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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 23 2012 07:36 GMT
#261
Saw this coming, still sucks T_T a national Air Force team just doesn't sound like it would work in SC2.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4351 Posts
July 23 2012 07:41 GMT
#262
Devastating.

They would still have a while left then wouldn't they? The last round of inductees was only 6 months or so ago amirite?
Sucker for nostalgia
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44158 Posts
July 23 2012 07:50 GMT
#263
x.x This is terrible news.

Hopefully those who don't want to retire just yet find other suitable teams ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
mrjpark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States276 Posts
July 23 2012 07:56 GMT
#264
For those that are confused, I'm pretty sure that line means that smartphones and social networks have caused a decline in demand for pro gaming in the Korean military. Before, there was basically nothing to do but train. But I have some friends in the military right now, and you see pictures of everyone just on their smartphones during their breaks. Now, it's train for SC or talk to your family, girlfriend, etc. Not surprised a lot of these guys are choosing the latter.
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
July 23 2012 07:56 GMT
#265
I thought they were doing relatively well with the sc2 transition. Pretty sure it accounts for the majority of their games won in PL... Can't say I'm a particular Ace fan, but still sad to see them go
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
July 23 2012 07:57 GMT
#266
Who didnt see this coming ?

RIP true esports you will be missed.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
July 23 2012 08:00 GMT
#267


Nooooooooooooooooooooo
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
zazone
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania460 Posts
July 23 2012 08:05 GMT
#268
Don't know but if fans will continue to not show any interest in sc2, other teams might disband as well in future.
Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?-Adolf Hitler
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 23 2012 08:09 GMT
#269
I had to laugh a bit.
Still, the memories...
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2012 08:10 GMT
#270
So this means that SCII players can't play when they are in the army? I am hoping they are making a new team for the new talent.
I had a good night of sleep.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 23 2012 08:15 GMT
#271
wtf ace
why not just make an sc2 team
can i get my estro logo back pls
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 23 2012 08:18 GMT
#272
can someone provide a list of when everyone's contracts end?
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 08:19:35
July 23 2012 08:18 GMT
#273
On July 23 2012 17:10 Koshi wrote:
So this means that SCII players can't play when they are in the army? I am hoping they are making a new team for the new talent.


May 16th - oGs disbands
July 13th - Zenex ceases to exist as an independent team, will merge with Startale
July 23rd - Air Force Ace announces plan to disband

The Korean scene is collapsing.

I wouldn't be surprised to see 2-3 more teams disband in the next few months,.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
July 23 2012 08:21 GMT
#274
Fuck, this is terrible -.-
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 23 2012 08:23 GMT
#275
There goes the dream of having TBLS members in ACE rulling PL....or at least making strides in the playoffs.

Another sad day and another bullet to the chest how much more can it/we take?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
July 23 2012 08:31 GMT
#276
Slow deaths are the worst. It's a shock when something dies, but to watch it die is something else entirely. It's less painful for the onlooker if it takes longer to die, but the pain is spread over a longer period of time. If something dies nearly instantly, it's extremely painful. It can even be traumatic. I'm just glad KeSPA didn't say "Okay so, BW is done in a week, at the end of SK Planet proleague Season 1. Thanks for the memories."
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
July 23 2012 08:35 GMT
#277
Well, the Korean scene was so big in the BW era, so with the ending of the BW scene, the whole Starcraft scene will shrink. As the article pointed out, the gaming industry is diversifying quickly since 2000, so BW is not the only game to play these days.

The only reason people are seeing Western scene rising is because that the Western scene was like zero before LOL and SC2. There are some WC3 and CS events here and there, but that's pretty much it.

Still I doubt the Korean scene will decline to the point where Western scene can surpass it. I see the Western scene more as a bubble rather than something that will sustain. Even though the Korean scene is getting smaller, it's sustainable to a smaller scale.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
July 23 2012 08:41 GMT
#278
It's very unfortunate and sad but not surprising.

An era comes to an en and big changes will follow. Retirements of famous pro gamers that doesn't want to/can't switch to other games as well as sponsorships ending and teams disbanding.

Unfortunately I am waiting for bad news in the couple of months where we get to hear the retirement of many famous and popular BW stars

I'd love for the Kespa player to do well in whatever e-sport they choose so I can keep cheering for them.

But this is indeed very sad
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
July 23 2012 08:47 GMT
#279
Sucks, but I can't say it came as a surprise
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
July 23 2012 08:48 GMT
#280
This is what happens when there's a massive influx of teams and players into an already saturated market. It simply can't work.
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