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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
May 20 2012 17:50 GMT
#381
On May 21 2012 00:14 TaShadan wrote:
well thats only one side of the truth.
sc2 was failing in korea compared to LoL thats why blizzard "forced" kespa to switch
kespa has not much to say here cause they lost the last sue to blizzard (about the bw streaming rights)
so without blizzard kespa is not able to broadcast broodwar

and yes all games were bad bw and sc2

Funny, nobody lost in the lawsuit, and KeSPA was streaming BW without Blizzard's permission during the lawsuit.
ppp
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 20 2012 17:55 GMT
#382
On May 21 2012 02:28 RonNation wrote:
too many qq'rs after one night of matches


indeed. i for one was entertained
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
zazone
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania460 Posts
May 20 2012 18:04 GMT
#383
Kespa's reaction

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Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?-Adolf Hitler
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 20 2012 19:27 GMT
#384
SNM, what are the korean netizen's reactions?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 19:32:07
May 20 2012 19:31 GMT
#385
Blizzard kept the SC BW scene alive by not allowing Kespa and OGN to do SC2. If it wasn't for Blizzard, they would have made a switch way way earlier, like right away.
Not to mention it lost Blizzard a shitton of money.

Thank you Blizzard for yout stupidity. Honestly, thank you.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 19:41:59
May 20 2012 19:40 GMT
#386
Well there was some funny games, but they are really behind skillwise, they have the build orders and mechanics, but either dont understand the strategy or cannot execute them.
I dont know if this is overall a good idea or not, only future can tell. I hope for the best and try to enjoy the games aslong as possible
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 20 2012 20:02 GMT
#387
It was pretty much what everyone should have expected. The SC2 games were terrible because these guys are nowhere near professional level and when all you have is mechanics and reaction time, Protoss roflstomps everything because there's not nearly as much strategy or micro required to win. I wouldn't expect things to improve until the full switch happens.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 20:08:41
May 20 2012 20:08 GMT
#388
On May 21 2012 04:31 Miyoshino wrote:
Blizzard kept the SC BW scene alive by not allowing Kespa and OGN to do SC2. If it wasn't for Blizzard, they would have made a switch way way earlier, like right away.
Not to mention it lost Blizzard a shitton of money.

Thank you Blizzard for yout stupidity. Honestly, thank you.

What an uninformed post. So it was stupid from Blizzard to not let BW die earlier? Kespa wasn't exactly eager to switch to SC2.

What a horrible post.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 20 2012 20:20 GMT
#389
I actually enjoyed the show for what it was. My favorite sport on display with my favorite teams and players. Watching FBH play as protoss felt great because it's nice to see him perform again. Though I will miss his terran. There were some great games today and they had some fun with SC2. It wasn't MVP vs. Squirtle skills, but it was just as entertaining (ok, slightly less entertaining than game 5 ^^).
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
May 20 2012 20:21 GMT
#390
I think the top 10 BW players should keep playing broodwar to give their team some free wins
It was a pretty big mistake to send Flash and Jaedong to play Sc2 today imo.
Flash isn't nicknamed God for his Sc2 carrier... ( yet ^^ )
rly ?
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 20:30:01
May 20 2012 20:29 GMT
#391
I apologize if I'm misinformed.

I read a few posts on this thread which state the teams will divide BW players nad SC2 players to allow concentrated practice. However, I remember reading somewhere that a player must play SC2 if s/he played a match of BW already. I assumed this is to prevent specialized players who will be at a great disadvantage when Proleague turns completely SC2 (sadly).
Play Terran
Sumsi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany593 Posts
May 20 2012 20:31 GMT
#392
On May 21 2012 02:55 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 02:28 RonNation wrote:
too many qq'rs after one night of matches


indeed. i for one was entertained


+1
I also thought it was fun to watch. Watching some of my BW heros figuring out a new game was entertainment enough for me.

It's interesting to see what these guys can do after practicing the game for just a few weeks. I expect them to kick some serious butts when they start to practise SC2 fulltime.

