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Zero and Piano join SOSPA - Page 7

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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 28 2013 22:36 GMT
#121
some zero goodness
En Taro Violet
metzninja
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand626 Posts
October 28 2013 22:46 GMT
#122
On October 28 2013 18:20 quuad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 17:57 Fazers wrote:
Be ready, Killer


This is interesting, to see if Zero will dethrone Killer as no. 1 zerg in Sospa. During their pro careers, there was pretty much no question that Zero was the stronger, right. I think Killer might be better now though than he ever was as a pro.

Either way, gonna be interesting to see them play again!


IMO, Killer was stronger in the last year of BW - basically, after Zero's MSL loss to Flash. Granted, Zero had a deep run in the last OSL, but Killer was playing sick starcraft in all matchups and should have had a semi-final appearance at Jin Air OSL if not for the DQ against soO.

Anyway, so excited for Zero, hope he shows some of that late game flair
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
October 28 2013 23:10 GMT
#123
Eventually this starcraft 2 thing will all blow over and we'll be back to good old BW!
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#124
On October 29 2013 07:36 Stratos wrote:
some zero goodness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgj8wdVI40I


That was one of Hyuk's proudest games, being able to embark in battle with a man truely worthy of his tactics and finer play.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 28 2013 23:17 GMT
#125
On October 29 2013 07:46 metzninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:20 quuad wrote:
On October 28 2013 17:57 Fazers wrote:
Be ready, Killer


This is interesting, to see if Zero will dethrone Killer as no. 1 zerg in Sospa. During their pro careers, there was pretty much no question that Zero was the stronger, right. I think Killer might be better now though than he ever was as a pro.

Either way, gonna be interesting to see them play again!


IMO, Killer was stronger in the last year of BW - basically, after Zero's MSL loss to Flash. Granted, Zero had a deep run in the last OSL, but Killer was playing sick starcraft in all matchups and should have had a semi-final appearance at Jin Air OSL if not for the DQ against soO.

Anyway, so excited for Zero, hope he shows some of that late game flair


I feel like sAviOr is to JulyZerg what is ZerO to Killer in terms of stylistic contrast.

I feel sorry for Bisu though, now he'll never win SSL....
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 28 2013 23:18 GMT
#126
Guys, I'm really sorry for being such a noob, but do any of these sospa games ever get cast in english? My bw-foo isn't really strong enough to decode what is happening on korean casts. I still watch once in a while but have little idea of what's going on.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1769 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 23:22:54
October 28 2013 23:22 GMT
#127
On October 29 2013 08:10 EAGER-beaver wrote:
Eventually this starcraft 2 thing will all blow over and we'll be back to good old BW!


Were almost there
Amen
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 23:56:19
October 28 2013 23:54 GMT
#128
On October 29 2013 06:05 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 05:58 BisuDagger wrote:
How will we know when Kespa tries to absorb SOSPA into their own league?


SONIC IS A TRUE SCOTT. THEY'LL NEVER TAKE HIS FREEDOM.


We'll fight for him.

On October 29 2013 08:17 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 07:46 metzninja wrote:
On October 28 2013 18:20 quuad wrote:
On October 28 2013 17:57 Fazers wrote:
Be ready, Killer


This is interesting, to see if Zero will dethrone Killer as no. 1 zerg in Sospa. During their pro careers, there was pretty much no question that Zero was the stronger, right. I think Killer might be better now though than he ever was as a pro.

Either way, gonna be interesting to see them play again!


IMO, Killer was stronger in the last year of BW - basically, after Zero's MSL loss to Flash. Granted, Zero had a deep run in the last OSL, but Killer was playing sick starcraft in all matchups and should have had a semi-final appearance at Jin Air OSL if not for the DQ against soO.

Anyway, so excited for Zero, hope he shows some of that late game flair


I feel like sAviOr is to JulyZerg what is ZerO to Killer in terms of stylistic contrast.

I feel sorry for Bisu though, now he'll never win SSL....


I have absolutely no problem with more competition. I want my players to compete hard. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 28 2013 23:57 GMT
#129
On October 29 2013 08:18 mikedebo wrote:
Guys, I'm really sorry for being such a noob, but do any of these sospa games ever get cast in english? My bw-foo isn't really strong enough to decode what is happening on korean casts. I still watch once in a while but have little idea of what's going on.

