• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:51
CEST 23:51
KST 06:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster11Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2
StarCraft 2
General
HSC 27 players & groups The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster Jumy Talks: Dedication to SC2 in 2025, & more... Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)
Tourneys
SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series EWC 2025 Online Qualifiers (May 28-June 1, June 21-22) Monday Nights Weeklies WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House
Brood War
General
Where is effort ? Pro gamer house photos ASL20 Preliminary Maps Soma Explains: JaeDong's Defense vs Bisu BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - WB Finals & LBR3 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - LB Round 4 & 5 [ASL19] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Social coupon sites UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Pro Gamers Cope with Str…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1212 users

BW General Discussion - Page 205

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 203 204 205 206 207 482 Next
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 07 2017 17:50 GMT
#4081
On September 05 2017 12:56 Kau wrote:
As a Zerg, I can just press 's' and 'd' to make 3 drones for every 2 key presses, which gives me an apm advantage over Protoss, so I am okay with them changing probe to 's' because they still need 3 key presses to build 3 probes.


What kind of noob waits until 3 larvas to build drones
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 08 2017 22:36 GMT
#4082
On September 08 2017 02:50 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 12:56 Kau wrote:
As a Zerg, I can just press 's' and 'd' to make 3 drones for every 2 key presses, which gives me an apm advantage over Protoss, so I am okay with them changing probe to 's' because they still need 3 key presses to build 3 probes.


What kind of noob waits until 3 larvas to build drones


kau bad macro confirmed
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 09:14:05
September 09 2017 09:13 GMT
#4083
I'm sad to see the lack of Zerg streamers at this hour BibleThump
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10000 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 09:22:18
September 09 2017 09:21 GMT
#4084
edit: nvm
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
September 09 2017 09:22 GMT
#4085
Why is everyone discussing if it makes the individual player better when they change their hotkeys? Of course the game get's more comfortable, and you make less mistakes with some hotkeys, or you even have more apm to do other stuff. However, the ONLY issue that could arise is racial imbalance and i don't see why that should occur right now. And as always the community has dealt with this by designing maps that fix the balance between races. So the whole discussion is just blown up in my honest opinion.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
September 09 2017 09:26 GMT
#4086
on another note though... larva does have a cute kid. (assuming that's his)
https://gyazo.com/2c930f546bb72ab7abb52288c67a6fda
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1403 Posts
September 09 2017 09:30 GMT
#4087
He has cool colored beard and cool shades, too.

On the hotkey-stuff:
True BW lowers are SM in this regard, they want to have to press odd buttons and they want others to have to press odd buttons. If you feel differently you have no passion for this game, sorry.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3676 Posts
September 09 2017 10:10 GMT
#4088
I get wanting to stick to the original hotkey layout, I haven't changed anything yet and I probably wont. But then again I actually enjoy using the entire keyboard and moving my hand around.
However, why should I care what other people use? Like did you refuse to play someone from Germany before because there was a chance that they could use s to build probes instead of p? You do realise that anyone you ever faced online could have easily customised their hotkeys, right?
The only people who were actually forced to play with the standard English layout were pro gamers.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
September 09 2017 11:08 GMT
#4089
bw had 2 options. open custom hotkeys or standardize some legalese regarding the features of a legal keyboard. with the arrival of custom hotkeys, we've officially moved from sport to e-sport.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
September 09 2017 12:29 GMT
#4090
If we're going to use sports analogies, I think custom hotkeys would be like athletes choosing to wear them tape things (kinesio tapes) and compression sleeves or not. It:s not like they made the goal larger, the playing field smaller or lowered the basketball ring.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
September 09 2017 14:44 GMT
#4091
On September 09 2017 21:29 c3rberUs wrote:
If we're going to use sports analogies, I think custom hotkeys would be like athletes choosing to wear them tape things (kinesio tapes) and compression sleeves or not. It:s not like they made the goal larger, the playing field smaller or lowered the basketball ring.


Exactly. The only thing that is even discussable is the question if some racial balances will be tilted in one direction by having easier hotkeys. This is highly to be doubted in my opinion, but i wouldn't count it out yet. Maybe it is easier to use some abilities now, or the infamous patrol micro. But we still haven't seen a single sign of something like this happening. So i think it's the most productive if everyone moves on and discusses actual problems (like the unfinished state of Battle.net, ladder map pool etc.). And most importantly: start promoting the game and get new blood into the foreign scene. We can rant and discuss everything all day but that's not what get's us forward.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 09 2017 14:58 GMT
#4092
On September 09 2017 21:29 c3rberUs wrote:
If we're going to use sports analogies, I think custom hotkeys would be like athletes choosing to wear them tape things (kinesio tapes) and compression sleeves or not. It:s not like they made the goal larger, the playing field smaller or lowered the basketball ring.


