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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
August 24 2017 15:28 GMT
#4041
Lol Nal_Ra just played an hilarious game in the 5v5 "Twitch vs Afreeca". Will try to find a vod
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 16:19:48
August 24 2017 16:03 GMT
#4042
if you think about it its so hilarious how naive blizzard is i mean they start out battle.net scbw with 1 global server obviously that does not work duo to lagg issues so they split the servers up right..
we have private servers for years for the top tier experts/pros they work because there is no latency issues
than suddenly blizzard is like lets make a global ladder im confused men did they think anything is changed in the internet highway bottlenecks since than?? nope ... blizzard thinks these issues magically dissapear? or that lag suddenly is not an issue when you try to play at high levels whats going on here.. nobody stop to think about how to address lag on a global ladder you simply cant if u allow players that are far away from each other to play against each other on the ladder.. just brilliant move global ladder now u can have matchmaking with the peru or other player you lagg with and not bann them from youre game works great guys thankyou blizzard

it must be fun to leave those ladder games in under 1 minute when its laggy and to take all those loses for games u left because the lagg was undoable.. right at least you can leave the game on a private server if there is any lag and not catch a lose for it. at least you can ban peru or other high ping from youre lobby
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
August 24 2017 17:32 GMT
#4043
Is it possible to play with 1.16 vs someone who is playing 1.18/1.19 (or remastered) ?

Perhaps via local LAN instead of battle.net ?
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 24 2017 17:41 GMT
#4044
No you cannot.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-27 17:30:31
August 27 2017 16:11 GMT
#4045
Has Blizzard given any hint as to when they'll be resetting the ladder? They changed something and I went 1-7 all of a sudden facing much tougher Korean competition, should've tried to hit 2k while the going was easier . Not a bad thing really, except for the occasional game that was really laggy. Against some Koreans it was fine though. edit: Got lucky and dodged Koreans (I assume, at least, they weren't.), hit 2k.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 27 2017 17:14 GMT
#4046
Noticed something odd on US East...rank 1276 has 1600 points and rank 1275 has 2040. Could just be a coincedence I guess, but maybe there is some other explanation.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
August 27 2017 17:29 GMT
#4047
On August 28 2017 02:14 Doodsmack wrote:
Noticed something odd on US East...rank 1276 has 1600 points and rank 1275 has 2040. Could just be a coincedence I guess, but maybe there is some other explanation.


That can't be right... maybe you are getting global rank vs just US East confused? US East 2k rank gets you top 100 for sure. As of now, gets you top 60 or so.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
August 27 2017 17:48 GMT
#4048
On August 28 2017 01:11 Jonoman92 wrote:
Has Blizzard given any hint as to when they'll be resetting the ladder? They changed something and I went 1-7 all of a sudden facing much tougher Korean competition, should've tried to hit 2k while the going was easier . Not a bad thing really, except for the occasional game that was really laggy. Against some Koreans it was fine though. edit: Got lucky and dodged Koreans (I assume, at least, they weren't.), hit 2k.

Could it just be time of day?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28632 Posts
August 27 2017 18:00 GMT
#4049
I think that's a bug caused by changing between global and east without leaving the ladder screen. First you showed east and then it changed to global through you going to some new page of players, or whatever. Something like that.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 28 2017 15:42 GMT
#4050
I've been playing some, it's pretty fun!
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7217 Posts
August 28 2017 16:11 GMT
#4051
Does your mmr carry over if you switch ids tied to your account? For example, can i have 3 different races with different mmrs tied to one main account? Each with a diff username?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-28 16:15:48
August 28 2017 16:15 GMT
#4052
On August 29 2017 01:11 Sadist wrote:
Does your mmr carry over if you switch ids tied to your account? For example, can i have 3 different races with different mmrs tied to one main account? Each with a diff username?

Each ID gets a separate MMR rating, but stays connected to your main account. You can have 3 IDs per server, and if you delete one and create a new ID, the rating will be reset.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 28 2017 16:20 GMT
#4053
July is streaming! Jeez, he looks so much older now.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 28 2017 16:28 GMT
#4054
On August 29 2017 01:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
July is streaming! Jeez, he looks so much older now.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Yeah agreed. Great to see him play tho
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 29 2017 19:32 GMT
#4055
What replay analyzers do people use these days, still BWChart?
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States906 Posts
August 30 2017 14:42 GMT
#4056
On August 18 2017 16:21 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 04:11 sabas123 wrote:
What are the LL equivalency in SC:R turn rate?

