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zoNin
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 11:34:10
May 22 2013 11:33 GMT
#61
lol whos paying for and running this server, I do support it though!
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
May 22 2013 12:35 GMT
#62
lets all switch to garena
ace hwaiting!!
skate_metaly
Profile Joined April 2012
Romania38 Posts
May 22 2013 12:42 GMT
#63
I played / play on garena
Without a valid anti hacker , or some stats system, it's a lost cause unfortunately.
But creating games is really easy, i didn't thought that on icc is that hard without port forwarding .

Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 22 2013 13:00 GMT
#64
On May 22 2013 16:53 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 16:41 Glioburd wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:33 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
and the corrupt admins

lol.


now they are even corrupt? i bid you to show proof.

Well, technically i dont care, but i wont be playing on a new server until it is more frequently used then ICC. Which isnt gonna happen. TL is a rather small community BW wise. And many people worldwide still play ICC.

Corrupt may or may not be stretching it, but they are unprofessional (like they IP banned a whole city)
In the woods, there lurks..
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 13:20:55
May 22 2013 13:20 GMT
#65
So which is easier? Sitting down with iccup people amd working things out, or setting up a new server and maintaining it for years to come?

I think I know the answer...
ModeratorGodfather
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
May 22 2013 13:32 GMT
#66
On May 22 2013 22:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
So which is easier? Sitting down with iccup people amd working things out, or setting up a new server and maintaining it for years to come?

I think I know the answer...

Starting a new server, if you didn't think that then you obviously havent joined the iccup team yet.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 13:54:01
May 22 2013 13:50 GMT
#67
replace the power ranking with the top ladder people on teamliquid.

also being able to have a pre portforwarded sever would be a 1000 times better for the community and being able to let new people stick with the game instead of leaving it becouse they can't find games
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
May 22 2013 14:13 GMT
#68
On May 22 2013 15:20 TehRei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 14:31 thezanursic wrote:
The only way I see this ever getting of the ground is if teamliquid fully supported the server and would advertize it to the other two bigger communities. Proper marketing of the automated match-making system, a good lunch event, SC2 celebrities playing BW for fun on the new server for the launch event and proper marketing inside and outside of the community (Would it be so hard to get personalities like Day9 and Husky to do a little bit of promotion for a game that they used to be heavily invested in?)

Marketing to the casual side of the community and people who don't currently play BW or haven't played BW in some time is in reality the only way to make this work (with the backing of TL).

That would certainly help, but...

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 14:31 thezanursic wrote:
If the server was branded as the ''TL server'' and if it were properly advertized within the community. It could possibly gather a big enough player-base.

I think this would go a long way towards populating the server. A BW-server managed by TL would be the dream, but a BW-server endorsed by TL would be almost as good (and more realistic). I also believe this would make BW a lot more approachable to new players.
Currently, if someone new to the BW scene comes to TL and asks how to get started, they get an answer similar to this;
  1. Update BW to latest patch
  2. Install iccup-/w-/mini-launcher
  3. Download the correct map pack from the server you want to play on
  4. port forward
  5. If using Windows Vista/7/8, download colorfix
  6. Register an account on iccup/fish
  7. Double-check that your anti-hack and lan-latency work

If it's possible to remove a few items from that list, or to have them available in the same place, that would go a long way towards making BW easier to pick up. For example: imagine if you could log in with your (already created) teamliquid account? Or if you don't have to port forward?

Note that I'm not saying that teamliquid has to be in charge of running the proposed server, but if there's gonna be a new server, communication and cooperation with big BW communities such as TL and Defiler will be key. The closer fan communities and tournament organizers cooperate with the server admins, the better.


I agree with all this. If there was one file to dowload and double click that did all those things on the list, I'd switch immediatly.
Need a light?
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 22 2013 14:47 GMT
#69
On May 22 2013 23:13 Jaevlaterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 15:20 TehRei wrote:
On May 22 2013 14:31 thezanursic wrote:
The only way I see this ever getting of the ground is if teamliquid fully supported the server and would advertize it to the other two bigger communities. Proper marketing of the automated match-making system, a good lunch event, SC2 celebrities playing BW for fun on the new server for the launch event and proper marketing inside and outside of the community (Would it be so hard to get personalities like Day9 and Husky to do a little bit of promotion for a game that they used to be heavily invested in?)

Marketing to the casual side of the community and people who don't currently play BW or haven't played BW in some time is in reality the only way to make this work (with the backing of TL).

That would certainly help, but...

On May 22 2013 14:31 thezanursic wrote:
If the server was branded as the ''TL server'' and if it were properly advertized within the community. It could possibly gather a big enough player-base.

