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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 04 2017 19:54 GMT
#3601
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but is there any possible way to find a schedule for sponmatches?

I feel like I keep missing out on a lot of stuff
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 04 2017 19:56 GMT
#3602
On May 05 2017 04:51 Freakling wrote:
It's really just the different attack range. When just moving around they behave exactly the same (moving a group of different workers will have them all move in perfect parallel).

To clarify trying to attack move a worker is like this:
Drone: go-spit-go-spit-go-spit-go-spit-go-spit-go-spit-go...
Probe: go-slizlezlezlezle-go-slizlezlezlezle-go-slizlezlezlezle-go-slizlezlezlezle-go-slizlezlezlezle-go-slizlezlezlezle-go...
SCV: go-bump unto target and stop-try to attack-hmm...target got out of nonexistent attack range-accelerate to go after target-damn, seems like target gotaway-I guess I'll stroll back to my minerals then...

It's the bump into unit and stop part, due to the short attack range, that makes SCVs lose ground.


Ahh, so with a range of 1 SCVs too could do moving shots? I was never quite sure if that was an inherent movement difference or just the range difference, thanks for letting me know
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 22:48:31
May 04 2017 22:48 GMT
#3603
I guess so. Attack animation duration may have something to do with it too, though. Think Archons vs. Vultures: Vultures can be microed a lot better due to their instant attack whereas the long attack animation of the Archon means it decelerates a lot during its attacks, making good moving shots impossible.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 23:28:22
May 04 2017 23:24 GMT
#3604
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 05 2017 00:22 GMT
#3605
On May 05 2017 08:24 Highgamer wrote:
Archons with moving-shot...

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I mean they already can do it, just pretty shittily, sometimes very rarely you see it used against Mutas (atleast thats the only time it happens at any non 0 frequency), to maybe get just a little more damage on them, its pretty cool actually!
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
May 05 2017 04:15 GMT
#3606
omg that video is so fun...
btw can someone confirm this two things to me please, and sorry for my extrene ignorance:
1) Diagonal Carriers = Carriers on pvt when crossed positions (only) on 4 player map, right? if so, does it has to be from 2 bases?
2) Barrack Double is...? At first i thought 2 barracks but I don't see that making any sense giving the context


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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
May 05 2017 04:47 GMT
#3607
On May 05 2017 13:15 LocoBolon wrote:
omg that video is so fun...
btw can someone confirm this two things to me please, and sorry for my extrene ignorance:
1) Diagonal Carriers = Carriers on pvt when crossed positions (only) on 4 player map, right? if so, does it has to be from 2 bases?
2) Barrack Double is...? At first i thought 2 barracks but I don't see that making any sense giving the context

1) I don't know exactly what he meant, but cross position Carriers can be deadly on any map, even when not a 2-base timing. Actually, I think Carriers tend to work much better these days with a better economy than with the earliest possible timing.
2) Usually called Rax CC by foreigners.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 05 2017 22:18 GMT
#3608
Has OGN made any comments about what they plan on doing with BW in the future?

Their last tournament had a tiny live crowd, but the conditions for a live audience were kinda bad, and the youtube videos have quite a few views, so I am hoping it was still overall successfull enough?
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 23:54:52
May 05 2017 23:50 GMT
#3609
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 23:59 GMT
#3610
On May 05 2017 13:15 LocoBolon wrote:
1) Diagonal Carriers = Carriers on pvt when crossed positions (only) on 4 player map, right? if so, does it has to be from 2 bases?

I think they actually mean 3 base carriers on cross positions, there is an old game with Scan beating this Game
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
May 06 2017 00:08 GMT
#3611
On May 06 2017 07:18 Arvendilin wrote:
Has OGN made any comments about what they plan on doing with BW in the future?

Their last tournament had a tiny live crowd, but the conditions for a live audience were kinda bad, and the youtube videos have quite a few views, so I am hoping it was still overall successfull enough?


Biding their time for Remastered.
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 00:36:21
May 06 2017 00:36 GMT
#3612
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
May 06 2017 06:36 GMT
#3613
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why is it BS? Sounds very likely what actually would happen.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
May 06 2017 06:57 GMT
#3614
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol

That's believable, if there's a problem with the resolution, you'd be wanting everyone to be forced to use the same, but if an option there you're gonna take it.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 06 2017 07:45 GMT
#3615
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 08:32:38
May 06 2017 08:32 GMT
#3616
On May 05 2017 04:54 Arvendilin wrote:
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but is there any possible way to find a schedule for sponmatches?

I feel like I keep missing out on a lot of stuff


there isn't a schedule, its literally fans paying players to play against each other if they're both online.
as to why its called 'sponsored matches'
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 06 2017 09:42 GMT
#3617
On May 06 2017 17:32 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 04:54 Arvendilin wrote:
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but is there any possible way to find a schedule for sponmatches?

I feel like I keep missing out on a lot of stuff


there isn't a schedule, its literally fans paying players to play against each other if they're both online.
as to why its called 'sponsored matches'

Ahh I thought maybe fans would be setting that up a bit in advance but its literally just in the moment donations!
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 10:04:41
May 06 2017 10:01 GMT
#3618
On May 06 2017 16:45 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...


it does not sound believable it sounds like complete BS because threy quote a progamer saying ''no, we cant do this 16: 9 '')
so right here is some progamer who played bw hardcore for 15years 4:3 and now he is like oh 16: 9 seems fun guys lets play that haha no sorry doesnt work that way

....just picture FlaSh being all of a sudden hey guys i like 16: 9 i switch now hahaha


edit well maybe if it was some lowtier sc2 pro or something i can imagine they would not mind that much 16: 9 but the whole story doesnt make sense at all
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 13:36:22
May 06 2017 13:35 GMT
#3619
On May 06 2017 19:01 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 16:45 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...


it does not sound believable it sounds like complete BS because threy quote a progamer saying ''no, we cant do this 16: 9 '')
so right here is some progamer who played bw hardcore for 15years 4:3 and now he is like oh 16: 9 seems fun guys lets play that haha no sorry doesnt work that way

....just picture FlaSh being all of a sudden hey guys i like 16: 9 i switch now hahaha


edit well maybe if it was some lowtier sc2 pro or something i can imagine they would not mind that much 16: 9 but the whole story doesnt make sense at all


So you're saying pros like Flash shouldn't like using 16: 9? Or just that they shouldn't switch?

I would think it would be an advantage for pros to practice in 16: 9 as early as possible since tournaments will be switching to Remastered ASAP.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 16:58:02
May 06 2017 16:57 GMT
#3620
On May 06 2017 19:01 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 16:45 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...


it does not sound believable it sounds like complete BS because threy quote a progamer saying ''no, we cant do this 16: 9 '')
so right here is some progamer who played bw hardcore for 15years 4:3 and now he is like oh 16: 9 seems fun guys lets play that haha no sorry doesnt work that way

....just picture FlaSh being all of a sudden hey guys i like 16: 9 i switch now hahaha


edit well maybe if it was some lowtier sc2 pro or something i can imagine they would not mind that much 16: 9 but the whole story doesnt make sense at all


Why would Flash have to hate 16: 9 , in what way is 4:3 objectively suprior?

And can you stop trying to bash SC2 all the time, that makes you sound entitled and whiny...
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
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