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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
Anyway, the bug was discovered by someone and Xeo tested it and it turned out to be true. When you make a nydus canal, morph an exit and hotkey it and then make an overlord and then select the exit and cancel it, you have a mobile nydus canal exit, any unit sent through the canal will spawn at the drone. full story and replay in the did you know thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=6&topic_id=33633 | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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OhNoKickedAgain
Czech Republic232 Posts
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Ekii
Poland346 Posts
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
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zrucrem
Afghanistan425 Posts
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
i mean did you really need to make a thread about it IS THE MATTER PRESSING! you guys do realize that sc still has a lot of already discovered bugs right man drones always get the coolest bugs too invincible flying make mutas more money teleporting etc. etc. and of course they get the normal glitches associated with workers like stacking and then also they have burrow so all the burrow glitches like burrow stacking and autocloak | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Imagine a marine being like wtf mate as 50 lurkers pop out a drone... sweet! | ||
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WGT)DarkXprT
Qatar428 Posts
link: http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PR5ROU8YSFZI31WW5UF1YSBU5 | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
you can't cancel nydus canal exits | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
Defines it pretty well | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
When you quickly "overwrite" a hotkey and then select it, it will give you the interface of the previous unit/building but actually you're controlling the new one. So like that, cancelling inside the interface of an overlord while you're actually doing it with the nydus exit leads to this. The fact that there's a drone coming out of it is weird though... | ||
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On December 14 2005 10:00 XtaC_hiryu wrote: Hmm.. can you morph that drone into another building? Then like barracks or gateway, units pop out of it. then it would work like a normal nydus canal LOLOL | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
I'd like to have some fun with my friend using this bug~~ | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28665 Posts
well if old reps are still good then it is but old reps are never still good t.t | ||
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
On December 14 2005 10:08 RaGe wrote: then it would work like a normal nydus canal LOLOL only stronger, like a hive perhaps. | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
LOL nvm.. I'll try it when I get back from work. Yes, if it will affect the old reps then its not worth another pacth. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
For those who want to see it: http://users.pandora.be/rkxtreme/stuff/Nydus_bug_burrow.rep HOWEVER; one positive thing I found out is that the drone does not behave like a nydus canal anymore when it morphs into a building. | ||
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
!It works when the drone is burrowed or in an overlord :O ! I found a way to crash the game using that bug... I won't say how, but this should be patched  ! | ||
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
On December 14 2005 10:32 Xeofreestyler wrote: Okay, i'm back. And burrowing works ;_; For those who want to see it: http://users.pandora.be/rkxtreme/stuff/Nydus_bug_burrow.rep HOWEVER; one positive thing I found out is that the drone does not behave like a nydus canal anymore when it morphs into a building. There goes the answer to my question Thanks for testing. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
Click a larva and tell it to build an overlord. Now tell your nydus canal to build an exit. (preferably close to the larvae) Then you click the egg and then hold control, press 1 and then quickly select the exit (while still holding the ctrl button) and click 1 again. Normally you should get an overlord interface now. Press esc or just cancel it with the button and normally your exit will pop and become a drone, voila! Oh and btw, this probably has got something to do with the latency thing on bnet. When I tried it offline it didnt work. | ||
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StreaK
Canada580 Posts
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
On December 14 2005 10:08 RaGe wrote: then it would work like a normal nydus canal LOLOL what if you used that drone to make a new nydus then? :OOO what happens to thefirst nydus? it dies when it has no exit or wut? | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
Shit, we are what? Fucked? T_T? | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
On December 14 2005 11:12 Starparty wrote: what if you used that drone to make a new nydus then? :OOO what happens to thefirst nydus? it dies when it has no exit or wut? Like I said, it stops being an exit when it turns into a building so practically the new nydus would be completely indepent of the old one. I didnt check to see what happened when I sent units through the original one though ... But I think it would crash like somebody else said... Anyway, for the good of mankind I decided to test this with other things. When you make 2 buildings and you quickly 'overwrite' one hotkey it will kill the other one while you don't have it selected. It doesnt work on archon or dark archon meld tough. Which indicates that the nydus canal was built with the engine to act like a 'real' building but just wasn't given the cancel ability, otherwhise a drone would emerge since it acts like a real building. The fact that the drone doesnt have full HP when it pops out is something I cant explain though... | ||
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
On December 14 2005 08:27 OhNoKickedAgain wrote: problem for terran = drop of one drone haha | ||
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HiaTuS.
Australia235 Posts
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Fobbish
Korea (South)1071 Posts
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greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
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HiaTuS.