Watch out for future deal between Sonic and TL. Last SSL, we had Sayle casting so there is definitely that possibility.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
October 29 2013 00:21 GMT
#130
On October 28 2013 18:55 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:33 icyF wrote:
So nice to see the old pros migrating back to BW


I don't get it. As much as I love watching broodwar and as much as I love seeing my heroes of old back in their element again. I also can't help but feel sad that they have forsaken a gaming career on an established team with fixed salary to go back to streaming alone in their apartment and relying on fan donations to live.

Am I really the only one with mixed feelings whenever I see an old BW player switch back from SC2 to BW? Glad that they are finally free to do what they love, but sad that they have to give up whatever stability the established teams gave them (which wasn't even that much to begin with).


I think you summed it up pretty good with the: "I don't get it."
Because you really don't.

For one, check the relevant earning comparisons. Which should pretty much invalidate your primary concern.

Pro Korean SC2 stable? Almost no amateurs play the game - BW is still more popular than SC2 in Korea. Viewership of SC2 in Korea is terrible - the players complain of empty arenas. And some of the most popular and successful gamers like Bisu, Zero, will not even play the game, despite teams willing to pay them. Pay even the slightest attention to relevant indicators, and it is not difficult to see where things are going: In an industry driven by sponsorship, in turn driven by viewership, SC2 has failed without a doubt in this regard. The failure is especially glaring, given the massive hype preceding SC2's release (Internationally, but to some extent in Korea as well), given the huge industrial infrastructure (OGN/Proleague/Kespa/etc) that was already in place in 2012, and given the high viewership numbers that BW was pulling. SC2 was essentially force fed to the BW audience, during the hybrid proleague. The audience was exposed, and by and large, chose to avoid subsequent exposure.

Sure, you could be reasonably sad, if SC2 was (for one) a successful/viable game in the Korean Esports Scene (from a business - viewership/sponsorship perspective), but it's not. It's a free market, and sufficiently weak things (e.g. games), should not, and cannot be expected to survive.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
October 29 2013 00:24 GMT
#131
That's the way
uh huh uh huh
I like it
uh huh uh huh
▲ ▲ ▲
Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
October 29 2013 00:42 GMT
#132
yay more zerg. Get ready Sea, the Swarm comes for you.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What I'm saying is that there are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there's also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know that we don't know
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19343 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 00:50:30
October 29 2013 00:50 GMT
#133
On October 29 2013 08:54 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 06:05 Gamegene wrote:
On October 29 2013 05:58 BisuDagger wrote:
How will we know when Kespa tries to absorb SOSPA into their own league?


SONIC IS A TRUE SCOTT. THEY'LL NEVER TAKE HIS FREEDOM.


We'll fight for him.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 08:17 Xiphos wrote:
On October 29 2013 07:46 metzninja wrote:
On October 28 2013 18:20 quuad wrote:
On October 28 2013 17:57 Fazers wrote:
Be ready, Killer


This is interesting, to see if Zero will dethrone Killer as no. 1 zerg in Sospa. During their pro careers, there was pretty much no question that Zero was the stronger, right. I think Killer might be better now though than he ever was as a pro.

Either way, gonna be interesting to see them play again!


IMO, Killer was stronger in the last year of BW - basically, after Zero's MSL loss to Flash. Granted, Zero had a deep run in the last OSL, but Killer was playing sick starcraft in all matchups and should have had a semi-final appearance at Jin Air OSL if not for the DQ against soO.

Anyway, so excited for Zero, hope he shows some of that late game flair


I feel like sAviOr is to JulyZerg what is ZerO to Killer in terms of stylistic contrast.

I feel sorry for Bisu though, now he'll never win SSL....


I have absolutely no problem with more competition. I want my players to compete hard. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Oh great, another JulyZerg is fat joke. *facepalm*
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
October 29 2013 00:52 GMT
#134
Oh my goodness.. Iam ready for the zerg. I'm kinda sad soulkey and jaedong aren't still in this thing yet. We need more zergs seriously!! I only see hero on well sometimes i see larva or killer but i barely see zergs on snipealot!!....
Life is just life
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
October 29 2013 00:57 GMT
#135
Gogo ZerO!
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
October 29 2013 01:25 GMT
#136
ZerO fighting!!! Glad to see him play still :D :D :D!!!
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
October 29 2013 02:30 GMT
#137
Brood War is getting awesome again. ^^
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 29 2013 03:40 GMT
#138
Comeback of brood wars?!
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 29 2013 03:46 GMT
#139
Wow, if Zero is back to BW I might actually start watching some games again.
ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
October 29 2013 04:31 GMT
#140
welcome to hell zero <3

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