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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 07 2012 07:00 GMT
#81
On July 07 2012 11:32 doktorLucifer wrote:
I have a replay from some non-pro named "ganfei" where he averages like 400-450 apm. He was playing SK terran vs a protoss (it was a TZ vs PZ 2v2 game.)

Ganfei huh, iirc he was like C+ or something at best? I know he's banned here on most of his accounts.

There was a pretty good SK Terran TvP But I can't find it now Shine vs Some protoss on ..Forte? I think. Think he averaged like 470 APM in that game and it was like 20 minutes long
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ScrubbleS
Profile Joined December 2010
United States74 Posts
July 07 2012 07:06 GMT
#82
lol my friend areaAnda averages 300+ e-apm always... he has reps to prove ez
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 07 2012 07:12 GMT
#83
On July 07 2012 16:06 ScrubbleS wrote:
lol my friend areaAnda averages 300+ e-apm always... he has reps to prove ez


post replays plox
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 07 2012 07:37 GMT
#84
On July 07 2012 16:12 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 16:06 ScrubbleS wrote:
lol my friend areaAnda averages 300+ e-apm always... he has reps to prove ez


post replays plox

We'll never get them, because they don't exist.
rofl
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 07 2012 08:06 GMT
#85
On July 07 2012 16:06 ScrubbleS wrote:
lol my friend areaAnda averages 300+ e-apm always... he has reps to prove ez


Are you sure it's e-apm and not the bassackwards SC2 eapm? lol

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olabaz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 08:19:11
July 07 2012 08:15 GMT
#86
Is there a link to the VOD of July with the insane APM?

Edit: I think it's this one: + Show Spoiler +
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 13:20:56
July 07 2012 13:15 GMT
#87
July hit over 800 in broodwar. What a beast. In SC2 (I know, I know, wrong forum) I saw Stephano get over 600 which equates to about 830 in Broodwar, although it's difficult to compare because some actions don't count in SC2.

Of course you can get higher by just holding down Ctrl+1 (I've seen over 2000).

Highest peak I've ever acheived is just under 600 (in broodwar, I don't play enough SC2 to get fast) and my highest average is probably below 250, normally I end a game with an average of about 180ish. Well I used to at least, haven't played more than 5-6 games of broodwar in the past year or so.
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
July 07 2012 14:29 GMT
#88
nobody will ever hit 800!! its just apm peak, which means nothing!!
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8543 Posts
July 07 2012 15:57 GMT
#89
On July 07 2012 23:29 zimp wrote:
nobody will ever hit 800!! its just apm peak, which means nothing!!


It doesnt have to mean anything, but can mean that you are that fast in situations where it actually matters.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 16:07:20
July 07 2012 16:06 GMT
#90
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
July 07 2012 16:34 GMT
#91
On June 29 2012 10:09 Wonders wrote:
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On June 29 2012 05:56 gk_ender wrote:
On June 29 2012 02:20 Qeet wrote:
On June 29 2012 02:14 pyrogenetix wrote:
Probably Nada or something, averaging 400 e-apm.

Watched a korean progamer show (I think it was Nal_Ra) saying that there were progamers with 500 apm but were just spamming needlessly and actually slowing down their gameplay.


no one is averaging 400 eapm...
nada used to have 400average apm in most of his games. highest average eapm i have seen was around 270eapm in flash replays .s

Thats actually not true at all, Bisu does average over 400 effective apm all the time and is known in korea as the fastest progamer. Both Zero and By.hero are also known to achieve this level on the regular but just not as often or as quick as bisu. Flash and Stork btw are known to be 2 of the slowest eapm players currently so using him as an example isnt really telling. Eapm isnt everything obviously lol


Please show me a game where Bisu gets 400 EAPM. That's way higher than the highest I've seen, which is 270-280.

As for 'regular' APM the highest I've seen in replays was G.s)Kyo who was pretty much always above 500. I don't know his EAPM since EAPM counters weren't around back then but I'd be surprised if it was over 220.

Also it seems like progamers have significantly higher APMs in broadcast games than in practice games. The post-game stats in broadcast games are always 20-50% higher than any replays that I have. For example, Flash seems to have 350+ in his broadcast games, but in all of his replays (admittedly old) he has high 200s/low 300s.

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On June 29 2012 09:38 Ribbon wrote:
July peaked at 818, as people are saying. The highest recorded SC2 APM is DRG with 877 (per real minute), so 1656 can't possibly be real.

But peaks are weird. Averages are much more sensible to use, I think, if we're to start talking about who's faster


Yes, please don't talk about peaks, most of the absurdly high APMs are just people holding down ctrl+1. Also I don't think a 800+ peak is that hard in SC2 when you can just hold down 'R' with 40 larvae selected.


Holding down R with 40 larvae doesn't spike your APM unless your keyboard repeat is set really fucking high lol
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
July 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#92
On July 07 2012 10:07 GrazerRinge wrote:
this is like who has the bigger d***.... i thought TL used to be better then this


Does this mean that this is a sausage fest because we are comparing the sizes of other peoples dicks to each other?
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 07 2012 21:19 GMT
#93
On July 08 2012 00:57 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 23:29 zimp wrote:
nobody will ever hit 800!! its just apm peak, which means nothing!!


It doesnt have to mean anything, but can mean that you are that fast in situations where it actually matters.

No actually it usually mean's youre holding down one key.

The highest APM ive seen usually in actual battles from the replays ive watched over the years is like 500 or somewhere around there.
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Alacar
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 06:00:28
July 08 2012 05:34 GMT
#94
On July 08 2012 06:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 00:57 Miragee wrote:
On July 07 2012 23:29 zimp wrote:
nobody will ever hit 800!! its just apm peak, which means nothing!!


It doesnt have to mean anything, but can mean that you are that fast in situations where it actually matters.

No actually it usually mean's youre holding down one key.

The highest APM ive seen usually in actual battles from the replays ive watched over the years is like 500 or somewhere around there.


DRG would claim that 500 is a bit slow. I assume you missed this game in the last MLG or don't use reddit. Here. This was achieved for 5-10 stable seconds fluxing from 500-650 while making 15 roaches, 5 tumors, moving his army around and hotkey cycling. I also highly doubt that this is the highest anyone has ever hit over a very short time frame.
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
July 08 2012 08:06 GMT
#95
On July 07 2012 16:00 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 11:32 doktorLucifer wrote:
I have a replay from some non-pro named "ganfei" where he averages like 400-450 apm. He was playing SK terran vs a protoss (it was a TZ vs PZ 2v2 game.)

Ganfei huh, iirc he was like C+ or something at best? I know he's banned here on most of his accounts.

There was a pretty good SK Terran TvP But I can't find it now Shine vs Some protoss on ..Forte? I think. Think he averaged like 470 APM in that game and it was like 20 minutes long


I think he said he was only C+/B- 1v1, but a bit better at 2v2. ¯\(°_o)/¯
SenseiFIN
Profile Joined March 2021
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-05 05:09:05
March 01 2021 18:19 GMT
#96
It is possible to achieve APM over 3000 when using a certain technique.

It is a tehcnique that is required to play track and file type of games at top level, enabling you to hit buttons repeatedly at fast speed.

You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2hn57Wy9mGDx-5RwwQevjQ

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