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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
July 16 2012 17:21 GMT
#41
Oh god replacing BW with a much inferior game was already one of the most stupid decisions ever, but now instead of giving BW a deserved OSL finals end, the BW out with a BANG!, they will end a whole era with some possibly shitty match that doesn't even really count in the end.

Fuck this shit.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
July 16 2012 17:38 GMT
#42
I find this really dumb lol. They should think of the players and viewers instead of what they think will get them the best numbers.
Elegance, in all things.
Potling
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway298 Posts
July 16 2012 17:44 GMT
#43
On July 17 2012 02:38 MeteorRise wrote:
I find this really dumb lol. They should think of the players and viewers instead of what they think will get them the best numbers.

That's not the way corporations work. CEOs are required to maximize profits.

On July 16 2012 22:53 Chef wrote:
Difficulties more difficult than they are facing with the hybrid league? Maybe that are just scared that if OSL ends off with a bang people will want more of it, so they want it to pitter out with pathetic proleague games *conspiracy bisu*

Well, sorry, but I'll continue to not watch it. OSL is the last professional BW for me, their tactics won't phase me!

Heh, fully agreed. I've lost interest in the Proleague, to the point that I'd rather watch random Hiya replays than the live PL streams.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
July 16 2012 17:45 GMT
#44
Kespa is a master planer dont worry!

This is acttully really discusting.
Kespa always treated their players like shit and they still do it.
This is their fucking job, their not your suns Kespa.

This is also a fucking retarded decision.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 16 2012 17:45 GMT
#45
Hm, when the question arose I was ambivalent, but now that they've reached their decision, I'm glad. For me, SC2 has no entertainment value, so it really comes down to anything being better than nothing. Sure, OSL would be a more climactic finals, but these are still progamers and they still have accumulated skills from 5+ years. It will always be a treat to watch them, rough around the edges or not.
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
July 16 2012 17:45 GMT
#46
I actually like this leagues format. Not saying the past format was worse, but this one isn't bad. I'll continue to watch it.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 16 2012 17:46 GMT
#47
Agree with the consensus of the majority. BW should be allowed to end with a Bang in the form of the last OSL final. May the last champion be Protoss, the race that was shitted on and sat on since the founding of professional BW.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
July 16 2012 18:01 GMT
#48
On July 17 2012 02:46 dukethegold wrote:
Agree with the consensus of the majority. BW should be allowed to end with a Bang in the form of the last OSL final. May the last champion be Protoss, the race that was shitted on and sat on since the founding of professional BW.


Oh yeah, because players like Grrrr..., Garimto, Nal_Ra, Reach, Anytime, Bisu, Stork and Jangbi never won anything big ;p !
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 16 2012 18:29 GMT
#49
If it wasn't for the fact that I'm going to Korea and would very much like to see as much BW live as possible I'd totally agree with you guys. An epic OSL final Bo5, ideally with Flash and Jangbi, with Flash barely snatching a win in a 5 set series, would definitely have been the best send off BW could've possibly gotten. Instead we're gonna get a PL final with max 3 games.
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 16 2012 18:57 GMT
#50
BW ending in a PL game seems anti-climactic to be honest. It'd be much more sick if everything ended with the OSL.

It just seems more like a "I want it all" maneuver by KeSPA, desperately trying to retain the BW-fan base through prolonging the format. It's even more bad this way because by doing such, they'd probably lose more viewers as the quality of both games will suffer with the same problem of practicing for two games still present. Stick to SC2 or BW, trying to stick to both at once is going to make KeSPA lose both.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
July 16 2012 19:02 GMT
#51
On July 16 2012 23:21 stillborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 22:51 arbiter_md wrote:
I'm glad they keep it. I know it's hard for players, but more BW is good. I still don't know what will do when there will be no BW left.

I am not going to wacht one single game of this season then, i watch just about every good cast, but i wont start watching sc1 now, just because i play sc2

i think its a huge mistake to delay the full transition, just because your players are bad.

It's not because they feel the players are too bad. It's because the fans will not show up if they do a full transition.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 16 2012 19:04 GMT
#52
There was really no 'good' decision left to make. esports is fucked.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 16 2012 19:16 GMT
#53
Hopefully, it's because they're having second thoughts about a full transition.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
uziasz
Profile Joined August 2009
Poland70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 19:22:52
July 16 2012 19:19 GMT
#54
For me that news is like a nightmare for meh >.>

I would preffer let them to die broodwar in peace than to make another season of torment for bw. If and prolly it will happen OSL become sc2 then its just sad to watch how bw need to share it greatness with sc2. Im trully fan of bw and i dont like this decision mostly because the level of the bw games dropped much since progamers need to practise both game in same time and thats not what i wish to watch.

