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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
August 14 2006 11:34 GMT
#261
More FAQs

Why wasn't Xello's victory in the Olympus OSL 2003 mentioned?

Because NGC is very irritating when it comes to mentioning commercial entities. The footage of Xellos crying when he thanked his mum is from the Olympus OSL. The shot has actually been cropped. In the original shot, the word "OLYMPUS" was a the top in large letters. You know, Olympus paid goodness knows how much money to sponsor the OSL. This is the moment they've been waiting for, when their brand name gets beamed to millions of households worldwide on the National Geographic Channel... and the NGC commissioning editor says, "ooo... Olympus. Cut out Olympus. It's product placement. Can't do that."

"But they're SPONSORS." I said.

"No," she said.

So that's problem with Olympus. The problem with mentioning the OSL is that it would again take time to explain to the layperson who doesn't know about the Korean progamign scene. We had a lot to squeeze into 47 minutes!

Plus, that would raise the question: why the hell are you making me watch a documentary about the WCG if the OSL is so great? and everyone would switch to Discovery =(

So all we could do was say that, "he won his first major championship."

Why didn't you interview other progamers and ask what they thought of Xellos?

That's something I really wish I had done, but to be honest, I wasn't entirely familiar with the pro-gaming scene at the time, so I wasn't sure who to ask. We did, however, have a handful of names we considered: Julyzerg and Boxer, especially.

The second reason was the problem of getting these people to actually talk. Their coaches were understandably reluctant to have them come on camera and say that they were scared stiff of Xellos =)

The third reason was time constraints. We went to Korea twice. The first time, we were shooting between 13 and 17 hours a day for 10 days non-stop and barely finished everything. So we found it hard to squeeze in one more interview.

And the fourth reason was we couldn't squeeze those interviews into the 47 minutes we had. Actually, a lot of international players said that Xellos was a fearsome player. Even Grrr said it. But we didn't have space for those soundbites.

Overall, this is one of those things I really wish I had done. Let's see if I can can pressure NGC to do a part two!

Why didn't you say that the Korean WCG is a lot harder than the WCG Finals?

Because then nobody would watch past the middle of part 3. Like I mentioned, NGC docus these days are like Hollywood movies. Would you watch a movie where the main bad guy is defeated 3/4 into the film, and his weaker side kick takes up the last 1/4? That's why Peter Jackson cut the last scene of LOTR from the movie =)

You got something against old people?

No... With regards to the retirement thread, it is true that many progamers retire young. I think it's partly like any sport: a young player like Tiger Woods comes on. His style is different, he pwns everyone. Two years later, everyone starts adapting. If the original player doesn't adapt as well, he'll start losing, and losing bad. Some players don't want to adapt and they retire. Like Grrr.

But also, I think it does have to do with speed and reflexes. fOru, for instance, told us that there are some things he just can't do anymore because he isn't fast enough. The difference is slight, by itself it doesn't guarantee a loss, but it does mean that you're "past your prime".

Boxer is 27 and still doing very well. But in general, that doesn't happen. How many 27 year old progamers are there on the front line?

What's with the point 0000005 seconds?

Okay, we didn't say that, the doctor did =) And he just sounded so cute going "woah woah woah woah woah woah farrrrv seconds" that we just had to leave him in =)

What's with the gazillion fighter planes?

Well, there were a lot of them...

Why is Xellos considered World Champion just because he won the crummy WCG?

Because that's the name of the title. Does it mean he's the best in the world? No... but does it mean he gets to call himself World Champion? Yes, though he doesn't, so nobody laughs at him. It's like the World Series being called the World Series even though there's nothign "Worldly" about it.

If silent_control beat xellos he'd be an overnight sensation?

Well, he DID become an overnight sensation after he beat Xellos, though not quite in the way he thought he would...

Okay, I admit, it was exaggerated in order to show what was at stake, and we based it on the fact that Xellos got a lot of fans when he beat Boxer on TV. But yes, it was exaggerated. No doubt he would have got a lot of publicity for a week and then disappeared.

If the top players only win 60/40, why is losing to silent_control such a shock?

Wasn't everyone shocked when Xellos lost to silent_control? =)


I appreciate these comments, guys. I hope to do a sequel and all this helps me plan for that day and make it better. So criticism is welcome. =)
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
August 14 2006 11:41 GMT
#262
dont worr about it.

wat u did is awesome <3
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
August 14 2006 11:41 GMT
#263
always a bunch of hardasses. ignore em
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4177 Posts
August 14 2006 13:28 GMT
#264
I liked it a lot
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
August 14 2006 14:14 GMT
#265
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
August 14 2006 14:18 GMT
#266
If XellOs needs his mommy. I need my mommy too!



