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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10477 Posts
June 28 2012 19:09 GMT
#21
On June 29 2012 04:04 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
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On June 29 2012 03:40 FlaShFTW wrote:
3992... wat a hacker. wow how is that even possible? the hotkey spam only gets 1k i thought.


Lag with it you'll see a higher count.

wait, so the game was laggin when he did that? or was it not lagging. I thought without lag it peaked at 1k...
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stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 19:09:40
June 28 2012 19:09 GMT
#22
I'm thinking probably Nada in his prime had the highest APM of any progamer on average.. he used to be so damn fast.. consistently over 400 APM..
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10477 Posts
June 28 2012 19:14 GMT
#23
wait. didn't baby have an eapm of like high 300s low 400? i mean how else is he able to do those double drops everywhere?
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1726 Posts
June 28 2012 19:15 GMT
#24
long ago on yg clan there was this 20min rep from a zerg having 512 apm, but for me the most impressive was TheMarine 45min game 440 apm thanks gg no re.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51615 Posts
June 28 2012 19:19 GMT
#25
On June 29 2012 03:16 AoN.DimSum wrote:
I remember there was a semi pro protoss player with 500~ apm. I really can't remember the name but it was something like hermito(sp?)


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before bwchart i think arang was the fastest protoss.
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 28 2012 19:50 GMT
#26
G.s)Kyo and ForGe)iS( both had like 500+ apm alot of their games

seen NaDa have 279eapm and 450-ish apm
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 28 2012 20:15 GMT
#27
On June 29 2012 03:04 Kau wrote:
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On June 29 2012 02:08 Chef wrote:
That's not a hack, that's just someone holding down ctrl + # for awhile. BW chart reads it as many actions being repeated over and over.

peak APM can be cool because it usually coincides with a micro battle, but steady apm is often hotkey spam to keep you you playing quickly, rather than accomplishing a lot at once. Because of these things it is often more interesting to look at your own APM because you know exactly what it means and how you play, whether it is spam or not etc.


Without lag, holding down a key in the fastest game setting only gets me 800-1000 APM (with the key repeat set to highest on the windows keyboard config).

The >12 unit selection hack can get really high APMs though.

Oh... Maybe. I have the vague memory of holding down a key for an entire game as an ob back in the day and getting maxed out apm tho. Pretty sure the longer you hold it the more broken.
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Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
June 28 2012 20:38 GMT
#28
I have to agree with an earlier post, I'm pretty sure it's by.hero. At the time people were making a real big deal because he could average 450 (probably including spikes though, not sure). But the guy is/was fast. Otherwise a mediocre player, but fast.
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Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
June 28 2012 20:40 GMT
#29
On June 29 2012 03:14 Aelfric wrote:
Back in the day there was a guy named Clair[GsP] and he was averaging arround 420 apm with protoss which was unseen at that time because everyone was thinking that protoss required less actions. I remember seeing his peak arround 550 apm without using ctrl+ # tricks or anything so he was legit i guess.


Are you perhaps thinking of Lee Jung Hoon, i.e MarineKing? He played Protoss in BW, and his ID was Clare. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Clare
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CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 20:51:42
June 28 2012 20:51 GMT
#30
I remember seeing NaDa's replay (TvP on LostTemple) where he _averaged_ ~560 APM over a 15min long game.
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
June 28 2012 20:56 GMT
#31
On June 29 2012 02:20 Qeet wrote:
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On June 29 2012 02:14 pyrogenetix wrote:
Probably Nada or something, averaging 400 e-apm.

Watched a korean progamer show (I think it was Nal_Ra) saying that there were progamers with 500 apm but were just spamming needlessly and actually slowing down their gameplay.


no one is averaging 400 eapm...
nada used to have 400average apm in most of his games. highest average eapm i have seen was around 270eapm in flash replays .s

Thats actually not true at all, Bisu does average over 400 effective apm all the time and is known in korea as the fastest progamer. Both Zero and By.hero are also known to achieve this level on the regular but just not as often or as quick as bisu. Flash and Stork btw are known to be 2 of the slowest eapm players currently so using him as an example isnt really telling. Eapm isnt everything obviously lol
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
June 28 2012 21:03 GMT
#32
I remember a BW Chart with negative apm
Not sure if that was just a joke in the old SFW Pics or something hahaha
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sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
June 28 2012 21:09 GMT
#33
On June 29 2012 05:56 gk_ender wrote:
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On June 29 2012 02:20 Qeet wrote:
On June 29 2012 02:14 pyrogenetix wrote:
Probably Nada or something, averaging 400 e-apm.

