16 2014 18:18 GMT
#21
Sorry if you guys don't agree with buying ladder points but don't blame it on the StarCraft administration, it really wasn't our decision and it came as a surprise to us as well.

On June 15 2014 11:11 shenlong wrote:
So you want people to fund your tournament and as a thank you to them you'll retain 10% of the price pool so people can have the honor of playing on iccup's laggy server?

Why doesn't iccup take some of the money they are making from this http://iccup.com/en/store/category/6.html and fund it for a huge brood war tournament... actually why doesn't SC:BW have a proper button on their website navigation?

It's only laggy for you due to the nature of internet(it has to travel from Russia to wherever you're living).
The iCCup Store helps keep iCCup afloat on its bills, not make these great tournaments for players to have fun in.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 20:29:53
June 16 2014 19:19 GMT
#22
On June 17 2014 03:18 xboi209 wrote:
Sorry if you guys don't agree with buying ladder points but don't blame it on the StarCraft administration, it really wasn't our decision and it came as a surprise to us as well.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 11:11 shenlong wrote:
So you want people to fund your tournament and as a thank you to them you'll retain 10% of the price pool so people can have the honor of playing on iccup's laggy server?

Why doesn't iccup take some of the money they are making from this http://iccup.com/en/store/category/6.html and fund it for a huge brood war tournament... actually why doesn't SC:BW have a proper button on their website navigation?

It's only laggy for you due to the nature of internet(it has to travel from Russia to wherever you're living).
The iCCup Store helps keep iCCup afloat on its bills, not make these great tournaments for players to have fun in.


I realized that it came from the russian Kremlin DotA administration. Which is why I want you to move to Birdie's server! We need good administrators like you, and we need you free from the shackles of the corrupt ICCup federal government.

I really appreciate your work, but I feel like foreign Brood War is funded by dirty DotA money - russians who bought ladder points . Like a school for disabled kids being funded by drug trade.

Edit: What I mean is that we are piggybacking off of DotA. That game is the reason the ICCup server is up, not Brood War. We have great individuals who do a great job, but I don't think we benefit anything from the main ICCup body except for a server.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 16 2014 19:24 GMT
#23
C'mon guys, don't be mean. Sziky needs this money.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary955 Posts
June 16 2014 20:58 GMT
#24
good! just need players to sign in!
agentzimp
TL+ Member
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 21:16:15
June 16 2014 21:11 GMT
#25
edit: nothing
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
June 16 2014 23:06 GMT
#26
vOdToasT, first of all this Birdie's server needs to exist.
yo~.~
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
June 17 2014 00:12 GMT
#27
hope to see more tours from iccup
ace hwaiting!!
iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 03:45:36
June 17 2014 03:12 GMT
#28
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special Icon Feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 17 2014 03:36 GMT
#29
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


Show nested quote +
ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


So I can ask for a special icon with any ID over A- in the past if it's on my history? Also, in terms of buying icons, I was thinking if you guys added more or you could modify your own (i.e like the clan tag icons)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
June 17 2014 03:41 GMT
#30
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


Show nested quote +
ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 17 2014 04:11 GMT
#31
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Slow process... He is trying to do a trial for 1$, you can buy a drink at mcdonalds for the same price, if you don't want to play you don't have to pay. However, I am curious if you can do something to gain iccup dollars (i.e, event/accomplishments such as play 1000games = 50 iccup dollars or something, winners of icc-cl get some prize, etc). Nobody is trying to get rich from BW because it won't happen (unless you are a korean streamer) so any free money is always appreciated to those who will game anyway.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
June 17 2014 04:21 GMT
#32
On June 17 2014 13:11 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Slow process... He is trying to do a trial for 1$, you can buy a drink at mcdonalds for the same price, if you don't want to play you don't have to pay. However, I am curious if you can do something to gain iccup dollars (i.e, event/accomplishments such as play 1000games = 50 iccup dollars or something, winners of icc-cl get some prize, etc). Nobody is trying to get rich from BW because it won't happen (unless you are a korean streamer) so any free money is always appreciated to those who will game anyway.



