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On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler +
That is fucking annoying. Seeing JD facial expression, he clearly was disapointed.
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On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler +
no respect. no genuine interest outside players they've heard mentioned in passing.
+ Show Spoiler +but of course they all were such big fans before SC2...
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You motivated me to finally make a reddit account today. Good sir, you have my vote(s)!
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Edit: Fail posting
good luck. I haven't played BW for a long time but I still watch it and support everything related to it :D
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Promoting BW on reddit feels more like negative exposure than anything. The whole site is such a shitfest of immaturity and poor forum design that I don't understand why anyone would spend time on it. 
Honestly, I really don't think BW can be saved by giving it some exposure to people outside of Korea - especially if they're as uninterested with it as the majority of the SC2 players on TL. And even if you manage to get people to watch more streams, they're just restreams of Korean TV, which makes viewer numbers quite pointless I'm afraid.
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I upvote bw threads on r/starcraft. The upvoters are not very smart indeed, but the quality of most comments is not as bad as some of you make it sound.
I think as long as we don't spam thread, it can only be good advertisement. Foreign tournaments and streams could use some exposure. Making a thread about Michael's or KC's stream for instance, explaining who they are and why they are entertaining seems like a great idea. It's easy, I don't really see any drawback (except a few more trolls in chat at worst), so why not ?
And yeah some posts there are annoying and ignorant, but hey, that's life, and it's not like there are none on tl.
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On April 28 2012 18:13 sushiman wrote:Promoting BW on reddit feels more like negative exposure than anything. The whole site is such a shitfest of immaturity and poor forum design that I don't understand why anyone would spend time on it. Honestly, I really don't think BW can be saved by giving it some exposure to people outside of Korea - especially if they're as uninterested with it as the majority of the SC2 players on TL. And even if you manage to get people to watch more streams, they're just restreams of Korean TV, which makes viewer numbers quite pointless I'm afraid.
Much better to just sit around and whine.
If we get one out of ten SC2 fans interested in BW, we've increased the size of the scene so much it starts to make sense to have BW at MLG, especially now that KeSPA and MLG are apparently BFFs.
Something to consider.
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Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site.
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I upvoted the "omg flash on 13 win streak" posts a few months ago on reddit. AmA
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On April 28 2012 18:38 RockIronrod wrote:
Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site.
Its traffic bro. and for BW tourneys to be sustainable, they need traffic to attract sponsors like Altitude, twitch etc.
Game is 100% right on this, it is something that has to be done if we want the BW scene to survive.
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On April 28 2012 18:39 storkfan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 18:38 RockIronrod wrote:
Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site. Its traffic bro. and for BW tourneys to be sustainable, they need traffic to attract sponsors like Altitude, twitch etc
It's Reddit traffic. They'll attract sponsors as well as you'd expect 4chan's barely pubescent brother would.
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On April 28 2012 18:41 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 18:39 storkfan wrote:On April 28 2012 18:38 RockIronrod wrote:
Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site. Its traffic bro. and for BW tourneys to be sustainable, they need traffic to attract sponsors like Altitude, twitch etc It's Reddit traffic. They'll attract sponsors as well as you'd expect 4chan's barely pubescent brother would.
Look, reddit is a mainstream site. The big masses of people visit it. So it isnt very intellectual or indepth, that is the way a mainstream site is by definition. But the traffic still increases the value of a BW tourney for sponsors. Would a business want to sponsor a tourney with 500 or 1000 viewers? Obviously the 1000 viewer one is significantly more valuable even if you dont like all the viewers.
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On April 28 2012 15:18 Taku wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately. I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site.
No, that is just what Reddit is.
This is a section of Reddit entirely devoted to how Reddit is crappy.
The real kicker is that the subreddit devoted to why Reddit is terrible is, itself, terrible in its own ways.
Also, "Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."
That did not happen until February 12, 2012 and it has only a 51% approval rating.
Yeah.
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BW also needs a general thread at subreddit slashveegeeslash.
Upvote xDDD
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On April 28 2012 18:45 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:18 Taku wrote:On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately. I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site. No, that is just what Reddit is. This is a section of Reddit entirely devoted to how Reddit is crappy. Also, "Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."That did not happen until February 12, 2012 and it has only a 51% approval rating. Yeah.
the approval ratings of popular topics are randomized to prevent bot abuse.
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On April 28 2012 18:45 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:18 Taku wrote:On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately. I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site. No, that is just what Reddit is. This is a section of Reddit entirely devoted to how Reddit is crappy. Also, "Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."That did not happen until February 12, 2012 and it has only a 51% approval rating. Yeah.
It really depends on what parts of Reddit you look at.
Of course, there are subreddits like /r/circlejerk and /r/spacedicks as well a lot of other rather profane subreddits, and there used to be /r/jailbait. But there are also very mature subreddits like /r/TrueReddit, /r/economics, and /r/programming. Heck, Reddit looks very different if you unsubscribe from many of the mainstream subreddits and subscribe to the smaller, more mature ones.
Also, the approval rating and the upvote/downvote counters are very inaccurate for posts with lots of upvotes. Apparently, they purposely do this to discourage mass upvote abuse, which is something that most communities don't need to worry about. However, I'm not surprised at the people who would be unhappy with that change. Reddit has traditionally been a heavily self-moderating community, though each subreddit moderates differently. Heck, there was a HUGE shitstorm on /r/starcraft when it came to light that mods actively removed posts that were considered spam, as a lot of people thought that that was unjust censorship and that the users should have the power to discriminate between which posts are legitimate or not, not the mods.
But anyways, in general, it's hard to generalize Reddit, just as it's hard to generalize any large community. You could say that Teamliquid is home to nazi mods and elitist BW grandfathers, but those are grossly inaccurate stereotypes.
edit: 4999 posts; gg :o
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I think you guys are going way off topic about how reddit is bad, and not contemplating the possibility of procuring needed views and special interests that BW needs, or that the simplicity of it is the community coming together to make a couple clicks for the utilitarian good.
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As much as I think reddit is overrated, I'm with you on this.
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Hate reddit but will do it for love of the game
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On April 28 2012 16:08 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:03 rUiNati0n wrote:On April 28 2012 15:56 lastkarrde wrote:
There are active, quality posters on /r/broodwar . /r/starcraft is just a spammy, witch hunting circlejerk. If the goal is to attract more people to the scene, I don't think posting just in /r/broodwar is going to cut it. My point exactly.
Seconded. Getting our events out, any way we can, is how to move forward.
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