Watched a korean progamer show (I think it was Nal_Ra) saying that there were progamers with 500 apm but were just spamming needlessly and actually slowing down their gameplay.


no one is averaging 400 eapm...
nada used to have 400average apm in most of his games. highest average eapm i have seen was around 270eapm in flash replays .s

Thats actually not true at all, Bisu does average over 400 effective apm all the time and is known in korea as the fastest progamer. Both Zero and By.hero are also known to achieve this level on the regular but just not as often or as quick as bisu. Flash and Stork btw are known to be 2 of the slowest eapm players currently so using him as an example isnt really telling. Eapm isnt everything obviously lol


You know you're dealing with people above anything anyone else can even offer accurate advice on in the world when you're referring to 270-300eapm-sustaining players as "2 of the slowest". I've seen some replays of pros maintaining 300-350eapm pretty consistently. It stands to reason that 400+ is achievable although it might not be consistent through all their games.
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 00:52:43
June 29 2012 00:38 GMT
#34
On June 29 2012 02:01 Snijjer wrote:
I was just wondering what the highest apm you've ever seen is.

I just played a 3v3 BGH game and one of my opponents had a peak of 1656 (!!) according to BWCharts.


Prob hacking, or hotkey spam. I don't think it's humanly possible to have that much APM.

July peaked at 818, as people are saying. The highest recorded SC2 APM is DRG with 877 (per real minute), so 1656 can't possibly be real.

But peaks are weird. Averages are much more sensible to use, I think, if we're to start talking about who's faster

Edit: Messed up my conversion. Stupid Blizzard time.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
June 29 2012 00:43 GMT
#35
The highest APM ever recorded, to my knowledge, was Julyzerg, at 818APM.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 29 2012 00:51 GMT
#36
The Zerg...by.Hero was known for hitting 500 average APM in his games.

Nada, Really, Jaedong, and...no one else I can think of off the top of my head were known for regularly hitting 400 average APM as well.

Most pros were between 250-300 range.
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XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
June 29 2012 00:57 GMT
#37
Does anyone have the game in which July supposedly hit this 800+ APM?

I distinctly recall reading somewhere that it was 818 APM and it was when he was microing mutas on two opposite sides of the map.. not sure how skewed my memory is.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 29 2012 01:02 GMT
#38
July maxed at 818apm against Best, AFAIK
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Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
June 29 2012 01:09 GMT
#39
On June 29 2012 05:56 gk_ender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 02:20 Qeet wrote:
On June 29 2012 02:14 pyrogenetix wrote:
Probably Nada or something, averaging 400 e-apm.

Watched a korean progamer show (I think it was Nal_Ra) saying that there were progamers with 500 apm but were just spamming needlessly and actually slowing down their gameplay.


no one is averaging 400 eapm...
nada used to have 400average apm in most of his games. highest average eapm i have seen was around 270eapm in flash replays .s

Thats actually not true at all, Bisu does average over 400 effective apm all the time and is known in korea as the fastest progamer. Both Zero and By.hero are also known to achieve this level on the regular but just not as often or as quick as bisu. Flash and Stork btw are known to be 2 of the slowest eapm players currently so using him as an example isnt really telling. Eapm isnt everything obviously lol


Please show me a game where Bisu gets 400 EAPM. That's way higher than the highest I've seen, which is 270-280.

As for 'regular' APM the highest I've seen in replays was G.s)Kyo who was pretty much always above 500. I don't know his EAPM since EAPM counters weren't around back then but I'd be surprised if it was over 220.

Also it seems like progamers have significantly higher APMs in broadcast games than in practice games. The post-game stats in broadcast games are always 20-50% higher than any replays that I have. For example, Flash seems to have 350+ in his broadcast games, but in all of his replays (admittedly old) he has high 200s/low 300s.

On June 29 2012 09:38 Ribbon wrote:
July peaked at 818, as people are saying. The highest recorded SC2 APM is DRG with 877 (per real minute), so 1656 can't possibly be real.

But peaks are weird. Averages are much more sensible to use, I think, if we're to start talking about who's faster


Yes, please don't talk about peaks, most of the absurdly high APMs are just people holding down ctrl+1. Also I don't think a 800+ peak is that hard in SC2 when you can just hold down 'R' with 40 larvae selected.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 29 2012 01:12 GMT
#40
I think NaDa averaged well over 500 at least once in a pro game. The number 586 stands out in my memory, but that number may be bullshit and should be verified before given credence to.
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