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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
May 06 2017 17:07 GMT
#3621
Why would he WANT to play in 16 is the better question. They've played in 4:3 for 20 years almost. Assumption on my part, but I don't think even one of them was begging or even spent one second of their day thinking they would need this change.

There's always going to be pro's that prefer to just stick with 4:3 but now they can't because 16 gives an advantage.

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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
May 06 2017 17:10 GMT
#3622
On May 07 2017 01:57 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 19:01 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 16:45 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...


it does not sound believable it sounds like complete BS because threy quote a progamer saying ''no, we cant do this 16: 9 '')
so right here is some progamer who played bw hardcore for 15years 4:3 and now he is like oh 16: 9 seems fun guys lets play that haha no sorry doesnt work that way

....just picture FlaSh being all of a sudden hey guys i like 16: 9 i switch now hahaha


edit well maybe if it was some lowtier sc2 pro or something i can imagine they would not mind that much 16: 9 but the whole story doesnt make sense at all


Why would Flash have to hate 16: 9 , in what way is 4:3 objectively suprior?

And can you stop trying to bash SC2 all the time, that makes you sound entitled and whiny...


i dunno, i assume that familiarity is very important to pro gamers. It's important to me to play on the very same setup every time. I couldn't just switch my mouse, keyboard, monitor or any other relevant hardware piece and still play the same.

We know that Effort (?) was angry with a Starleague setup when he couldn't play on Windows Xp. because the mouse felt different on Windows 7. I guess it's a very meaningful change to alter the aspect ratio. It throws your comfort zone way off.

It def. took me a hundred games or so to get completely used to my 16 full stretched Broodwar. Today i wouldn't be able to play on 4:3.
Broodwar for life!
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 19:50:52
May 06 2017 19:48 GMT
#3623
Why I think progamers would not play 16: 09?
Ha its because it would be cheat in competitive play it would mess up the game /balance and it Will never happen BW = 4:3
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 06 2017 20:27 GMT
#3624
On May 06 2017 19:01 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2017 16:45 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...


it does not sound believable it sounds like complete BS because threy quote a progamer saying ''no, we cant do this 16: 9 '')
so right here is some progamer who played bw hardcore for 15years 4:3 and now he is like oh 16: 9 seems fun guys lets play that haha no sorry doesnt work that way

....just picture FlaSh being all of a sudden hey guys i like 16: 9 i switch now hahaha


edit well maybe if it was some lowtier sc2 pro or something i can imagine they would not mind that much 16: 9 but the whole story doesnt make sense at all

Nah, they straight-up invited TBLS to try out the remaster. I assume that's where they got that blurb in the interview.

But Bisu and Stork were fairly low-tier SC2 pros, so you're not completely wrong
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 20:59:38
May 06 2017 20:58 GMT
#3625
On May 07 2017 02:10 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 01:57 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 06 2017 19:01 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 16:45 Arvendilin wrote:
On May 06 2017 09:36 onlystar wrote:
On May 06 2017 08:50 eviltomahawk wrote:
New article up interviewing members of the classic games team who are working on the remaster.

https://starcraft.com/en-us/articles/20726732

It's a cool read.


wow i got really triggered on this part:

''We showed some pros the game, and they started off playing 4:3. And we were like hey, you can also play 16: 9 ! When they tried it they were like, “No, we can’t do this.” So they switched it back. But by the end of the play session, everybody was playing 16: 9 .''

is complete BS right lol


Why do you get triggered so easily?

This is a cute little anecdote and it doesn't sound THAT unbelieveable depending on which pros they showed it to...


it does not sound believable it sounds like complete BS because threy quote a progamer saying ''no, we cant do this 16: 9 '')
so right here is some progamer who played bw hardcore for 15years 4:3 and now he is like oh 16: 9 seems fun guys lets play that haha no sorry doesnt work that way

....just picture FlaSh being all of a sudden hey guys i like 16: 9 i switch now hahaha


edit well maybe if it was some lowtier sc2 pro or something i can imagine they would not mind that much 16: 9 but the whole story doesnt make sense at all


Why would Flash have to hate 16: 9 , in what way is 4:3 objectively suprior?