I understand what you're trying to say but what bothers me is that iccup itself doesn't really care about BW. Only the admins from the bw divisions do care. That being said i'm very skeptical giving any sort of money to an organization that can definitely afford to sponsor a tournament but just choices not to do it and still retains 10% of the money that people give them. While they pour in more and more money into the Dota scene.
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
June 17 2014 04:43 GMT
#33
On June 17 2014 13:21 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 13:11 dRaW wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Slow process... He is trying to do a trial for 1$, you can buy a drink at mcdonalds for the same price, if you don't want to play you don't have to pay. However, I am curious if you can do something to gain iccup dollars (i.e, event/accomplishments such as play 1000games = 50 iccup dollars or something, winners of icc-cl get some prize, etc). Nobody is trying to get rich from BW because it won't happen (unless you are a korean streamer) so any free money is always appreciated to those who will game anyway.



I understand what you're trying to say but what bothers me is that iccup itself doesn't really care about BW. Only the admins from the bw divisions do care. That being said i'm very skeptical giving any sort of money to an organization that can definitely afford to sponsor a tournament but just choices not to do it and still retains 10% of the money that people give them. While they pour in more and more money into the Dota scene.

You're mixing the StarCraft administration with the rest of iCCup together which isn't appropriate because of how seperated we are.
You're giving money to the highest authority in the StarCraft administration, and they can't afford to sponsor tournaments nor are they supporting DotA.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 17 2014 04:59 GMT
#34
Sziky should always sign up at the last second haha
ॐ
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 13:23:32
June 17 2014 08:19 GMT
#35
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 12:33:29
June 17 2014 12:32 GMT
#36
I'm a little excited for these tournaments.

:D

I hope they are recorded. I also offer my services as a co-commentator. I am a much better commentator than I am player. I reached B+ as a player, but I swear my commentating is A- at least.

Call me.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 16:15:29
June 17 2014 16:13 GMT
#37
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup? TL has so done much more for the scene worth waaay more than a 1k tourney, And i don't remember that team liquid ever asking money from the community to fund their tournaments and then keep a 10% for themselves.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
June 17 2014 17:02 GMT
#38
On June 18 2014 01:13 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup?


Yes. I'm not going into detail, I got the feeling you're just a bad troll.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
June 17 2014 17:20 GMT
#39
On June 18 2014 01:13 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup? TL has so done much more for the scene worth waaay more than a 1k tourney, And i don't remember that team liquid ever asking money from the community to fund their tournaments and then keep a 10% for themselves.

Iccup has no obligation to follow anyone else's format. Complaing about this is just ridiculous. Iccup has determined this is their best solution to keep foreign BW active on there servers. Regardless of whether it is successful or not, at least they are offering a service. You, as a player and thinking human being, can use your decision making part of the brain and decide if this is something you want to take part in. Trolling and arguing does nothing but trash this TL thread. Are you intentionally hurting TL and their outstanding staff members?
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shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
June 17 2014 17:48 GMT
#40
On June 18 2014 02:20 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 01:13 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup? TL has so done much more for the scene worth waaay more than a 1k tourney, And i don't remember that team liquid ever asking money from the community to fund their tournaments and then keep a 10% for themselves.

Iccup has no obligation to follow anyone else's format. Complaing about this is just ridiculous. Iccup has determined this is their best solution to keep foreign BW active on there servers. Regardless of whether it is successful or not, at least they are offering a service. You, as a player and thinking human being, can use your decision making part of the brain and decide if this is something you want to take part in. Trolling and arguing does nothing but trash this TL thread. Are you intentionally hurting TL and their outstanding staff members?


I'm not trolling or arguing with anybody, All i'm saying it's distasteful for iccup to take 10% from the prize pool. Specially when they do so much for other games and so little for bw.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 17 2014 17:55 GMT
#41
On June 18 2014 02:48 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 02:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 18 2014 01:13 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup? TL has so done much more for the scene worth waaay more than a 1k tourney, And i don't remember that team liquid ever asking money from the community to fund their tournaments and then keep a 10% for themselves.