I finally ran the tests for this tonight:

+ Show Spoiler [Data] +
All frame counts are from 60fps videos (~16.67ms per frame) of the time it takes
for a probe to begin moving after the click indicator becomes visible.

Blizz Rate 8:
15 frames
14 frames
15 frames
17 frames
16 frames

Min: 14 * 16.67 = ~233ms delay
Average: 15.4 * 16.67ms = ~256ms delay
Max: 17 * 16.67 = ~283ms delay

Blizz Rate 12:
11 frames
13 frames
10 frames
14 frames

Min: 10 * 16.67 = ~166ms delay
Average: 12 * 16.67ms = ~200ms delay
Max: 14 * 16.67 = ~233ms delay

Blizz Rate 12 - High latency:
11 frames
15 frames
12 frames
11 frames
11 frames
11 frames

Min: 11 * 16.67 = ~183ms delay
Average: 11.83 * 16.67 = ~197ms delay
Max: 15 * 16.67 = ~250ms delay

Blizz Rate 12 - Extra High latency:
14 frames
13 frames
12 frames
16 frames
15 frames
17 frames
14 frames

Min: 12 * 16.67 = ~200ms delay
Average: 14.42 * 16.67 = ~240ms delay
Max: 17 * 16.67 = ~283ms delay

Blizz Rate 16:
8 frames
8 frames
11 frames
8 frames

Min: 8 * 16.67 = ~133ms delay
Average = 8.75 * 16.67ms = ~145ms delay
Max: 11 * 16.67 = ~183ms delay

ShieldBattery:
16 frames
13 frames
13 frames
15 frames
15 frames

Min: 13 * 16.67 = ~216ms delay
Average = 14.4 * 16.67 = ~240ms delay
Max: 16 * 16.67 = ~266ms delay

ICCup L2:
15 frames
13 frames
14 frames
16 frames
13 frames

Min: 13 * 16.67 = ~216ms delay
Average = 14.2 * 16.67 = ~236ms delay
Max: 16 * 16.67 = ~266ms delay


Summary of that is that, contrary to a belief which I've seen espoused quite often lately, a rate of 8 is roughly equivalent to 1.16 lan latency (maybe a frame slower, hard to say super precisely without a lot more data). Increasing the latency on turn rate 12 to High seems to increase the variance without meaningfully changing the average latency (but is still faster than what lan latency would have been).


High Latency is faster than Low Latency?

Doesn't seem right
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-30 15:26:27
August 30 2017 15:26 GMT
#4057
On August 30 2017 04:32 iamho wrote:
What replay analyzers do people use these days, still BWChart?


BWChart is the only functional one, but honestly, it's not even helpful to use. Just watch vods and your own replays to improve.
|Terran|
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 11:45:51
September 04 2017 11:41 GMT
#4058
So the ASL lobby says custom hotkeys are enabled. Cool. But I was shocked to see people rushing to the defense of classic hotkeys. "Flash didn't change a thing and he's still dominating". Yeah Flash probably has the most deep and practiced hotkey action in the entire scene. Of course him switching would have probably the highest cost of any player.

Do you really think in 5 years the champion won't be using custom hotkey setup?

About custom hotkeys, do people really think that classic setup has advantages over custom setup? The only way you would gain by sticking with the classic setup is you want to maintain high performance without a transition period that would take time correlated to how much you have deeply practiced the old setup.

I'm quite confident that there are time gains to be had by removing hand movement required for classic setup. No matter your hand position, it's another thing to keep track of in your mind and there's more physical movement because no matter your hand position, the keys are just more spread out so there's more area to cover in the same amount of time.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 11:55:21
September 04 2017 11:55 GMT
#4059
Jaedong is going over map analysis for the ASL4 map pool....god i wish i understood korean, hes emphasising something really important right now with his tone and i cant understand shit
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 12:31:11
September 04 2017 12:28 GMT
#4060
On August 28 2017 02:14 Doodsmack wrote:
Noticed something odd on US East...rank 1276 has 1600 points and rank 1275 has 2040. Could just be a coincedence I guess, but maybe there is some other explanation.

apparently its because when you browse the ranking of a particular server, if you scroll up after a bunch of ranks it starts gathering results from the global ranking instead of that server ranking, so a interface bug

these days I'm getting quite a bit of points loss outside of playing games, my MMR gets changed between two games I play, annoying ^^ it makes it harder to evaluate and motivate from
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