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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
June 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#381
On June 04 2013 03:55 CoughingHydra wrote:
I'd rephrase the question to: would you mind your opponent playing with different(easier) hotkeys?

define easier? It really doesnt matter what hotkey setup you use. What matters is how you practice it. Someone like Sziky would still destroy some if not most Grand Masters if they used the same hotkey setups on BW they use on SC2.
Flash should fear Sacsri
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
June 03 2013 19:30 GMT
#382
On June 04 2013 04:08 art_of_turtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 03:55 CoughingHydra wrote:
I'd rephrase the question to: would you mind your opponent playing with different(easier) hotkeys?

define easier? It really doesnt matter what hotkey setup you use. What matters is how you practice it. Someone like Sziky would still destroy some if not most Grand Masters if they used the same hotkey setups on BW they use on SC2.


Yes, which would make him even better than he is right now. Why do people suddenly want to change the core of a 15 years old game that was flawless?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 03 2013 19:38 GMT
#383
On June 04 2013 04:30 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 04:08 art_of_turtle wrote:
On June 04 2013 03:55 CoughingHydra wrote:
I'd rephrase the question to: would you mind your opponent playing with different(easier) hotkeys?

define easier? It really doesnt matter what hotkey setup you use. What matters is how you practice it. Someone like Sziky would still destroy some if not most Grand Masters if they used the same hotkey setups on BW they use on SC2.


Yes, which would make him even better than he is right now. Why do people suddenly want to change the core of a 15 years old game that was flawless?

guessing because they want to make things easier, not sure though. I don't see anything wrong with the current hotkeys since it's easier to remember(first or second letter for units).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 03 2013 19:39 GMT
#384
A lot of progamers use BW-style hotkeys in SC2, and I'd say they do so at no penalty to their play.
It's not even a handicap.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
June 03 2013 19:40 GMT
#385
On June 04 2013 04:08 art_of_turtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 03:55 CoughingHydra wrote:
I'd rephrase the question to: would you mind your opponent playing with different(easier) hotkeys?

define easier? It really doesnt matter what hotkey setup you use. What matters is how you practice it. Someone like Sziky would still destroy some if not most Grand Masters if they used the same hotkey setups on BW they use on SC2.

It would be better to compare two Szikys, one with regular hotkeys and one with changed hotkeys under the assumption that both have practiced an equal amount of time with respective hotkeys. I'd argue the latter Sziky would win in a match between the two.
I personally wouldn't mind at all my opponents using different hotkeys on ladder, since it's just ladder, only tournaments could be a problem.
UPro-BW
Profile Joined September 2012
81 Posts
June 03 2013 19:45 GMT
#386
On June 04 2013 03:33 Chef wrote:
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I just don't get it. Remapping the keyboard via 3rd party is ok, while it is a horrible idea to include this feature into some kind of launcher to make it easier for newcomers to get going?

I don't follow the logic. How does remapping the keyboard make it easier for newcomers? It just adds another thing you have to think carefully about before you can start playing if you want to practice what you will end up using when you get better. The way it is by default, the hotkeys are the first or second letter of the unit you want to build, which is easier for new players to learn. For veteran players, it'll just be really annoying to have to retrain your muscle memory to a more optimal setup. The only person it appeals to is the person who doesn't like one or two hotkeys and wants to change them, but even for that person it won't be satisfying because now it will become standard to have to think about all sub-optimal hotkeys, including the ones you were okay with. It just feels like lose-lose all around for something that is totally meta. Having standardized controls for all users across all servers (even if different languages of StarCraft have different keys), makes things way easier. None of the keys are really obnoxious to hit, you will have to learn the muscle memory whether you remap the key or not, so you might as well learn keys you can use anywhere.


I always hit P instead of O in tvp 200/200 battles
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Gyro_SC2
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
June 03 2013 23:44 GMT
#387
Can we have a report ? i would like to know what have been done? :D
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 03 2013 23:57 GMT
#388
On June 04 2013 08:44 Gyro_SC2 wrote:
Can we have a report ? i would like to know what have been done? :D

I think they are in the alpha stage of the server. Was mentioned somewhere in this thread. Other than that, nothing else that I'm aware of
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
June 04 2013 00:22 GMT
#389
On June 04 2013 08:44 Gyro_SC2 wrote:
Can we have a report ? i would like to know what have been done? :D

We're too early to give a report so the only thing I'm going to say for now is that we've had productive discussions every day.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
June 04 2013 00:55 GMT
#390
On June 04 2013 03:55 CoughingHydra wrote:
I'd rephrase the question to: would you mind your opponent playing with different(easier) hotkeys?

They already do, they're called protoss

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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
June 04 2013 01:21 GMT
#391
On June 04 2013 09:55 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 03:55 CoughingHydra wrote:
I'd rephrase the question to: would you mind your opponent playing with different(easier) hotkeys?

They already do, they're called protoss

zzzzzzzzzzdddd 1a2a3a4a5a6a (arbiter t)


I played zerg for 2 weeks, B+. I am really starting to become skeptical of people saying protoss is easiest race.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
June 04 2013 01:25 GMT
#392
Only because there are a million noobie protosses to 1A2A3A with hydras
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
June 04 2013 01:56 GMT
#393
On June 04 2013 10:25 rauk wrote:
Only because there are a million noobie protosses to 1A2A3A with hydras

Rofl, you mean 1a2a3a4a5a6a. Or for others 4a5a6a7a8a9a (myself). Doing that isn't too easy, on top of all the other things you have to do while playing.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
June 04 2013 03:32 GMT
#394
On June 04 2013 10:56 CecilSunkure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 10:25 rauk wrote:
Only because there are a million noobie protosses to 1A2A3A with hydras

Rofl, you mean 1a2a3a4a5a6a. Or for others 4a5a6a7a8a9a (myself). Doing that isn't too easy, on top of all the other things you have to do while playing.


really? cos i just 1a2a3a and bad protosses lose :<
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
June 04 2013 03:57 GMT
#395
On June 04 2013 12:32 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 10:56 CecilSunkure wrote:
On June 04 2013 10:25 rauk wrote:
Only because there are a million noobie protosses to 1A2A3A with hydras

Rofl, you mean 1a2a3a4a5a6a. Or for others 4a5a6a7a8a9a (myself). Doing that isn't too easy, on top of all the other things you have to do while playing.


really? cos i just 1a2a3a and bad protosses lose :<

Well dang I must be doing something wrong. I always have to deal with soo many hydra in later game. I also think I try to hotkey too many lings... >.>
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
June 04 2013 04:05 GMT
#396
zzz you're probably much better than me

i just get lucky with an eehan before toss has storm
charliexjustice
Profile Joined February 2011
United States42 Posts
June 04 2013 04:45 GMT
#397
I only ever played BGH games back in like 2001 but would totally give this a try if it had automated matchmaking.
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
June 04 2013 05:21 GMT
#398
If you guys are having trouble with this, you could probably ask the guys at Forged Alliance Forever for some help. They have an insane server running there, auto matchmaking, replays automatically being sent to an online server and saved for some time, and live spectating games that have already started. they recently added some new feature that automatically puts you in a mumble server with your team when playing a team match if you check the setting. Pretty sure they have tournament signups built into the interface too. It's also nice that I rarely lag when playing on the server. Ze_Pilot is a really nice guy so he'll probably help you guys out!
charliexjustice
Profile Joined February 2011
United States42 Posts
June 04 2013 07:06 GMT
#399
Thanks for the link to that FAF! Really cool to check out
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
June 04 2013 08:22 GMT
#400
wow, faf looks pretty insane. if we would be able to confert that to bw.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
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