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juki
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Last Edited: 2014-03-25 02:14:28
October 12 2013 23:08 GMT
#1
This thread has moved.
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Foooky
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia205 Posts
October 12 2013 23:17 GMT
#2
Nice! Thanks for the translation!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
October 12 2013 23:18 GMT
#3
Thanks for this! I recently got back into BW and I've been having a lot of issues in TvT so this is awesome. (as will his other blog posts hopefully)!

Anyone else having trouble seeing the images though?
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Epoxide
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Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 12 2013 23:24 GMT
#4
On October 13 2013 08:18 Qikz wrote:
Thanks for this! I recently got back into BW and I've been having a lot of issues in TvT so this is awesome. (as will his other blog posts hopefully)!

Anyone else having trouble seeing the images though?

Yeah, re-hosting would be nice if you have his permission.
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Terrorterran
Profile Joined January 2009
Peru256 Posts
October 12 2013 23:35 GMT
#5
Awesome!!! Good job
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juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
October 12 2013 23:37 GMT
#6
Updated with re-hosted images
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
yukidesu
Profile Joined May 2012
51 Posts
October 12 2013 23:53 GMT
#7
Thank you
rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 02:58:40
October 13 2013 00:08 GMT
#8
I just checked his actual blog on Naver and... holy shit! He's posting a new thing almost every single day!

Edit - hope the op doesn't mind but I tried translating the October 13th blog post:

edit edit - oh man this is super long idk I kinda gave up... sorry guys.

+ Show Spoiler +


Hello? It's me.

This time I'll let you know how to do 2 rax into 1fac 1port for TvT.

So let's get started!
(This time, the match I'm showing you was an actual ladder game I played)

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I spawned as green at 1.

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My ladder opponent spawned as red at 11.

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First, after the the initial supply depot is finished I scout with the same SCV but specifically go through the center of the map on the way to check my opponent's main in order to make sure I'm not playing against a proxy rax or 8 rax.

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I start my barracks at 13 supply.

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My ladder opponent chose to go 12 rax 12 gas.

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At 15, I start the second CC in my natural.

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When scouting in this kind of matchup, you must take care to only lightly go up the hill in order to verify whether or not there's a Marine at the top of the ramp waiting for your SCV.

It's important to do this in order to verify whether or not you're up against double rax. If both of you are doing double rax, you can omit making a Bunker.

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At 16 I make my gas and hold off on the second supply depot until after my extra Marine(s), all of which I hide behind my bunker.

(If you are able to scout your opponent quickly and early, you can just make only 1 Marine at 15 and then gas+supply at 16)

Even when doing double rax, about the 2nd supply depot->gas thing: it's okay to diverge and go depot-gas-depot instead of depot-depot-gas.

As for depot-depot-gas, maybe you can be more economical by making the Bunker earlier? Your tech would be a little bit slower, though...

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Wow, the opponent is going 2fact.

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And here's my opponent making the subsequent Starport.

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While I build my Factory, I spend the extra money that I find myself having on an Academy. (I only have 2 Marines at this point)

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And once my Factory is done, I hide a Starport in the corner of my main.

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Is my opponent also varying his build? (It looks like we have a Wraith Cloaking race here)

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... But because my scan will be available shortly, I can deal with my opponent's aggression and ward him off.

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I use two scans on the enemy base to see what I'm up against.

With one of my two scans, I see this Factory and I notice with one of them that he has purposefully scattered his tech buildings (i.e. his Factory is far away in a corner of his main). It's important to scatter your scans and never really scan the same place twice.

If you ask me why this is important, the fact that I scanned his single Factory makes me think that he's going straight to Starport. And also alternatively it could also be a sign of a 3 Factory build with some combination tank, vulture, and goliath.

This is the way that you must think and cope with the information you find in your scans.

---

sigh this is pretty long so I kinda gave up.. sorry guys.

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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 13 2013 00:09 GMT
#9
Thank you~~ I've been desperate for some TvT help. Watched all the replays available xx
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
October 13 2013 00:41 GMT
#10
wooooooooooooow this is great
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 13 2013 00:46 GMT
#11
Are there any Z players who have anything like this? It's excellent info
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Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
October 13 2013 00:57 GMT
#12
Nice!