Australia235 Posts
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
you can make invisible nydus canal exits you don't even need a drone/ovie there!!!! i'll speak more after we rape these 3v5 comps | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
then pop it in an ovie now what you do is: where ever you want to have your exit, pop your drone out and then pop it back in the ovie as long as you keep your drone in the ovie, the exit will remain the same, regardless if the drone is there or not! bw crashed though, when my magic drone containing ovie was destroyed and i tried to use the nydus. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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ther
Hungary252 Posts
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
On December 14 2005 13:14 StarN wrote: i wonder if the koreans found this out before us? You're not Korean? | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
On December 14 2005 12:36 skyglow1 wrote: Wow just popping it and the exit will be placed there? That'd be weird to see units pop out of nowhere. It can be compared with the build-gol-in-air trick. You get a factore, spam L and G and normally it should have a gol building, but the progress is stuck on 0%. However, when you land it and right click anywhere else while it is doing so, the gol will start building while the factory floats. The problem is, this doesn't give you jack shit because the coördinates of the building have been set, therefore the gol will just appear where the building used to be. I guess the same principle can be applied here with the nydusdrone being lifted into ol, the fact that this nydusdrone is interesting is mainly because its a building with constant changing coördinates lol | ||
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8880
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
i am. but... i was talking community wise. | ||
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SChasu
United States1505 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On December 14 2005 13:29 Xeofreestyler wrote: It can be compared with the build-gol-in-air trick. You get a factore, spam L and G and normally it should have a gol building, but the progress is stuck on 0%. However, when you land it and right click anywhere else while it is doing so, the gol will start building while the factory floats. The problem is, this doesn't give you jack shit because the coördinates of the building have been set, therefore the gol will just appear where the building used to be. I guess the same principle can be applied here with the nydusdrone being lifted into ol, the fact that this nydusdrone is interesting is mainly because its a building with constant changing coördinates lol Yeah I know that trick, but thats not as cool because you can only make 1 unit pop out there. Imagine like popping the drone onto opponents base, then running away and after that when he isnlt looking send like a million lings magically appearing in his base :O | ||
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
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WGT)DarkXprT
Qatar428 Posts
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PlayJunior
Armenia833 Posts
On December 14 2005 23:05 WGT)DarkXprT wrote: just used this bug in 2v2 @east BGH it was hillarious lol, the guy was all like WTF?!?!?! Guys don't you see some gay attitude in this? LOL | ||
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HappyManRun
1111 Posts
On December 14 2005 09:47 Xeofreestyler wrote: I think the bug kinda works like this: When you quickly "overwrite" a hotkey and then select it, it will give you the interface of the previous unit/building but actually you're controlling the new one. So like that, cancelling inside the interface of an overlord while you're actually doing it with the nydus exit leads to this. The fact that there's a drone coming out of it is weird though... So basically it's like stack hydra/ling glitch and it has something to do with latency and stuff, therefore it'll be hard to fix? Anyways burrowdrone recall would be so SICK! we should keep this bug :p | ||
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-DaJ-
Switzerland539 Posts
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EarthSHaKe
Sweden73 Posts
And what do happend if u tries to run use hte nydus with ur exit drone? | ||
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alphaentity
United States525 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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superjoppe
Sweden3683 Posts
Yeah I know that trick, but thats not as cool because you can only make 1 unit pop out there. No, more than 1 unit can pop up. It depends on how fast you press the G button | ||
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alphaentity
United States525 Posts
They better make a patch for this...cause you can use it to seriously abuse ppl and crash games. not fun ....unless ur the one fucking around with it. | ||
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Eerik
Estonia117 Posts
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
invis, invul nydus that can be moved. this is REALLY sick. ahahahahaha | ||
vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
you are faggots thank you | ||
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Eerik
Estonia117 Posts
and used the drone to start mining at his 2nd expansion. so, my units popped out of his new drone ;p it probably works the other way round too, so its KIND OF a counter to it. mindcontrol drone, use it to get into his base. | ||
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-DaJ-
Switzerland539 Posts
you cloak the first drone to build a invisible nydus and cancel the exit with "the trick" is the "exit-drone" invisible as well??? | ||
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-DaJ-
Switzerland539 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
Unless ofcourse a cloaked nydus would be part of your master skeem in the first place ~~ | ||
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-DaJ-
Switzerland539 Posts
yes it would! | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
If you pick up the drone with an overlord, units will nydus to where you picked the drone up, so you can pick a drone up at an expo, then when the other guy expos there, start nydusing your units into that expo. I haven't tried this, but it sounds cheap. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On December 15 2005 04:26 vGl-CoW wrote: okay to all of you that are actually trying this out in public games you are faggots thank you haha i tried this out in a bgh yesterday we would have won anyways though | ||
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ShabZzoY!
