Since the Korean Brood War individual leagues are over, and with Proleague a mere shadow of its former self, the loyal BW fans are left with only non-Korean events to look forward to. Personally, I'm fine with that, as I enjoy all of the "foreign" events. But whenever I log in, the calendar is completely empty, and the only way to find out when there will be a broadcast is to go through the thread of each league or event that might be active at the time, and hunt for the broadcast information. In some cases (such as the Gambit Cup), information about the broadcast dates has been extremely hard to find. Add to that the fact that some of us (for example me) need to do timezone conversions every time.

The Calendar can solve every single one of these problems. In fact, it's why it's there.

It might seem a bit selfish and lazy of to ask for this, but I think the people organizing these events will also find that they will have a lot more viewers if people actually know the broadcast times beforehand.

In short, I think the BW community here would greatly appreciate it if the event managers would update the Calendar as far in advance as possible.

Thank you.

2Pacalypse-

Croatia9539 Posts

September 05 2012 09:45 GMT

I'd like to extend this request, and ask the tournament organizers to PLEASE update their threads. Finding out at which stage the tournament is currently in and links to the VODs is unnecessarily hard in some of the biggest tournaments in our scene...

RedW4rr10r

Switzerland749 Posts

September 05 2012 09:52 GMT

I have to agree. For me it's either luck that I see an event being broadcasted (due to the streamer list), or it is a weekly event like GC that I have to remember myself at the broadcast time. Or, if something other events going to be broadcasted, I just leave a note in my real calender (yes, these kind of things still exist).

So acutally using the TL calender would be very appreciated and helpful for a lot of people, I guess.

BookTwo

1985 Posts

September 05 2012 10:17 GMT

I have a good idea. Having a 'centralised' place for BW will help to see exactly what tournaments are running, when, who's playing etc. In the top bar of teamliquid.net, where it says, Home, Starcraft 2 and Dota 2, why not have a BW portal?

I don't know, I've always thought the idea of a more bw focused portal would help it grow. I'd love to see a C-OSL section, a gambits cup section, a YSL section, a TSL section and so on. There is lots of bw being played, but finding streams/vods/replays can be hard.

Seeing as tl.net is growing phenomenally and is catering to a wider audience, why not keep each section more seperate. We already have:
http://www.teamliquid.net/sc2/
http://www.teamliquid.net/dota2/

why not have a bw one too?

Stratos

Czech Republic6104 Posts

September 05 2012 11:12 GMT

Events in calendar are a must but then again the casters are busy people and maybe can't always schedule a cast days ahead. Also there's the persisting issue with BW events often mislisted as sc2/other (I think this was the case for some of the GC casts btw).

A BW portal that would provide an overview for all the leagues/upcoming casts/replays etc. would be great. The question is if there's will from the TL team to make it possible and enough manpower from our side to make it happen.

brolaf

291 Posts

September 05 2012 12:48 GMT

Yeah as a spectator that would be great, to have an overview of when stuff is happening so I can catch them

[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6999 Posts

September 05 2012 12:54 GMT

i think the scene need more organizers ;; im sure people will enjoy more the events with alot of hype and publicity. not something like ok we have 15 players . the tour start 17 cet friday T_T.

GeLaar

2421 Posts

September 05 2012 12:58 GMT

On September 05 2012 19:17 BookTwo wrote:
I have a good idea. Having a 'centralised' place for BW will help to see exactly what tournaments are running, when, who's playing etc. In the top bar of teamliquid.net, where it says, Home, Starcraft 2 and Dota 2, why not have a BW portal?

I don't know, I've always thought the idea of a more bw focused portal would help it grow. I'd love to see a C-OSL section, a gambits cup section, a YSL section, a TSL section and so on. There is lots of bw being played, but finding streams/vods/replays can be hard.

Seeing as tl.net is growing phenomenally and is catering to a wider audience, why not keep each section more seperate. We already have:
http://www.teamliquid.net/sc2/
http://www.teamliquid.net/dota2/

why not have a bw one too?

I think that considering our current standing here, a BW portal would be way too much to hope for. We've been second class citizens here for quite a while now. The fact is that BW is not where the money is, so any resource TL.net spents on our community would be wasted in their eyes. (Note that the BW section was recently demoted to a position below Dota 2 in the default left sidebar.)

