Air Force Ace to disband - Page 16

On July 23 2012 18:57 Khai wrote:
Sad day for e-sports. Looks like the younger generation prefers mindless games.

On July 23 2012 19:14 Ribbon wrote:


The younger generation also prefers PAYING for their mindless games, which is actually the real issue here. SC2's fanbase is a lot smaller than BWs, but they have much more open wallets. If more BW fans were willing to pay what SC2 fans pay, BW wouldn't be in even the tiniest bit of trouble because it wouldn't be 100% dependent on sponsors who drop everything as soon as the brand loses value.

KeSPA seems to completely miss this point, which is why Proleague's probably doomed, even with the switch. No one's paying $20/mo to see Proleague in HD and get VOD access.

On July 23 2012 19:14 Ribbon wrote:


The younger generation also prefers PAYING for their mindless games, which is actually the real issue here. SC2's fanbase is a lot smaller than BWs, but they have much more open wallets. If more BW fans were willing to pay what SC2 fans pay, BW wouldn't be in even the tiniest bit of trouble because it wouldn't be 100% dependent on sponsors who drop everything as soon as the brand loses value.

KeSPA seems to completely miss this point, which is why Proleague's probably doomed, even with the switch. No one's paying $20/mo to see Proleague in HD and get VOD access.

On July 23 2012 19:14 Ribbon wrote:


The younger generation also prefers PAYING for their mindless games, which is actually the real issue here. SC2's fanbase is a lot smaller than BWs, but they have much more open wallets. If more BW fans were willing to pay what SC2 fans pay, BW wouldn't be in even the tiniest bit of trouble because it wouldn't be 100% dependent on sponsors who drop everything as soon as the brand loses value.

KeSPA seems to completely miss this point, which is why Proleague's probably doomed, even with the switch. No one's paying $20/mo to see Proleague in HD and get VOD access.

On July 23 2012 19:21 ImbaTosS wrote:

I would, and always would have.

On July 23 2012 19:19 BrosephBrostar wrote:


But kespa's model worked for over 10 years and is used by most legitimate sports. Are you really suggesting that PPV is the way to go here?

On July 23 2012 19:38 Ribbon wrote:


KeSPA's model is actually kind of odd. Sports like football, baseball, even pro wrestling are free to watch on TV, and make some money on ads, but REALLY make money when people come to stadiums to see games and pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to do so.

We all know that picture of 120,000 fans at a Proleague Finals. Imagine if tickets were $10-$20, based on where you were sitting. That's literally millions of dollars that didn't get made.

The KeSPA model was good up until the exact second sponsors started pulling out. But then all the fans in the world won't help them.

I'm not saying KeSPA should've gone fully PPV. Even MLG turned away from that model. But some way of monetizing your audience lets you live if you have sponsor difficulties (indeed, the whole reason MLG went PPV in the first place was just to prove it was feasible to have an sponsorless tournament). It didn't even have to be OSL/MLG/PL. Go to Kim Carrier's apartment and do a Homestory Cup-like thing, that would've been cool (and helped a little with the cardboard player issue). There was a lot they could've done. But they didn't, because the sponsorship model was working so well and when it wasn't it was too late.

On July 23 2012 20:03 polyphonyEX wrote:
"due to shifts in the gaming industry we had no choice but to disband the team".

I think I know what hes getting on with, but what a polite way to put it.