Great Britain760 Posts
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paaltje
Netherlands359 Posts
GG ~ ~ | ||
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
On December 14 2005 10:53 Xeofreestyler wrote: ok here's what you do: Get a nydus canal, put it like next to your hive/lair/hatch whatever. Click a larva and tell it to build an overlord. Now tell your nydus canal to build an exit. (preferably close to the larvae) Then you click the egg and then hold control, press 1 and then quickly select the exit (while still holding the ctrl button) and click 1 again. Normally you should get an overlord interface now. Press esc or just cancel it with the button and normally your exit will pop and become a drone, voila! Oh and btw, this probably has got something to do with the latency thing on bnet. When I tried it offline it didnt work. Hmm.. If you have a rep as a proof of this bug, then I don't think it has something to do with the latency.. I thought reps only save map, actions, time, etc. Does reps save lag/latency too? LOL I'm confused. | ||
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greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
On December 15 2005 10:44 XtaC_hiryu wrote: Hmm.. If you have a rep as a proof of this bug, then I don't think it has something to do with the latency.. I thought reps only save map, actions, time, etc. Does reps save lag/latency too? LOL I'm confused. You're not getting the point. A rep only saves the exact actions performed in a game. When this action is possible to achieve through latency, latency still doesn't have anything to do with the replay... The fact that it doesn't work on single player speaks for itself anyway | ||
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
On December 15 2005 11:59 Xeofreestyler wrote: You're not getting the point. A rep only saves the exact actions performed in a game. When this action is possible to achieve through latency, latency still doesn't have anything to do with the replay... The fact that it doesn't work on single player speaks for itself anyway Uhmm.. OK. I guess I get it.. High latency allows you to do illegal actions, like in this case, cancel a nydus exit.. LOL more bugs will be discovered.. new patch pls. | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
On December 15 2005 14:29 ml1710 wrote: yeah, i had to switch it to extra high so i would be able to make a secret portal into toss' base LOL I was talking about the actual latency (ping) not the settings/options. I guess you have no knowledge about that. | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
Latency is packetloss. When its on extra-high latency there are less packets sent per second to minimize data-transfer, when there's just latency or 'lag' in a game pretty much the same thing happens except that its trying to send more packets which leads to lag (I think) (Thats also why turning on extra high latency in a micro game is completely retarded) | ||
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XtaC_hiryu
Philippines125 Posts
If you still don't understand, here a concrete BW example: In a laggy game, you order a marine to move. After half a second, it moves. Thats 500 ms of lag/ping/latency, whatever you want to call it. | ||
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alphaentity
United States525 Posts
Please stay on topic As I've said before, this bug CAN be exploited especially in long games...cause its not that hard to do. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On December 15 2005 15:02 alphaentity wrote: This is not a latency discussion Please stay on topic As I've said before, this bug CAN be exploited especially in long games...cause its not that hard to do. True, but also, who is that "FOCUSED" on doing the bug, that wil pay more attention on doing a silly bug than being worried about killing expas, making units, microing your units, trying to not get fucked already? I know it is easy to do, but I do not think that much people will bother to do this in serious games. | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
In public games it might be done vs unexpecting newblars Oh well, just dont play pubbies. Nothing new there ^^ | ||
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pr0n
United States277 Posts
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On December 15 2005 14:35 XtaC_hiryu wrote: LOL I was talking about the actual latency (ping) not the settings/options. I guess you have no knowledge about that. stfu geek | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
Ok for those who wanna try this out offline (and don't know how to), make a lan game vs a computer and when you want to do the trick set it to extra high latency. I've been playing around with this trick like trying it on different units etc. For example if you morph an archon, then use the trick to give it a "cancel" command, youll crash sc by trying the cancel the morph. YOu'll also crash sc trying to "cancel" a siege tank which is siegeing/unsieging. But the most disturbing thing I found was that you can use the trick on opponents buildings, giving you the ability to tell the building speicific commands. I've only so far been able to set the rally point of a computer's barracks and command center so far by using a dark templar (you can use any unit cause all you need to do is right click and it sets the rally point) but I'm sure if you use the same building and do the trick you'll be able to make the opponent building build units and cancel them etc. I'm gonna try this out on bnet with a friend now to see if it works on bnet and not just vs computer. | ||
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NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Or like...fuck up their build. You don't want your mass hydra/ling strategy countered by his templar building? Make him warp in goons instead! Go 6fact vult and change his goon unit production to zealot unit production. lmfao | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
I tested it out with this guy on bnet and yeah the siege tank cancel thing crashes bw easy. So if you don't want to play vs someone, just get a siege tank with siege mode ability and BOOM lol. | ||
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greatmeh
Canada1964 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On December 19 2005 22:53 Neverborn wrote: If you load the drone into an overlord, the nydus canal exit is at the spot where you picked the drone up. So you can drop/pickup a drone in the enemy base and leave... only way to destroy the exit is to take out the entrance Holy shit, now THAT can be REALLY bad. | ||
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