EPTHighest APM seen or achieved? - Page 4
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c3rberUs
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ninini
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StarscreamG1
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zimp
Hungary951 Posts
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=51308 (from 2005) but G.s)Kyo wins highest spam rate as well: ~70% hotkey usage a rep from 2011 with 518 apm http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=51309 fastest progamer now is By.Cola from CJ i think, he is usually above 400, often 450+, close to 500 By.HerO is fast too but rather ~300-400, just like NaDa was and many many other progamer nowdays. july peaking once at 800 doesn't mean shit lol. he just held down the keys... the apm highly depends on the matchup, build, and length of the game. generally if there is more ongoing micro, and the rep is short, the apm will be higher. for example zergs usually have higher apm when using 2 hatch muta in zvt because its a heavy micro build and requires both hatchery spam and constant muta micro that means many move clicks at the same time. (thats why by.hero had so high apm vs fantasy in a 9minute game... but in other cases he is "just" ~350) i think all progamers have pretty high e-apm, especially in TvZ where terrans need to do so many things, 250-60 Eapm in tvz is not rare at all in progaming standards. PvZ on the other hand is usually much more defensive so eapm stays lower there i think. Bisu still has 200+ eapm there too tho-.- his eapm is especially high. but you don't need to have high apm to be successful, Savior raped everyone back then with ~230 normal apm, Fantasy has ~250, Stork ~270. Movie reached the osl final with his 220ish normal apm. Clever play and concentrating on the key micros is the most important. | ||
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AsymptoticClimax
United Kingdom249 Posts
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StarStruck
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Piste
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after reading Zimp's message, I think it was G.s)Kyo | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On June 29 2012 11:58 ShadeR wrote: It was either a series vs Flash or a ZvZ series but Hyuk avg 550 in all games LOL I think it was against Flash. In one of the games he had 600 average with ~1000 peak. He lost to a sunken bust before his mutas could come out. LOL | ||
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
On July 06 2012 22:38 StarStruck wrote: I know a few players who can break well over 1K if they wanted, but they play really bad when they do that. Picks or it didn' t happen | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On June 29 2012 12:03 NeMeSiS3 wrote: Actually, he was known for his 500 APM, with only a few others having such fast hands, his e-apm was similar though to flash at around 220. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cDCGA.jpg) So uh wheres this 500 APM at? Cause all his replays are similar. This is confirmed to be Bisu btw. most progamers average around 200 or something eAPM, anyone can spam and get a highass peak, you can see it in alot of Kingdom reps, where people are like OMG HE PEAKED AT LIKE 1K SO GOOD, where in reality he's holding down ctrl 1 or 1 the entire time. Peaks are almost worthless to talk about On July 06 2012 22:38 StarStruck wrote: I know a few players who can break well over 1K if they wanted, but they play really bad when they do that. I can hold a hotkey down or play in lag too, it doesnt make me good. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
When NaDa first started out his hands were faster than pretty much everybody. Mechanically speaking he could hammer people into the ground with Boxer-like micro combined with absurd (by the standards of the day) multitasking ability. As other players began catching up mechanically, NaDa's answer seemed to be trying to play even faster. By comparison, I think one of the biggest advantages Flash had was that he skipped all of that. By the time Flash came along, everybody had very high apm with 300+ being very common. Flash probably has the highest e-apm of anyone, but he doesn't actually have the fastest hands (although his hands are really fucking fast). Mechanically speaking, Flash's key to success is that he focuses only on what's important and does a better job of that than anybody else. The different mindset leads to a different evolution as a player. NaDa wants to click more, more, more because that's what you have to do if you want to win on speed. Flash of course also clicks very fast, but the emphasis on focusing on what's important means prioritizing making clicks count over quantity of actions. It has a lot to do with the respective eras these guys evolved in. | ||
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brolaf
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On June 29 2012 10:09 Wonders wrote: Please show me a game where Bisu gets 400 EAPM. That's way higher than the highest I've seen, which is 270-280. As for 'regular' APM the highest I've seen in replays was G.s)Kyo who was pretty much always above 500. I don't know his EAPM since EAPM counters weren't around back then but I'd be surprised if it was over 220. Also it seems like progamers have significantly higher APMs in broadcast games than in practice games. The post-game stats in broadcast games are always 20-50% higher than any replays that I have. For example, Flash seems to have 350+ in his broadcast games, but in all of his replays (admittedly old) he has high 200s/low 300s. Yes, please don't talk about peaks, most of the absurdly high APMs are just people holding down ctrl+1. Also I don't think a 800+ peak is that hard in SC2 when you can just hold down 'R' with 40 larvae selected. On July 07 2012 04:56 arb wrote: + Show Spoiler + So uh wheres this 500 APM at? Cause all his replays are similar. This is confirmed to be Bisu btw. most progamers average around 200 or something eAPM, anyone can spam and get a highass peak, you can see it in alot of Kingdom reps, where people are like OMG HE PEAKED AT LIKE 1K SO GOOD, where in reality he's holding down ctrl 1 or 1 the entire time. Peaks are almost worthless to talk about I can hold a hotkey down or play in lag too, it doesnt make me good. Look, when bisu is microing his PvZ corsairs, theres practically no reduncancy, he is at super sayan level practically during that time | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On July 07 2012 06:42 brolaf wrote: Look, when bisu is microing his PvZ corsairs, theres practically no reduncancy, he is at super sayan level practically during that time Being able to do almost no redundancy microing corsairs isnt the same as "known for his 400 eAPM" or "500 average APM" counting that shit in spikes doesnt work. I mean hell playing TvZ at the C Level i could make my battles vs large armies go to like 400 easily, and im by no means as good as Bisu or Flash. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
gogo july ^_^ nice to hear these talks again  | ||
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GrazerRinge
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On July 07 2012 10:07 GrazerRinge wrote: this is like who has the bigger d***.... i thought TL used to be better then this Well you could try to get Rekrul to go on a ban hammer craze. | ||
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Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
It's the average APM that matters . If i am not mistaken,Nada and July average APM usually hover between 450-550 APM.Possibly highest i have seen. Though there was this one time July had 818 APM while micro-ing 2 muta group at the same time in TvZ(ZerO and JD are other two that does this exceptionally well). But then we got Fantasy,Flash and way back Savior that are known for their sick decision making and strategies but does not have like super super high APM.Mostly usually hover around average 250-300ishhh. | ||
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
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