I wonder how they will be integrated into the international scene + GSL/GSTL though.
moin
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 20 2012 20:37 GMT
#393
On May 21 2012 05:21 algue wrote:
I think the top 10 BW players should keep playing broodwar to give their team some free wins
It was a pretty big mistake to send Flash and Jaedong to play Sc2 today imo.
Flash isn't nicknamed God for his Sc2 carrier... ( yet ^^ )

You can't do that. If you are set to play BW one week you have to play SC2 before you can play BW again. Thats why this format is getting alot of flak because the quality of the games will suffer alot on both ends. It would indeed have been the best if the teams just made their own inhouse BW and SC2 teams for this Proleague season.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 20:43:22
May 20 2012 20:42 GMT
#394
I dreamed about Flash's face expression when effort killed him off after 14 minutes gameplay. So ya, if nothing else it was entertaining watching top Broodwar players being slaughtered in SC2. And let's not even talk about JD's zerg play. Will be interesting to see where the Broodwar A-teamers will be in half a year though.
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 20:53:52
May 20 2012 20:43 GMT
#395
This format is discrimination against BW. They should make the GSL or GSTL mixed leagues as well. B-team level BW can be entertaining sometimes. They should have them play LoL too. That would be of great benefit to the Cult of Esports.

And to anyone saying "lol @ all the qq butthurt fans", my anus is like "NOOO BLIZZARD NOOO KESPA NOOOOO" and Blizzard and Kespa are just like "yeeeeeehaw! take it, bitch, take it."

But like an abused housewife I'll keep coming back to watch anyway. Maybe even when the league is drunk with SC2, I'll check it out in the vain hope that it won't be as bad as I fear it would be, but then it's inevitably just "Oh god JD's massing one unit that doesn't do anything except shoot and is getting raped by a ball of other generic units oh god" "nooo flash, effort please stop...please."

DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
May 20 2012 20:48 GMT
#396
On May 21 2012 05:43 reincremate wrote:
This format is discrimination against BW. They should make the GSL or GSTL mixed leagues as well. B-team level BW can be entertaining sometimes. They should have them play LoL too. That would be of great benefit to the Cult of Esports.

And to anyone saying lol @ all the qq butthurt fans, my anus is like "NOOO BLIZZARD NOOO KESPA NOOOOO" and Blizzard and Kespa are just like "hoooweee take it, bitch, take it."



haha :D
i think it's a great format.
It creates a lot of cool stories!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 20 2012 20:49 GMT
#397
On May 21 2012 05:43 reincremate wrote:
This format is discrimination against BW. They should make the GSL or GSTL mixed leagues as well. B-team level BW can be entertaining sometimes. They should have them play LoL too. That would be of great benefit to the Cult of Esports.

And to anyone saying "lol @ all the qq butthurt fans", my anus is like "NOOO BLIZZARD NOOO KESPA NOOOOO" and Blizzard and Kespa are just like "yeeeeeehaw! take it, bitch, take it."



You managed to make 0 sense in that post, quite an achievement.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 20 2012 20:58 GMT
#398
On May 21 2012 05:43 reincremate wrote:
This format is discrimination against BW. They should make the GSL or GSTL mixed leagues as well. B-team level BW can be entertaining sometimes. They should have them play LoL too. That would be of great benefit to the Cult of Esports.

And to anyone saying "lol @ all the qq butthurt fans", my anus is like "NOOO BLIZZARD NOOO KESPA NOOOOO" and Blizzard and Kespa are just like "yeeeeeehaw! take it, bitch, take it."

But like an abused housewife I'll keep coming back to watch anyway. Maybe even when the league is drunk with SC2, I'll check it out in the vain hope that it won't be as bad as I fear it would be, but then it's inevitably just "Oh god JD's massing one unit that doesn't do anything except shoot and is getting raped by a ball of other generic units oh god" "nooo flash, effort please stop...please."


Finally someone explains it in terms I can understand :D GSL & GSTL should definitely play brood war as well
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
May 20 2012 21:03 GMT
#399
On May 21 2012 04:27 blubbdavid wrote:
SNM, what are the korean netizen's reactions?


I'm also interested in knowing this.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
May 20 2012 21:16 GMT
#400
On May 21 2012 06:03 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 04:27 blubbdavid wrote:
SNM, what are the korean netizen's reactions?


I'm also interested in knowing this.

Would have a lot more say about this if there were more comments, I'm trying to find more ATM but I'm too lazy to (enjoying home =P)

General overview: Some fans are asking OGN to start 16 stream, others are saying that if they give SC2 a chance, people will start liking it. That's on top of people saying: Those who cheered on today for SC2 only did so because of the teams/players. But stating this out of 8 comments (about) isn't saying much from fomos. I'll try to find more comments later.

The article written by fomos, however, states that there weren't as many fans who visited the opening matches for Season 2 compared to Season 1. We should just move onto LoL which secured 8k+ audiences at the live finals (jking about moving on, but yes LoL Champions finals had 8k+ audience)
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