Iccup has no obligation to follow anyone else's format. Complaing about this is just ridiculous. Iccup has determined this is their best solution to keep foreign BW active on there servers. Regardless of whether it is successful or not, at least they are offering a service. You, as a player and thinking human being, can use your decision making part of the brain and decide if this is something you want to take part in. Trolling and arguing does nothing but trash this TL thread. Are you intentionally hurting TL and their outstanding staff members?


I'm not trolling or arguing with anybody, All i'm saying it's distasteful for iccup to take 10% from the prize pool. Specially when they do so much for other games and so little for bw.


What's wrong with keeping 10% if the money is used for free to enter tournaments?
And ICCup DotA is not the same organisation as ICCup Brood War.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
June 17 2014 17:59 GMT
#42
On June 18 2014 02:55 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 02:48 shenlong wrote:
On June 18 2014 02:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 18 2014 01:13 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup? TL has so done much more for the scene worth waaay more than a 1k tourney, And i don't remember that team liquid ever asking money from the community to fund their tournaments and then keep a 10% for themselves.

Iccup has no obligation to follow anyone else's format. Complaing about this is just ridiculous. Iccup has determined this is their best solution to keep foreign BW active on there servers. Regardless of whether it is successful or not, at least they are offering a service. You, as a player and thinking human being, can use your decision making part of the brain and decide if this is something you want to take part in. Trolling and arguing does nothing but trash this TL thread. Are you intentionally hurting TL and their outstanding staff members?


I'm not trolling or arguing with anybody, All i'm saying it's distasteful for iccup to take 10% from the prize pool. Specially when they do so much for other games and so little for bw.


What's wrong with keeping 10% if the money is used for free to enter tournaments?
And ICCup DotA is not the same organisation as ICCup Brood War.

I honestly didn't know the iccup dota part of the site was even active. Dota2 is a free replica. What are people doing there? Lol. Must be purists like us.
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
June 17 2014 18:02 GMT
#43
There's a lot to the page you don't see. Radio, WoW, just two random examples.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 17 2014 18:13 GMT
#44
On June 18 2014 02:59 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 02:55 vOdToasT wrote:
On June 18 2014 02:48 shenlong wrote:
On June 18 2014 02:20 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 18 2014 01:13 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 17:19 GeckoXp wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Your sources being which? ICCup doesn't really generate profit, neither for DotA, nor for any other title they feature. If you honestly assume that your assumption is true, then why doesn't TL throw a $1k BW tournament off their own money, why did other related portals like WGTour not spend their "profit" on giving it back to the scene?


Are you seriously comparing Team Liquid to a organization like iccup? TL has so done much more for the scene worth waaay more than a 1k tourney, And i don't remember that team liquid ever asking money from the community to fund their tournaments and then keep a 10% for themselves.

Iccup has no obligation to follow anyone else's format. Complaing about this is just ridiculous. Iccup has determined this is their best solution to keep foreign BW active on there servers. Regardless of whether it is successful or not, at least they are offering a service. You, as a player and thinking human being, can use your decision making part of the brain and decide if this is something you want to take part in. Trolling and arguing does nothing but trash this TL thread. Are you intentionally hurting TL and their outstanding staff members?


I'm not trolling or arguing with anybody, All i'm saying it's distasteful for iccup to take 10% from the prize pool. Specially when they do so much for other games and so little for bw.


What's wrong with keeping 10% if the money is used for free to enter tournaments?
And ICCup DotA is not the same organisation as ICCup Brood War.

I honestly didn't know the iccup dota part of the site was even active. Dota2 is a free replica. What are people doing there? Lol. Must be purists like us.