I love you mom! :D

=]
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
August 14 2006 14:20 GMT
#267
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
August 14 2006 14:29 GMT
#268
On August 14 2006 23:20 Wasabi wrote:
yeah, i want to watch Olympus finals now

i've never seen anyone else cry for joy in a starleague before (but I only started spectating after IOPS Starleague)


He cried for the best reason in the world, he wanted to thank his mom. It was funny when they were talking on his house, and he said that, he played in the nights, when his mom was sleeping and stuff.

=P. Very cute the relationship he has with his mother. Very nice ^^;

I <3<3 my mom even more now ^^;

Yay~!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
August 14 2006 14:41 GMT
#269
i really appreciate the Q&A storyteller. i actually felt bad after writing the stuff i did because overall i really enjoyed the program, but wrote mainly about my criticisms for some reason. it was exciting and engaging; well suited for the general public. you've done a great job because now more people will know about the extent of gaming overseas and it might promote a greater acceptance through the western world. again, well done :D
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
August 14 2006 14:54 GMT
#270
I liked it so much I watched it again with my older brother yesterday. He doesn't know much about sc except from what I show him and he said it was a good documentary. It's a shame that it had to be under an hour. I would've liked it to be near two.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-14 15:01:00
August 14 2006 15:00 GMT
#271
FAQ

Should I feel bad for criticising the documentary?

NO

Are you offended?

NO

Are you going to do another one?

I hope so, though it could be for another channel.

What will it be about?

Who cares, as long as I get to fly to Korea!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
August 14 2006 15:07 GMT
#272
On August 14 2006 23:20 Wasabi wrote:
yeah, i want to watch Olympus finals now

i've never seen anyone else cry for joy in a starleague before (but I only started spectating after IOPS Starleague)


You wouldn't BELIEVE how many girls fell in love with him at that moment. Even beating Boxer in a bo3 didn't get him that many fans.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
August 14 2006 15:18 GMT
#273
On August 15 2006 00:07 The Storyteller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2006 23:20 Wasabi wrote:
yeah, i want to watch Olympus finals now

i've never seen anyone else cry for joy in a starleague before (but I only started spectating after IOPS Starleague)


You wouldn't BELIEVE how many girls fell in love with him at that moment. Even beating Boxer in a bo3 didn't get him that many fans.


Oh I believe it. Even I almost wanted to shed a tear for that... it's fucking sweet. ^_^
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-14 17:02:22
August 14 2006 16:51 GMT
#274
lol Storyteller your Q&A rock :-)
A sequel about Boxer + iloveOov would be the most amazing one ever! think about the Master/Student relationship, the fact is Oov is about to win the WCG (imo) just like Boxer did (though Boxer won 2 of them), the fact that Boxer had the most amazing Zerg rival [NC]Yellow and now Oov has Julyzerg as a rival, how Boxer and Oov met in OSL finals.. it was so emotional.. And you won't have any problems finding tons and tons of progamers to say good things about Boxer I think Boxer will retire sooner or a bit later, and people need to see as much as possible about the greatest gamer ever born!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
August 14 2006 17:14 GMT
#275
What happend to foru? He's not in the team this year. Doesnt he get a chance to defend his title?
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
August 14 2006 17:30 GMT
#276
Nope, there's no automatic pass for preevious champions, they need to qualify like everyone else.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
August 14 2006 18:53 GMT
#277
Awsome awsome awsome. Just watched it tonight, with the wife no less. A couple funny points for me:

1) Fisheye saying he was the favorite.

2) The shirt that Giyom was wearing (while he bumped into the car haw haw) now belongs to Rekrul. How did that happen?

3) Too bad they didn't include Androide being BM to ForU at the beginning of the game.
ModeratorGodfather
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
August 14 2006 19:01 GMT
#278
A bit off-topic but... what did Androide say/do to fOru?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
August 14 2006 19:14 GMT
#279
Androide is a spoiled brat...
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
August 14 2006 19:36 GMT
#280
On August 15 2006 04:01 CubEdIn[SoD] wrote:
A bit off-topic but... what did Androide say/do to fOru?


Yeah man, I wanna know too!

And fOru got automatic qualification to the Korea National Finals, but didn't make it past his first match.
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