Did he upload a replay with the blog?
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
October 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#13
Nice! This is very appreciated! Amazing translation, very easy to understand and good points. How often do you hear someone say "scan for weak points and attack them quickly?" It seems common sense, but it's really important.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 13 2013 02:14 GMT
#14
awesome! thanks for the translation!
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
October 13 2013 02:39 GMT
#15
Light is playing BW again? Nice to see him back.

This is going to be very helpful for foreign TvT. Lee Jae Ho fighting!
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10744 Posts
October 13 2013 03:23 GMT
#16
Light was always one of my favorite pro gamers, thanks for this, salute to [aLive]. ^^
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 13 2013 03:23 GMT
#17
mother of everything that is holy. this is like the holy grail of TvT

i never really understood how to play the matchup but these are just awesome.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 13 2013 03:31 GMT
#18
wow this has expanded my knowledge of TvT I want more translation thanks juki
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reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
October 13 2013 05:21 GMT
#19
will light be streaming bw? and where is jangbi these days?
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 13 2013 05:39 GMT
#20
Thanks, this is great.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 13 2013 06:33 GMT
#21
On October 13 2013 14:21 reminisce12 wrote:
will light be streaming bw? and where is jangbi these days?

Light is laddering on Fish and has a private stream. Will he stream publicly? Not confirmed yet.
Jangbi has family affairs to attend to. He will be back but will it be next week or next month, I don't know yet.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 13 2013 06:35 GMT
#22
Thanks for the translation!
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 13 2013 06:38 GMT
#23
I love you OP.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 07:54:13
October 13 2013 06:51 GMT
#24
i hope it will help foreign terrans! :D
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
October 13 2013 07:10 GMT
#25
I now see the light.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 13 2013 07:29 GMT
#26
Questions for light wouldn't a mix army of tanks and goliaths be a better combination than tanks and vultures ? Goliaths are beefier and have good anti air capabilities.
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juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
October 13 2013 08:18 GMT
#27
Updated with instructions for downloading replays
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia458 Posts
October 13 2013 08:33 GMT
#28
Thank you!
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 13 2013 08:33 GMT
#29
On October 13 2013 17:18 juki wrote:
Updated with instructions for downloading replays


You are awesome dude and even more awesome is light for sharing terran his knowledge and replays.
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Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
October 13 2013 08:56 GMT
#30
omg omg omg omg omg tvt here I come
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 13 2013 08:58 GMT
#31
this is great. Light <3
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 13 2013 08:59 GMT
#32
Wow Light, I didn't know Light had a blog like that, thank you juki for sharing it and translating it. I'll read that very attentively
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SupportDotA2
Profile Joined September 2013
Japan307 Posts
October 13 2013 09:13 GMT
#33
How is Light's girl now? Does anyone know anything about her?
Kappa
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 13 2013 09:28 GMT
#34
On October 13 2013 18:13 SupportDotA2 wrote:
How is Light's girl now? Does anyone know anything about her?

I heard she has a boyfriend ^^
But it isn't Light
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
October 13 2013 11:40 GMT
#35
Fantastic work, it's great to be able to hear strategy directly from a progamer.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 13 2013 13:29 GMT
#36
i want to read his tvz builds!
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juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
October 14 2013 00:08 GMT
#37
Updated with TvZ 3 barracks timing rush lesson
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 14 2013 02:02 GMT
#38
Fuck there goes my ZvT....
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SupportDotA2
Profile Joined September 2013
Japan307 Posts
October 14 2013 04:57 GMT
#39
On October 13 2013 18:28 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 18:13 SupportDotA2 wrote:
How is Light's girl now? Does anyone know anything about her?

I heard she has a boyfriend ^^
But it isn't Light

Inb4 plot twist: the boyfriend is just a replacement of hauting image of Light in her heart. One day when he learns of that, he will rush to the church where she is going to marry the guy. He barely makes it in time, confesses to her and they run away from the marriage together. Happy ending.
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Kappa
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 14 2013 21:43 GMT
#40
So sick, thanks for translating his TvZ
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 14 2013 21:48 GMT
#41
On October 13 2013 18:28 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 18:13 SupportDotA2 wrote:
How is Light's girl now? Does anyone know anything about her?