If you are going to use sport analogies, it's like people complain about football being too hard and needs to be made easier so casuals can compete. Also it's all about strategy.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
September 09 2017 15:01 GMT
#4093
On September 09 2017 23:58 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 21:29 c3rberUs wrote:
If we're going to use sports analogies, I think custom hotkeys would be like athletes choosing to wear them tape things (kinesio tapes) and compression sleeves or not. It:s not like they made the goal larger, the playing field smaller or lowered the basketball ring.


If you are going to use sport analogies, it's like people complain about football being too hard and needs to be made easier so casuals can compete. Also it's all about strategy.


More like people complaining that football players are now allowed to choose their own footwear. Please show me one instance where the game changed and resulted in some sort of imbalanced. I also haven't seen any of the Koreans suddenly mastering the game and playing the 100% optimal mechanics. So what's your point?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 09 2017 15:27 GMT
#4094
On September 10 2017 00:01 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 23:58 duke91 wrote:
On September 09 2017 21:29 c3rberUs wrote:
If we're going to use sports analogies, I think custom hotkeys would be like athletes choosing to wear them tape things (kinesio tapes) and compression sleeves or not. It:s not like they made the goal larger, the playing field smaller or lowered the basketball ring.


If you are going to use sport analogies, it's like people complain about football being too hard and needs to be made easier so casuals can compete. Also it's all about strategy.


More like people complaining that football players are now allowed to choose their own footwear. Please show me one instance where the game changed and resulted in some sort of imbalanced. I also haven't seen any of the Koreans suddenly mastering the game and playing the 100% optimal mechanics. So what's your point?

People arguing against custom hotkeys have no real point and no evidence, all they have is bad analogies.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
September 14 2017 21:44 GMT
#4095
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20759185815

Oh boy, everyone from europe ranked high enough to play koreans often will have a ton of fun I guess. (Just to have the opponent disc on purpose when they lose and don't get any points).
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
September 14 2017 22:06 GMT
#4096
i already have lots of fun, when i reach 2100, i end up playing lagging koreans 95%, i leave in the first 10 seconds of the game. this goes on until i reach around 2000, where my enemies are random C- guys and i quickly ascend to 2100 where this cycle starts again.
my current cycle time is about 5 hours.
best thing is getting the same lagging korean 2 times in a row.
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
September 14 2017 22:07 GMT
#4097
--- Nuked ---
Writer
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6546 Posts
September 14 2017 22:14 GMT
#4098
just played a game,had to play on extra and is terrible.maybe turn rate 10 will be the best choice to please almost everyone except koreans since the creator of wlauncher already stated he is working to force a turn rate 16,the return of low latency hack is happening.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4980 Posts
September 14 2017 22:26 GMT
#4099
On September 15 2017 07:07 Ty2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2017 07:06 Bakuryu wrote:
i already have lots of fun, when i reach 2100, i end up playing lagging koreans 95%, i leave in the first 10 seconds of the game. this goes on until i reach around 2000, where my enemies are random C- guys and i quickly ascend to 2100 where this cycle starts again.
my current cycle time is about 5 hours.
best thing is getting the same lagging korean 2 times in a row.

This is my exact same experience.

Haha. I feel so bad for you guys. :\
FBH #1!
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1403 Posts
September 14 2017 22:41 GMT
#4100
After purchasing and installing SC:R, I find no decent modern map in any of my map folders. Did Blizzard not include a bunch of modern maps into the release yet?

I realize you DL maps to the Download-Folder before you play them, e.g. the current ladder-maps, and you find some in the popular maps folder, but I guess there is no source yet to download more maps manually? What about all the good ol' stuff like HBR, EC, Colo, Sniper etc.?
Prev 1 203 204 205 206 207 482 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 124
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 99
firebathero 75
LancerX 4
Stormgate
Nathanias100
NightEnD22
Dota 2
capcasts86
League of Legends
Grubby3896
Dendi1182
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv10088
summit1g7366
fl0m1655
flusha518
Other Games
FrodaN1355
ViBE173
Trikslyr60
ZombieGrub47
Liquid`Ken8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 49
• davetesta44
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 51
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV629
League of Legends
• Doublelift3639
• TFBlade1742
Other Games
• imaqtpie1199
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
2h 9m
OSC
15h 9m
OSC
18h 9m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
[ Show More ]
SOOP
4 days
SHIN vs ByuN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
BSL: ProLeague
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV European League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Rose Open S1
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.