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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 15:52:17
July 16 2012 13:45 GMT
#1
After much heated discussion, Kespa has announced today that until this season of SPL ends BW will still be a part of SPL, Kespa thinks that a switch to full SC2 will face many difficulties.

Sources!
http://www.e-sports.or.kr/news/notice_view.kea?m_code=news_30&seq=953&where=||&query=&where_term=&PageNo=1
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=63397
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 16 2012 13:50 GMT
#2
Source please oh mighty cailhead ^_^
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
July 16 2012 13:51 GMT
#3
I'm glad they keep it. I know it's hard for players, but more BW is good. I still don't know what will do when there will be no BW left.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 16 2012 13:53 GMT
#4
Difficulties more difficult than they are facing with the hybrid league? Maybe that are just scared that if OSL ends off with a bang people will want more of it, so they want it to pitter out with pathetic proleague games *conspiracy bisu*

Well, sorry, but I'll continue to not watch it. OSL is the last professional BW for me, their tactics won't phase me!
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GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
July 16 2012 13:54 GMT
#5
Yep, OSL and then no more Korean professional BW :/
Stupid decision.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 16 2012 13:56 GMT
#6
kespa just makes one stupid decision after another and then they justify it with the impossibly vague "we will face many difficulties"

jesus christ
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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
July 16 2012 14:00 GMT
#7
Well I was going to try to follow the all SC2 Proleague starting in round three. Idk if I'll watch anything from Kespa after the OSL Finals. Thats gonna be a special series. The level of BW play is gonna bottom out. Players will go cheese or do timing builds everg game while they amp up for the SC2 OSL and next year.
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sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
July 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#8
So much for ending BW with a BANG. Now it will end with someone winning over proxy rax/gate vs 4 pool -.-
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1979 Posts
July 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#9
this format is a failure... atleast the last osl match was good to watch
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MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
July 16 2012 14:16 GMT
#10
I would've preferred it go sc2 full time, with the final BW OSL wrapping up so soon it means the last taste of KeSPA broodwar is going to be a shitty bo3 (or 5 or however they are going to do it in the finals) before a sc2 bo3 and ace match. The OSL final seems like the only worthy send off to me, and now that won't happen.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:24:19
July 16 2012 14:19 GMT
#11
Makes sense, because otherwise teams would have abused the alternating BW/SC2 player pick strategy in the second round, knowing that from the next round they will not have to follow this rule. Better finish the league by its initial rules.

edit: Also remember that the BW/SC2 alternation increases the presence of known good BW players like Bisu and Stork, who otherwise might struggle to even see many games in SC2-only, considering their transition is still far from their BW status.
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stillborn
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany119 Posts
July 16 2012 14:21 GMT
#12
On July 16 2012 22:51 arbiter_md wrote:
I'm glad they keep it. I know it's hard for players, but more BW is good. I still don't know what will do when there will be no BW left.

I am not going to wacht one single game of this season then, i watch just about every good cast, but i wont start watching sc1 now, just because i play sc2

i think its a huge mistake to delay the full transition, just because your players are bad.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
July 16 2012 14:22 GMT
#13
or they are just moved by the crowd's reaction in jangbi vs zero semifinal?
kespa is afraid of having the legendary BW close down immediately will result in a great opposition..
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 16 2012 14:26 GMT
#14
I like this to be fair. It's better for the league, and allows for no stupid table flip when it comes to results. A little worse for the players, and people will always QQ anyway, so screw it.
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Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
July 16 2012 14:30 GMT
#15
Its fair no matter what but this is worse for the players so i would have much rather no bw
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 16 2012 14:36 GMT
#16
It's really difficult to say at this stage if this is a good decision or not, how the emotions will play out for fans and players alike. I would have preferred them just going to SC2 so that the OSL finals is the last BW games.
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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:47:28
July 16 2012 14:46 GMT
#17
Better for both games in that you can get some crossover of fans watching both and may be intrigued to watch the "other" game (whether its BW or SC2).

Very bad for the players tough, this is afterall their job, especially since they still have to watch GSL pros rake in the money at tournaments both GSL and foreign while they are hamstrung by playing 2 different games.

I rather watch great BW or no BW, not half assed, we kinda prepared for it BW. And i bet the same goes for SC2 viewers, they dont want to watch half assed, half prepared SC2 either.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#18
I'm fine with this, I guess. Proleague BW games can still be good like bisu's most recent game was.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 15:02:24
July 16 2012 15:02 GMT
#19
I just wish Kespa could make up their minds about this ffs >_<.
Could someone please clarify for me what the hell this mean for Proleague and such?
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sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
July 16 2012 15:07 GMT
#20
It's a pretty disappointing situation no matter what they choose.

Personally, I think the hybrid format loses them a lot more viewers than it gains.
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