I heard she has a boyfriend ^^
But it isn't Light

Light also has a gf
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FlyingSheeP
Profile Joined March 2011
China45 Posts
October 14 2013 22:16 GMT
#42
Thanks, he is one of my favourate BW terrans gogo light
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
October 15 2013 00:36 GMT
#43
nice tvz build and thx for translating~ ^^
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 15 2013 00:58 GMT
#44
Damn this really makes me want to play Terran...I hope someone does stuff like this for Protoss and Zerg too
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Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
October 15 2013 01:43 GMT
#45
A strange feeling in my gut says his next blog would be 'How to lose against a Protoss as Terran'
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 15 2013 02:44 GMT
#46
that tvz timing attack is so next level
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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 15 2013 03:20 GMT
#47
On October 15 2013 11:44 icystorage wrote:
that tvz timing attack is so next level

That shit looks really scary
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 15 2013 05:37 GMT
#48
As I've always said, godly TvZ.


On October 15 2013 10:43 Zariel wrote:
A strange feeling in my gut says his next blog would be 'How to lose against a Protoss as Terran'

No it's not. And btw, Light's TvP during practice is actually pretty good. In the early years of his career, his TvP on live broadcasts was good too. Then he had some bad losses and started to dread playing TvP in live matches and it all fell apart from there.
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TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 06:38:11
October 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#49
This is amazing! I've never been able to grasp TvT, and the lack of material for that match-up has been somewhat painful up until now. Thanks a lot for translating these! :D

EDIT: Just read the 3rax guide. As others have said, it looks really dirty (and effective!)
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 06:28:10
October 15 2013 06:27 GMT
#50
That TvZ build feels kind of dirty o.O

1+ to Light for writing those blogs and to you for translating them!
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 15 2013 09:31 GMT
#51
Thanks so much for the translation. The analytical part of the game is definitely where I enjoy it the most.

On October 15 2013 14:37 Ryo wrote:
As I've always said, godly TvZ.


Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 10:43 Zariel wrote:
A strange feeling in my gut says his next blog would be 'How to lose against a Protoss as Terran'

No it's not. And btw, Light's TvP during practice is actually pretty good. In the early years of his career, his TvP on live broadcasts was good too. Then he had some bad losses and started to dread playing TvP in live matches and it all fell apart from there.


Maybe it's because most of my Light TvP viewings happen against Stork/Jangbi, so it might be a little skewed, but I find that his style is way too passive. He doesn't seem to pressure the protoss well and limit expansions. So he inevitably get crushed by simple numbers when he push out, or get into that bad cycle of dealing with recall after recall.

To be fair, Flash and Fantasy are probably the only terrans who truly accomplish this at a high level. But Light seems to be particularly passive to me.
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
October 15 2013 13:26 GMT
#52
On October 15 2013 18:31 baubo wrote:
Thanks so much for the translation. The analytical part of the game is definitely where I enjoy it the most.

Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 14:37 Ryo wrote:
As I've always said, godly TvZ.


On October 15 2013 10:43 Zariel wrote:
A strange feeling in my gut says his next blog would be 'How to lose against a Protoss as Terran'

No it's not. And btw, Light's TvP during practice is actually pretty good. In the early years of his career, his TvP on live broadcasts was good too. Then he had some bad losses and started to dread playing TvP in live matches and it all fell apart from there.


Maybe it's because most of my Light TvP viewings happen against Stork/Jangbi, so it might be a little skewed, but I find that his style is way too passive. He doesn't seem to pressure the protoss well and limit expansions. So he inevitably get crushed by simple numbers when he push out, or get into that bad cycle of dealing with recall after recall.

To be fair, Flash and Fantasy are probably the only terrans who truly accomplish this at a high level. But Light seems to be particularly passive to me.

I wouldbt figure fantasy for a passive player, especially since hes trying to do run bys all game long as soon as hes got at least 1 vulture haha.
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juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
October 27 2013 08:21 GMT
#53
Updated with TvZ 1-1-1 lesson
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 27 2013 10:14 GMT
#54
Thank you
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 27 2013 10:22 GMT
#55
On October 15 2013 10:43 Zariel wrote:
A strange feeling in my gut says his next blog would be 'How to lose against a Protoss as Terran'

I'd like to lose against a protoss as Light do. :p

Thank you juki for the update !
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6999 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 10:31:35
October 27 2013 10:31 GMT
#56
hey im reading this to just be prepared for zvt.will be also nice some zerg guides no ? ))
thx so much man
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 16:29 GMT
#57
On October 27 2013 19:31 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
hey im reading this to just be prepared for zvt.will be also nice some zerg guides no ? ))
thx so much man

Well, Light is terran so i suppose we may expect tvz guides.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 29 2013 02:23 GMT
#58
On October 15 2013 22:26 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 18:31 baubo wrote:
Thanks so much for the translation. The analytical part of the game is definitely where I enjoy it the most.

