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LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
February 02 2019 02:13 GMT
#5341
Flash's use of worker barrier during Armageddon times

A religius person may claim that this is what God made scv and scan for in the first place...
Standard Queens
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
February 02 2019 03:52 GMT
#5342
Sad day today.
Broodwar for life!
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
February 02 2019 03:56 GMT
#5343
the defending with scvs/ and a handfull of units its so good i almost want to cry
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8136 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 05:30:48
February 02 2019 04:28 GMT
#5344
Zero looks like a real adult now, so much different from the scrawny kid with huge glasses that I remember him as haha. So cool that he's back, I basically missed his entire post-kespa career but he was always one of my favorite players to watch back in the kespa era.
Free Palestine
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4132 Posts
February 02 2019 05:50 GMT
#5345
Zero is back from military right? He has been streaming recently. Another strong zerg back in the lineup!
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
February 02 2019 07:08 GMT
#5346
I love how the first thing he said was that his skills haven't plummeted like Calm's did.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
February 02 2019 07:50 GMT
#5347
So happy that Zero is back! The other Zergs don't seem to care much right now and mostly stream PUBG (looking at you JD) or not at all ;_;
Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
February 02 2019 14:15 GMT
#5348
On February 02 2019 16:08 RWLabs wrote:
I love how the first thing he said was that his skills haven't plummeted like Calm's did.


Lol sick burn ! Zero always delivers
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8136 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 17:13:52
February 02 2019 17:13 GMT
#5349
On February 02 2019 16:50 bioboyAT wrote:
So happy that Zero is back! The other Zergs don't seem to care much right now and mostly stream PUBG (looking at you JD) or not at all ;_;


Larva seems to be the biggest zerg streamer who still mostly plays 1v1s on stream. Calm seems to be super popular on afreeca compared to most BW players but mostly plays UMS. It's weird I was watching Soulkey's stream last night but he only had ~250 viewers and he was laddering. I guess he's just not a fun streamer personality-wise? Because he's pretty much the best zerg in korea right now so why don't more people watch him?
Free Palestine
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 18:15:22
February 02 2019 18:12 GMT
#5350
On February 03 2019 02:13 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2019 16:50 bioboyAT wrote:
So happy that Zero is back! The other Zergs don't seem to care much right now and mostly stream PUBG (looking at you JD) or not at all ;_;


Larva seems to be the biggest zerg streamer who still mostly plays 1v1s on stream. Calm seems to be super popular on afreeca compared to most BW players but mostly plays UMS. It's weird I was watching Soulkey's stream last night but he only had ~250 viewers and he was laddering. I guess he's just not a fun streamer personality-wise? Because he's pretty much the best zerg in korea right now so why don't more people watch him?


I cannot say for sure why Soulkey might be a less-popular streamer, as I do not understand Korean. But I do not see him interact with viewers that much. He is obviously focused on being the dominant player of this era, and it shows in the way he practices when he streams. He seems very serious and barely even smiles. Last time I watched one of his mukbangs I found myself wondering why anybody would watch it lol.

Then Calm, for example, plays goofy (imo) UMS maps and laughs, has a good time with his viewers and the people he is playing with. Same for Larva, except he performs a lot of silly antics and tries to make it entertaining in other ways. I mean, all these guys are playing at the highest level (maybe not Calm...) so watching them practice only goes so far when it comes to retaining viewership.

QUICK EDIT - It is also worth mentioning that a player like Calm had a pre-existing fanbase from his more glorious OSL and MSL days. Whereas Soulkey might not have that loyal following. I feel this is worth mentioning.
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-02 22:43:47
February 02 2019 22:41 GMT
#5351
Calm is popular because he's hilarious, and his Random Ability Craft (popular UMS) games really took off. Calm, Shuttle, Where, and Effort were dubbed "Ranvengers" and played together the most. These days it looks like Snow is taking Shuttle's place.

And yeah for Soulkey he has a reputation for being very dull and boring. Skilled, yes, but not as funny as others. Mini has a similar problem as our Etemon look-a-like.

Speaking of Soulkey on his channel (Byuktube) he has videos of testing Zero's current skill level by watching him play against Horang2 and Light. Zero's actually not bad, and honestly he could return to his former skills pretty quickly. I'd link it myself but I'm on mobile.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51490 Posts
February 03 2019 03:55 GMT
#5352

Commentator
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 07:10:56
February 03 2019 06:50 GMT
#5353
Anyone has Zero Youtube channel link? I saw it on his stream but it's all korean

edit: found it!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZHBZUrLKMoL6FxpvdRzhKA
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8440 Posts
February 03 2019 11:08 GMT
#5354
Thank you for youtube channel of zero
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 17:55:47
February 03 2019 17:50 GMT
#5355
Larva and Stork are battling it out on Overwatch and Cross Game right now!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
February 03 2019 17:59 GMT
#5356
Seems like the kors like playing on Cross Game/Overwatch, i see them running koths on those 2 maps for hours.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
February 03 2019 18:25 GMT
#5357
Larva is losing a lot of those games ha! I love seeing Stork play well for some reason. Maybe it is because he has been doing so shit in tournament lately. I hope this Protoss metashift into Dark Archon gives him the tools he needs to compete at the highest level again.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-03 18:32:48
February 03 2019 18:31 GMT
#5358
Cross Game is def P favored vs Z. A lot of angles to attack from, easy to move army around and bases are easy to take/secure. Still not sure about Overwatch tho, high ground expos are troublesome vs Z, easy to sunk/lurk D bases. P can always split map and play defensive with reavs tho.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
February 03 2019 18:54 GMT
#5359
On February 04 2019 03:31 TT1 wrote:
Cross Game is def P favored vs Z. A lot of angles to attack from, easy to move army around and bases are easy to take/secure. Still not sure about Overwatch tho, high ground expos are troublesome vs Z, easy to sunk/lurk D bases. P can always split map and play defensive with reavs tho.


Yes, I feel that Cross Game is better for Protoss against Zerg after watching the pros play it out. I agree, there are simply too many angles of attack for the Z to defend them all effectively. I find this map quite boring to be honest. The position of the mineral-only bases are weird as well.

When I see those plateaus close to the second expansions on Overwatch, I immediately think "Hmm, that looks like a pretty niiiiice place to siege up some Tanks". That skinny bridge being the only other avenue out of your natural expansion makes it look like contain strategies will be strong here. I have not played it as Terran yet. Can you hit that third base from the plateau with tanks easily? Does anybody know?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
February 03 2019 19:02 GMT
#5360
I think P wants to go carriers vs T on Overwatch, going arb might be hard to pull off.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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