There are more people playing DotA than Brood War on ICCup. I played it there for a while and got to C-, but the community was rather terrible. It was a bunch of raging kids, half of which refused to speak anything but russian, unless it was to flame.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Denzak
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada80 Posts
June 17 2014 18:13 GMT
#45
Is there a reason why there's no more brood war tab anymore? I came across this page by accident

http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/sc_start.html

I think there's going to be a brood war revival... It's a timeless game. Maybe not as big as Korea, but it can happen.
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
June 17 2014 19:00 GMT
#46
I also hope for the revival of Warcraft 2, it was a very good game.

Yeah! Let's blame the iCCup BW administration for not being able to fund a $1,000 tournament by forcing iCCup DotA to give money for no particular reason other than because they asked.

shenlong, provide us with a $1,000 tournament since it is very simple to host a tournament with that much money on the line. Or why not try applying to be an admin, climb up the ranks, and get the job done yourself? Much complain, so doge.
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shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
June 17 2014 21:20 GMT
#47
On June 18 2014 04:00 SynC[gm] wrote:
I also hope for the revival of Warcraft 2, it was a very good game.

Yeah! Let's blame the iCCup BW administration for not being able to fund a $1,000 tournament by forcing iCCup DotA to give money for no particular reason other than because they asked.

shenlong, provide us with a $1,000 tournament since it is very simple to host a tournament with that much money on the line. Or why not try applying to be an admin, climb up the ranks, and get the job done yourself? Much complain, so doge.



I think you misunderstood me, i don't have a problem with them hosting a tournament... It's fantastic that they are trying to get more action for the brood war scene. What bothers me is that iccup is taking 10% from the prize pool. Iccup dota/starcraft they are both one entity *iccup* even though they're different branches....
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 21:27:05
June 17 2014 21:26 GMT
#48
On June 18 2014 06:20 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 04:00 SynC[gm] wrote:
I also hope for the revival of Warcraft 2, it was a very good game.

Yeah! Let's blame the iCCup BW administration for not being able to fund a $1,000 tournament by forcing iCCup DotA to give money for no particular reason other than because they asked.

shenlong, provide us with a $1,000 tournament since it is very simple to host a tournament with that much money on the line. Or why not try applying to be an admin, climb up the ranks, and get the job done yourself? Much complain, so doge.



I think you misunderstood me, i don't have a problem with them hosting a tournament... It's fantastic that they are trying to get more action for the brood war scene. What bothers me is that iccup is taking 10% from the prize pool. Iccup dota/starcraft they are both one entity *iccup* even though they're different branches....


If they host free tournaments with prize money with the 10% as they claim they will, then they are not keeping anything. Everything is eventually paid out to players in the end.

You can distrust them if you will, but you can not criticize their given plan for keeping money, because it does not.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
June 17 2014 22:03 GMT
#49
On June 18 2014 06:20 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 04:00 SynC[gm] wrote:
I also hope for the revival of Warcraft 2, it was a very good game.

Yeah! Let's blame the iCCup BW administration for not being able to fund a $1,000 tournament by forcing iCCup DotA to give money for no particular reason other than because they asked.

shenlong, provide us with a $1,000 tournament since it is very simple to host a tournament with that much money on the line. Or why not try applying to be an admin, climb up the ranks, and get the job done yourself? Much complain, so doge.



I think you misunderstood me, i don't have a problem with them hosting a tournament... It's fantastic that they are trying to get more action for the brood war scene. What bothers me is that iccup is taking 10% from the prize pool. Iccup dota/starcraft they are both one entity *iccup* even though they're different branches....


Yes, you're absolutely right, same way as the TLPD SCII stuff constantly fucks up the LP Brood War part of this page. God, I hate them. Especially zere plastering his nude pics everywhere!

xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 22:19:08
June 17 2014 22:16 GMT
#50
On June 18 2014 06:20 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 04:00 SynC[gm] wrote:
I also hope for the revival of Warcraft 2, it was a very good game.

Yeah! Let's blame the iCCup BW administration for not being able to fund a $1,000 tournament by forcing iCCup DotA to give money for no particular reason other than because they asked.

shenlong, provide us with a $1,000 tournament since it is very simple to host a tournament with that much money on the line. Or why not try applying to be an admin, climb up the ranks, and get the job done yourself? Much complain, so doge.