That's why I just made a modest request that at least the resources that we do have at our disposal should be put to good use.

Pucca

Taiwan1280 Posts

September 05 2012 13:01 GMT

Making calender events for times for a cast normally can be foreseen in about 24 hours of cast I'd say. It is difficult to always get a cast time and date multiple days ahead due time conflicts with co-casters in such. But everything said above I agree with.

Sayle

United Kingdom3685 Posts

September 05 2012 13:07 GMT

#10

What's stopping you from putting them on the calendar yourself? There's no rule that the tournament organizer must be the one to submit a calendar request. If you don't see an event on the calendar, put it there yourself.

GeLaar

2421 Posts

September 05 2012 13:29 GMT

#11

On September 05 2012 22:07 Sayle wrote:
What's stopping you from putting them on the calendar yourself? There's no rule that the tournament organizer must be the one to submit a calendar request. If you don't see an event on the calendar, put it there yourself.

I'm well aware that anyone can submit entries to the Calendar. What's stopping me from doing it myself are the reasons I mentioned in my original post: There are a lot of events, and I would have to go hunting for broadcast information for each of them through different threads, and I would have to do so on a regular basis.

What I was suggesting was that someone involved in the organization of the events would do the updating - that way any one person will only have to take care of their own event, and they will have easier access to the information than us mere mortals. Plus, the organizers know about the schedule far earlier than we do, and if they update the Calendar as soon as they make the threads, the event will get far more exposure than if we wait for some good samaritan to come along and do it.

All in all, "why don't you do it yourself" is basically what we've has been doing so far, and it's not working very well. And I really do think that it's in the interest of the organizers to make sure the events get posted as quickly as possible, so is this really asking too much?

Jaevlaterran

Sweden578 Posts

September 05 2012 13:31 GMT

#12

This is true, but it feels like the tournament organizers should do this more than they seem to do.

dRaW

Canada5744 Posts

September 05 2012 13:47 GMT

#13

On September 05 2012 21:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i think the scene need more organizers ;; im sure people will enjoy more the events with alot of hype and publicity. not something like ok we have 15 players . the tour start 17 cet friday T_T.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=365192
I started doing this. I know they have a wiki for it but nobody comments in the wiki. I was thinking about doing team interviews as well as some player interviews but I haven't got confirmation yet.

LML

Germany1792 Posts

September 05 2012 14:46 GMT

#14

The problem is also that the events are usually not added as BW in the first place. I even put BW tags and stuff and then had to keep pm'ing admins to change it from SC2 to BW. That was almost a year ago and I was told they will add a function to pick which game it is for, still waiting for that though;/

Sinedd

Poland7052 Posts

September 05 2012 14:54 GMT

#15

we need more coverage and info about the korean semipro tournaments on afreeca too !

they are really strong and super fun to spectate

TaShadan

Germany1981 Posts

September 05 2012 15:16 GMT

#16

yes please update the tournament stuff more frequently

BookTwo

1985 Posts

September 06 2012 03:41 GMT

#17

I know this might sound like mutiny, but why doesn't someone create a BW portal... seperate from teamliquid?

If it wasn't for teamliquid, foreign brood war would be only a shadow of what it has been and is today. I am not making out that teamliquid is hurting bw is ANY WAY. However I think it's clear that tl.net is focusing on Starcraft 2, Dota 2 and newer games. I think it's a great thing, because the community here is amazing and opening up more doors for users/tournament organisers etc is what teamliquid does so well.

Brood War is different. It is very old compared to these games. It has a loyal, hardcoreish following. It also has many many tournaments still running. Content won't be any issue at all, simply getting people to use a seperate website that is frequently updated with latest results etc.

Thoughts?

Psyonic_Reaver

United States4342 Posts

September 06 2012 04:25 GMT

#18

SC2GG REBORN! =p Kidding!

Too bad battlereports.com couldn't make a rebirth. But the website is horribly outdated.

BookTwo

1985 Posts

September 06 2012 04:59 GMT

#19

Would anybody be interested in creating such a website?

[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6999 Posts

September 06 2012 12:29 GMT

#20

On September 06 2012 13:59 BookTwo wrote:
Would anybody be interested in creating such a website?

but we dont have people to refresh the forums. how u think we got people to make a new website... I think is more important make a strong community first. and progress progress and see