On October 15 2013 14:37 Ryo wrote:
As I've always said, godly TvZ.


On October 15 2013 10:43 Zariel wrote:
A strange feeling in my gut says his next blog would be 'How to lose against a Protoss as Terran'

No it's not. And btw, Light's TvP during practice is actually pretty good. In the early years of his career, his TvP on live broadcasts was good too. Then he had some bad losses and started to dread playing TvP in live matches and it all fell apart from there.


Maybe it's because most of my Light TvP viewings happen against Stork/Jangbi, so it might be a little skewed, but I find that his style is way too passive. He doesn't seem to pressure the protoss well and limit expansions. So he inevitably get crushed by simple numbers when he push out, or get into that bad cycle of dealing with recall after recall.

To be fair, Flash and Fantasy are probably the only terrans who truly accomplish this at a high level. But Light seems to be particularly passive to me.

I wouldbt figure fantasy for a passive player, especially since hes trying to do run bys all game long as soon as hes got at least 1 vulture haha.


Fantasy is the archetype of being passive-aggressive in stance in TvP; he certainly favors locking down map control over what he deems as important sectors for his economy and army, but he throws out limited but effective unit groups (thus the emphasis on economic damage and area denial with Vults) to prevent him from getting steamrolled and weaken map presence at the same time. This is why he has poor defense over very early aggression, because it comes at a time before he can consolidate his map presence is fully established in the core areas for his economy and army.

Light in contrast is purely defensive, relying on taking map control through methodical pushes, which is weak against the Stork/Jangbi playstyle of relying on mobility and targeting vulnerable points. Conversely, it is vulnerable to mass macro ala horang2/BeSt, which overwhelms it with sheer force.
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Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
October 29 2013 03:32 GMT
#59
Updated with TvP Barracks-Expand-Factory-Starport lesson
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 29 2013 06:08 GMT
#60
What I love about these reports is that they are kind of LR-ish with peculiar sense of humour sprinkled over bunch of useful information, like pizza.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 29 2013 06:12 GMT
#61
On October 29 2013 15:08 Hesmyrr wrote:
What I love about these reports is that they are kind of LR-ish with peculiar sense of humour sprinkled over bunch of useful information, like pizza.

+He's uploading some FPVs and replies to like every single comment on his blog. It really doesn't get any better as far as I'm concerned.
En Taro Violet
wndr
Profile Joined January 2012
19 Posts
October 29 2013 06:51 GMT
#62
Light is awesome. These are great blog entries, thanks for translating :-)
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
October 29 2013 07:27 GMT
#63
These are so informative, nice to see him go into such lengthy discussion. Well worth the read.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
December 16 2013 00:19 GMT
#64
Updated with two posts on Terran simcity, hotkey management, and miscellaneous topics.
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 16 2013 02:02 GMT
#65
You're so awesome.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
December 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#66
Huh, I didn't know about Zerg's larva movement and mineral booster trick. Shows how much I play Zerg.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1649 Posts
December 17 2013 17:25 GMT
#67
Sick infos. Thanks for translating.
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 12 2014 08:47 GMT
#68
Bump! Still an awesome thread, still hoping more translations are to come.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
January 12 2014 14:21 GMT
#69
i feel like i really should read all of this one of these days
life is balanced, L2P
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 12 2014 17:27 GMT
#70
Thanks for the constant addition. These are very useful to read

On January 12 2014 23:21 skzlime wrote:
i feel like i really should read all of this one of these days

why not make it today?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
January 13 2014 09:39 GMT
#71
just logged in to say thanks.
juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
March 25 2014 02:12 GMT
#72
Moving this to another thread due to per-post image limit.

Please lock/delete this thread.
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
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