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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 01:30:36
November 13 2014 01:28 GMT
#1381
sheesh guys, give him a break. I think I've seen the same kind of comments everytime this thread gets bumped. Yes, he was over ambitious with this project. Yes, he should've kept us up to date and should've called it off earlier if progress was slow and wasn't going well but as mentioned already, this wasn't going to change the scene in anyway. Those who are interested in playing BW will still continue trying to find a way to play it, whether it be joining games on iccup/fish, with people that can port forward or using other mediums. This would've made things easier but someone who loves the game wouldn't wait 1+ year for a server that didn't even have an alpha.

Though he ended up failing in the end, Birdie at least tried to do something for the scene. So long as he gave it a fair shot (he would know about this one lol), I don't really care that it didn't finish or won't anymore. For everyone saying they are disappointed about it, well, we haven't had updates for over a year (much more but let's say a year). If it was going to finish and he was making progress, we would've at least gotten something, anything so personally, I figured it won't get done and didn't bother getting my hopes up. Good on you Birdie for trying but I think you should've been more realistic or at least not mention the server until you've done enough work on it that you won't just cancel the project. No point in announcing something when commitment could've been an issue.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
November 13 2014 03:40 GMT
#1382
On November 13 2014 09:51 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 09:39 GGzerG wrote:
On November 13 2014 08:04 Cele wrote:
yeah it's sad, but let's cut birdie some slack. He was perhaps too enthusiastic about this project in the beginning and didn't see the real workload. Anyway, the code might be a good thing, when something similar comes up.


I honestly think that releasing the code will be absolutely pointless. If anything maybe people will realize now that the only logical choice is for everyone to play on Fish together. Unless Blizzard cancels LotV and releases BW 3D....

We're allowed to dream.


I just wanted to remind you that you at one point were willing to pay for this server. I do remember things, especially the really dumb ideas. Funny how these "highly intelligent" kind of ideas always appear in close proximity to your nick name, it's like they're growing below it...


Are you anything but a Keyboard Warrior ?


Are you trying to blame other peoples failed contributions on me? lol....

You do nothing but talk
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 13 2014 04:40 GMT
#1383
On November 12 2014 20:39 Birdie wrote:
At this stage the project is going to be cancelled and we will release the useful source code we have. I've moved on from StarCraft and don't have time anymore, and the others are busy as well.


I'm going to go ahead and say this is a good thing. Not that the project didn't complete, but you've given it closure and put it in the hands of the community.

There are some really fucking talented people on this site, meaning that is there is some amount of solid framework there I could easily see the community finishing this sort of thing off, especially if placed into a wikipedia like database where anyone could work on it.

Whether anyone cares enough to make it happen is a different question...but the advantages of a really great server for BW would, in my opinion, be absolutely massive.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
November 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#1384
On November 13 2014 12:40 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 09:51 GeckoXp wrote:
On November 13 2014 09:39 GGzerG wrote:
On November 13 2014 08:04 Cele wrote:
yeah it's sad, but let's cut birdie some slack. He was perhaps too enthusiastic about this project in the beginning and didn't see the real workload. Anyway, the code might be a good thing, when something similar comes up.


I honestly think that releasing the code will be absolutely pointless. If anything maybe people will realize now that the only logical choice is for everyone to play on Fish together. Unless Blizzard cancels LotV and releases BW 3D....

We're allowed to dream.


I just wanted to remind you that you at one point were willing to pay for this server. I do remember things, especially the really dumb ideas. Funny how these "highly intelligent" kind of ideas always appear in close proximity to your nick name, it's like they're growing below it...


Are you anything but a Keyboard Warrior ?


Are you trying to blame other peoples failed contributions on me? lol....

You do nothing but talk

So you got called out for piling on Birdie and your reaction is to put down Gecko as well? "You do nothing but talk" is a straight up ignorant statement when aimed at Gecko.
NAKR`flying
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 13 2014 04:47 GMT
#1385
As for Birdie himself, yes he deserves some criticism. The whole gesture was a bit grandoise for something that wasn't either 95% in place or the type of thing that was going to get completed under any circumstances, and he did drag it out for longer than he should have, especially when he could have released the code and had all the BW players that know how to code chip in here and there.

That said, if anyone really assumed this server would, with confidence, get up and running at any point, and god forbid within the last year...they were kidding only themselves. That's nothing against Birdie, but it's pretty damn rare in general that a person goes out; by themselves, for no pay, and accomplishes something as grandiose as making a server. It's probably happen before, but I'd bet my life on that type of thing being a significant statistical outlier.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 13 2014 04:51 GMT
#1386
On November 13 2014 13:44 fearthequeen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2014 12:40 GGzerG wrote:
On November 13 2014 09:51 GeckoXp wrote:
On November 13 2014 09:39 GGzerG wrote:
On November 13 2014 08:04 Cele wrote:
yeah it's sad, but let's cut birdie some slack. He was perhaps too enthusiastic about this project in the beginning and didn't see the real workload. Anyway, the code might be a good thing, when something similar comes up.


I honestly think that releasing the code will be absolutely pointless. If anything maybe people will realize now that the only logical choice is for everyone to play on Fish together. Unless Blizzard cancels LotV and releases BW 3D....

We're allowed to dream.


I just wanted to remind you that you at one point were willing to pay for this server. I do remember things, especially the really dumb ideas. Funny how these "highly intelligent" kind of ideas always appear in close proximity to your nick name, it's like they're growing below it...


Are you anything but a Keyboard Warrior ?


Are you trying to blame other peoples failed contributions on me? lol....

You do nothing but talk

So you got called out for piling on Birdie and your reaction is to put down Gecko as well? "You do nothing but talk" is a straight up ignorant statement when aimed at Gecko.


Come on dudes. Chill.

No need to add fuel to the fire, you all are better than that. This isn't a LoL forum.

Both people got a shot in, even though both shots were totally unwarranted, would be cool if we could keep it at that. Or at least take it to PM if you two must fight it out.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
November 13 2014 07:44 GMT
#1387
Well as the server will not be forthcoming, I am going to lock the thread for the time being. When Birdie wants to release the source code, he can start a new thread.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
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