I think this would go a long way towards populating the server. A BW-server managed by TL would be the dream, but a BW-server endorsed by TL would be almost as good (and more realistic). I also believe this would make BW a lot more approachable to new players.
Currently, if someone new to the BW scene comes to TL and asks how to get started, they get an answer similar to this;
  1. Update BW to latest patch
  2. Install iccup-/w-/mini-launcher
  3. Download the correct map pack from the server you want to play on
  4. port forward
  5. If using Windows Vista/7/8, download colorfix
  6. Register an account on iccup/fish
  7. Double-check that your anti-hack and lan-latency work

If it's possible to remove a few items from that list, or to have them available in the same place, that would go a long way towards making BW easier to pick up. For example: imagine if you could log in with your (already created) teamliquid account? Or if you don't have to port forward?

Note that I'm not saying that teamliquid has to be in charge of running the proposed server, but if there's gonna be a new server, communication and cooperation with big BW communities such as TL and Defiler will be key. The closer fan communities and tournament organizers cooperate with the server admins, the better.


I agree with all this. If there was one file to dowload and double click that did all those things on the list, I'd switch immediatly.

would there be a way that the swbi would be able to help set this up??
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
May 22 2013 15:07 GMT
#70
Getting to the point where 1k>concurrent user is tough otherwise whats the point.
Dirtyharry
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany171 Posts
May 22 2013 16:27 GMT
#71
I would play on this.
I was in Ravenholm
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1546 Posts
May 22 2013 16:58 GMT
#72
Useless shit, it will just divide more and more the community.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 22 2013 17:02 GMT
#73
On May 23 2013 01:58 iFU.pauline wrote:
Useless shit, it will just divide more and more the community.

if there would be a port forward it would mean that newer people exetly would stick and thus make it bigger in the end, besides i doubt there would be a huge split if this stuff will be done correctly.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#74
On May 22 2013 15:51 Kiante wrote:
There's a lot of issues with an idea like this. Just for starters, it's not as simple as developing and implementing the technology required to do the stuff on your list, but it's about maintainence. How are you going to deal with hackers, deal with disputes. You'll need lots of staff, clear rule sets and stuff like that, which is a hard thing to find. Volunteers by their nature are very unreliable, so you'd need a really good system to streamline their work or incentivise it. I just honestly am not sure how well this would work, even with iccup being stupid. At the end of the day, it's just me, sayle and stratos blacklisted, not really a huge deal imo (fish is better anyway).

I agree that in an ideal world, a server not run by iccup would be a great thing, but there are significant roadblocks in getting there, and even then trying to get enough people playing to make matchmaking work would be tough. If you are set on trying to do this, make sure you go in with a really well developed plan


I agree, people are too unreliable and lazy. The best thing would have been just to fix iccup like 2 years ago.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 17:26:25
May 22 2013 17:25 GMT
#75
Guys about the port forwarding feature, it's exactly the same as my UPNP Forwarder Plugin so if you can't access your router because it's owned by someone else(work, school, neighbor, etc.) you can't host however the process is just simplified.
There is a possibility of having a host bot for ladder games though
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
May 22 2013 19:58 GMT
#76
On May 22 2013 15:51 Kiante wrote:
At the end of the day, it's just me, sayle and stratos blacklisted,


wait... wut? since when and what for?
Enjoy the game
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#77
On May 23 2013 04:58 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 15:51 Kiante wrote:
At the end of the day, it's just me, sayle and stratos blacklisted,


wait... wut? since when and what for?

well, actualy it are 6 people who got banned, kiante forgot to putslugger pie and me on the list^^

and we basicly got banned for insulting pucca saying giving him examples on why hes statement that he would have good knowlage about each mu was false.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
May 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#78
On May 23 2013 01:58 iFU.pauline wrote:
Useless shit, it will just divide more and more the community.

This
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
May 22 2013 20:46 GMT
#79
On May 22 2013 22:00 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 16:53 Cele wrote:
On May 22 2013 16:41 Glioburd wrote:
On May 22 2013 10:33 1a2a3a[MB] wrote:
and the corrupt admins

lol.


now they are even corrupt? i bid you to show proof.

Well, technically i dont care, but i wont be playing on a new server until it is more frequently used then ICC. Which isnt gonna happen. TL is a rather small community BW wise. And many people worldwide still play ICC.

Corrupt may or may not be stretching it, but they are unprofessional (like they IP banned a whole city)


Word.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 22 2013 21:35 GMT
#80
Keep Brood War alive! I like this initiative. I'll even invest a lot more time in BW than I do in SC2 if this new server were to be implemented.
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