I think you misunderstood me, i don't have a problem with them hosting a tournament... It's fantastic that they are trying to get more action for the brood war scene. What bothers me is that iccup is taking 10% from the prize pool. Iccup dota/starcraft they are both one entity *iccup* even though they're different branches....

What's wrong with taking the 10%?
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 17 2014 22:17 GMT
#51
More tournament = more BW = happier me.

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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 18 2014 00:14 GMT
#52
On June 17 2014 13:21 shenlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 13:11 dRaW wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:41 shenlong wrote:
On June 17 2014 12:12 iCCup.Face wrote:
  • Cash Tour Feature

    • This feature has been created by the iCCup Starcraft Head Administrators and it's reserved to BW Tournaments.

    • The money will be guaranteed and managed exclusively by the Starcraft Head Administrators: iCCup.s0ldi3r and iCCup.Face, in the most of cases only by iCCup.Face since he will host the Tours.

    • The Tour will be announced via SC Calendar via iCCup server and via TeamLiquid in time.

    • The kind of Tours (opened to all, restricted by rank, restricted by real skills) will be explicitly written in the Tour Page.
      example of non-allowed accounts restrictions for low skilled tours: (applied to all the accounts of the player signed)
      — no previous season records (new accounts)
      — previous seasons recorded with less than 20 games
      — previous season records 1v1 over C- ( > 3999)
      — previous season records 2v2 over B- ( > 6999)



  • SC Points Feature

      The "buy ladder points" feature exists, but it's not only limited to A- like some of you think, it's also limited at top200 which means you can't buy any rank over top200 (it was around C at the end of last season, actually is D+ 2951)
      *will be edited to top100 soon limiting the access to C/C+ in any case (it's less during the season)

      It's good for high skilled players who want to save time and jump the low lvl boring games. remember the max rank you will get is #101 so it's not something makes laddering insignificant.

  • Special icon feature

      Exists, but it's not directly managed by Starcraft Administrators and unluckily iCCup developers are not supporting us very well.
      We were ready to allow users to buy icons for cash giving 50% to ICCUP and to keep 50% for BW events, but we had to give up not having the right support (the main problem is to add custom icons shortly)

      If there are ppl interested we can make a similar feature directly managed by Starcraft Head Administrators allowing you to buy non-customized icons (100% of the moneys will be used for BW events).
      + Show Spoiler [SPECIAL ICONS AVAILABLE] +

      [image loading]


      Players who hit A- 1v1 and/or A+ 2v2 have the rights to ask for permanent special icon.


ZancCo
ok ok this is a good idea but i dont have credit card to donate via paypal , i can do it via bank account , any have a bank account for iccup in peru¿

ZancCo I'm sure you can link your bank count to your PayPal account.


What about a test Tour (opened to all) registration fee 1$ Sunday?


Now it seems like your fishing for $. Why not as a test tournament, ask the owners of iccup that focus so much on dota, to host a 1 thousand dollar tournament with all the money they are making from dota.


Slow process... He is trying to do a trial for 1$, you can buy a drink at mcdonalds for the same price, if you don't want to play you don't have to pay. However, I am curious if you can do something to gain iccup dollars (i.e, event/accomplishments such as play 1000games = 50 iccup dollars or something, winners of icc-cl get some prize, etc). Nobody is trying to get rich from BW because it won't happen (unless you are a korean streamer) so any free money is always appreciated to those who will game anyway.



I understand what you're trying to say but what bothers me is that iccup itself doesn't really care about BW. Only the admins from the bw divisions do care. That being said i'm very skeptical giving any sort of money to an organization that can definitely afford to sponsor a tournament but just choices not to do it and still retains 10% of the money that people give them. While they pour in more and more money into the Dota scene.



i dont know where you got those ideas from, but nobody really makes money tih broodwar nowadays and ICC does neither. I would be suprised if the Starcraft division saw any money from the main administration at all. So, if you play a tournament and give 10% to ICC, your directly funding an event that they wouldnt be able to host otherwise.
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