And can you stop trying to bash SC2 all the time, that makes you sound entitled and whiny...


i dunno, i assume that familiarity is very important to pro gamers. It's important to me to play on the very same setup every time. I couldn't just switch my mouse, keyboard, monitor or any other relevant hardware piece and still play the same.

We know that Effort (?) was angry with a Starleague setup when he couldn't play on Windows Xp. because the mouse felt different on Windows 7. I guess it's a very meaningful change to alter the aspect ratio. It throws your comfort zone way off.

It def. took me a hundred games or so to get completely used to my 16 full stretched Broodwar. Today i wouldn't be able to play on 4:3.


Windows 7 or 10 had an inherent lag even in lan which made muta micro much harder to pull off. This has been confirmed by some other tl.net members already. Nothing to do with the mouse. It WAS a big issue if you play on that high level where you can basically lose because your muta micro is not perfect.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 06 2017 22:22 GMT
#3626
On May 07 2017 04:48 onlystar wrote:
its because it would be cheat in competitive play

No
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
May 06 2017 22:35 GMT
#3627
Is there a channel that TLers hang out in or anything?
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
May 06 2017 22:42 GMT
#3628
On May 07 2017 07:22 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 04:48 onlystar wrote:
its because it would be cheat in competitive play

No


cheat is the wrong word im saying it changes the game dynamics
and competitive bw = 4:3 that will never change
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-06 23:33:12
May 06 2017 23:32 GMT
#3629
it's going to be up to the players whether they'd want to play 16;9 or 4:3.
actually i made a bet with my friend that most of them will probably stick with 4:3 due to familiarity but i wouldn't be surprised if some played with 16;9 because it just provides more field of view to work with.

it's just going to be the same situation as it is in csgo - a ton of pros still play in 4:3 even though its been proven to provide less field of vision than widescreen, just only because it feels comfortable to them.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1444 Posts
May 07 2017 00:22 GMT
#3630
On May 07 2017 07:35 Headshot wrote:
Is there a channel that TLers hang out in or anything?


If you mean Iccup it would be "op Teamliquid", but normaly you can count the people on one hand - or finger.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
May 07 2017 21:21 GMT
#3631
To whomever it may concern since I cannot skype any of you awesome community members i work with right now, my wife is in labor and i will be preoccupied for the next few days obviously. Wish us luck!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 21:28:24
May 07 2017 21:28 GMT
#3632
On May 08 2017 06:21 BisuDagger wrote:
To whomever it may concern since I cannot skype any of you awesome community members i work with right now, my wife is in labor and i will be preoccupied for the next few days obviously. Wish us luck!

O_o good luck!

Fyi, tl rules state that you have to name the child after the username of the first post on the next page of this thread.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
May 07 2017 21:29 GMT
#3633
On May 07 2017 04:48 onlystar wrote:
Why I think progamers would not play 16: 09?
Ha its because it would be cheat in competitive play it would mess up the game /balance and it Will never happen BW = 4:3


Ok, you're seriously stretching if you think having a higher aspect ratio will effect balance.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28728 Posts
May 07 2017 21:33 GMT
#3634
good luck!! Long live Kerpal!
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
May 07 2017 21:49 GMT
#3635
That sounds like a cool rule.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28728 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 22:16:24
May 07 2017 22:15 GMT
#3636
oh. Next page.
Moderator
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 23:34:26
May 07 2017 23:34 GMT
#3637
lol ya, next page GL BD!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
May 07 2017 23:38 GMT
#3638
See ya soon, JuniorDagger.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19186 Posts
May 08 2017 00:05 GMT
#3639
Good luck, chumps
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
May 08 2017 00:11 GMT
#3640
i wish the best for little Harem
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
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