I miss old times when i woke up at 4 am in my country just to watch bw games live... now i hardly watch them at all because of that mix. Jd is no longer jd, flash is no longer flash... they are no longer same players.

Why they cant make 2 different leagues for bw and sc2? People and players could choose what game to play/watch. Yeh, yeh i know... its all about $$. :/


On July 17 2012 03:01 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:46 dukethegold wrote:
Agree with the consensus of the majority. BW should be allowed to end with a Bang in the form of the last OSL final. May the last champion be Protoss, the race that was shitted on and sat on since the founding of professional BW.


Oh yeah, because players like Grrrr..., Garimto, Nal_Ra, Reach, Anytime, Bisu, Stork and Jangbi never won anything big ;p !


Its not that they didnt won anything.. but zerg and especially terran players archieved much more. There were 4? bonjwas if i remember good... 1 zerg 3 terrans (+ jd was very close to be 2nd zerg bonjwa i believe) while protosses even with bisu at his best times wasnt that close to be bonjwa.
Jaedong fan since 2007 also Navi fan
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 16 2012 19:46 GMT
#55
On July 17 2012 04:19 uziasz wrote:
For me that news is like a nightmare for meh >.>

I would preffer let them to die broodwar in peace than to make another season of torment for bw. If and prolly it will happen OSL become sc2 then its just sad to watch how bw need to share it greatness with sc2. Im trully fan of bw and i dont like this decision mostly because the level of the bw games dropped much since progamers need to practise both game in same time and thats not what i wish to watch.

I miss old times when i woke up at 4 am in my country just to watch bw games live... now i hardly watch them at all because of that mix. Jd is no longer jd, flash is no longer flash... they are no longer same players.

Why they cant make 2 different leagues for bw and sc2? People and players could choose what game to play/watch. Yeh, yeh i know... its all about $$. :/


Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 03:01 sM.Zik wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:46 dukethegold wrote:
Agree with the consensus of the majority. BW should be allowed to end with a Bang in the form of the last OSL final. May the last champion be Protoss, the race that was shitted on and sat on since the founding of professional BW.


Oh yeah, because players like Grrrr..., Garimto, Nal_Ra, Reach, Anytime, Bisu, Stork and Jangbi never won anything big ;p !


Its not that they didnt won anything.. but zerg and especially terran players archieved much more. There were 4? bonjwas if i remember good... 1 zerg 3 terrans (+ jd was very close to be 2nd zerg bonjwa i believe) while protosses even with bisu at his best times wasnt that close to be bonjwa.


Actually 4 Terrans and 1 Zerg.

Boxer, Nada, Oov, Savior, Flash.

And please Kespa let BW die in peace T_T. Kespa hurting Esports.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 16 2012 19:52 GMT
#56
In terms of bonjwa's Terran have the most representation, but thinking about the 4 kings of each era, Protoss are pretty damn well represented too. Just thinking about that year of the dragons makes me mad at anyone who whines about Protoss lol...
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BgSBendeR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada170 Posts
July 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#57
they know a full switch to only sc2 is bad. the crowd at today's osl ODT was proof of that.
For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 16 2012 20:05 GMT
#58
KESPA is kinda in a tough place right now. They own the BW market 100% and their fans will come see those games, but there is no new sponsor interest and a bleak future to stay afloat. For the SC2 market, there are loads of sponsors and international opportunities, but the GSL, if you like it or not, is the face of Korean SC2. Even with OSL now having SC2 games, the attendance between GSL and the Hybrid Proleague/ODT is heavily in GSL's favor with the GOM Studio almost always packed for Code S/GSTL games now.
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2340 Posts
July 16 2012 20:06 GMT
#59
Well...so much for a death of a BW...HAHAHAHAHAHA!

(no, I'm not happy at all)
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 16 2012 20:09 GMT
#60
On July 17 2012 04:52 Chef wrote:
In terms of bonjwa's Terran have the most representation, but thinking about the 4 kings of each era, Protoss are pretty damn well represented too. Just thinking about that year of the dragons makes me mad at anyone who whines about Protoss lol...

A single terran bonjwa from any era wins more titles than all the protoss kings of that same era.
Terran is well-known as the easy path to bonjwahood.
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