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+ Show Spoiler [Disclaimer] + This is not about bashing SC2 or my thoughts about SC2 being bad, it is simple observation on what we (BW players) are competing against.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/
I want to start this thread out with that link. Why? Look at the name. We have our own section on reddit and we don't use it. I'm pretty sure half of the people who read this topic know what reddit is, or at least heard of it, but never actively used it. Yet, we need to start using it. Today was my "k we need to do this" sign when I refereed Gambit's Cup Finals Day 2, and persuaded the 300 active viewers who pretty much always watch every major BW event and BW stream whom were there to make accounts and upvote the very simple re-link of our stream for the event. With 10 upvote's +50 viewers. The second it hit the front page +250. We literally almost doubled the population by being the first to last post on the front page of reddit's StarCraft section. I'm not sure of the exact figures of reddit, but millions upon millions of people sit there and read it all day long. Example 2: Ribbon Classic. I hosted a small niche tournament for a valued member of TeamLiquid whose primarily goal is to bring an understanding and appreciation between BW and SC2 players. The tournament had 550 viewers, being casted by Sayle. We soon frontpaged it on reddit and jumped to 1,200 viewers as the 6th post. With enough upvotes, we were 2nd. We ended up ending the stream with an average of 1800 viewers and a peak of 2080.
Now, in general this would just be another moot idea of advertising another site, but look at the facts. It's the "StarCraft" section. Creating an account takes less than 30 seconds and simply involves making a name and a password. You save this on your browser and then click an up arrow 80% up on the top left of the screen. Bam, that sole contribution paired with a couple here and a couple there, and we just introduced reddit's SC section, dominated by SC2 players to BW events. Unlike BW players, SC2 players love our game, and if they don't, they respect it. More importantly, SC2 is more interactive in their community and thus they watch a lot of streams rather than sit and play 14 hours a day like you need to in BW. The first time I used reddit for Ribbon Classic, I saw a bunch of names claiming to be SC2 players and how much they love what they're seeing. A select number of those names are now regularly in not only my events, but every major BW event's stream and I recognize them, well knowing the first time they saw a BW event was through reddit and one of my events. The majority of those guys/girls have since talked about playing BW. This is one benefit.
Another benefit is exposure. Events thrive on sponsors, whom thrive on exposure. A good event heavily promotes their sponsor and whatever product they have. Doubling viewership or even tripling it is a sight that every organizer dreams to see. Well, as (mainly) foreign BW players, all we have to do is make an account, save it on our browser, and click an arrow every time someone spams a reddit link for the event their viewing. The exposure is not only good for foreign BW and those events, hence I've kept "BW events" vague thus far. The majority of a time a progamer is streaming on Twitch.TV or TL, someone posts it on reddit and it stays as the first or second thing on reddit. Same goes for proleague, OSL, and others. With community support to help essentially bump up threads about foreign BW events or their own streams, together through simple efforts we can balance out the "StarCraft" section of reddit that has been overrun by SC2 players, events, and news.
tl;dr Reddit is a great source for exposure and an ideal way to induce foreign non-BW players to come to the dark side, make an account and start actively upvoting the reddit links you see when watching a stream.
I'm not sure it's entirely legal on TL to advertise another site in this sense despite the altruistic nature of the post. But I do want to know if people agree with me and or are willing to go through a strenuous effort of 2 left clicks to support the community they hold so dear.
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I just made a reddit account today for League of Legends.
I can also do what you're asking.
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On April 28 2012 12:45 jpak wrote:
I just made a reddit account today for League of Legends.
I can also do what you're asking.
Much obliged.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
I don't particularly like reddit but i'll do it if it helps.
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I have been using it a lot lately, and the results are undeniably positive. If necessary, we as a community of TL could simply test it by uploading some random players stream and spam upvoting it simply to show the effects.
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I have been posting in that sub for a while, thanks for bringing it to light (will hope that the scum stay away ^^).
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I will upvote things since I already have a Reddit account. Posting links to r/starcraft threads in the tournament threads on TL will make it easy to direct people to Reddit to upvote and make a comment or two.
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I hate reddit, but because it will help BW, I'll do it. I love BW far more than I could ever hate reddit!
Long live BW ^^
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BroodWar also needs Tumblr.
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As someone who used to play a ton of BW and uses Reddit a lot, I would like to point out that most of us LOVE BW content, but there's not generally a whole ton of available content right now. Anything posted there I will help out, though.
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I'm mainly a SC2 player/fan but I like when Brood War stuff pops up on Reddit because I enjoy the history and like checking out games every now and then. I just don't know when they are or where they are as consistently so I have trouble finding it without Reddit. I'll start upvoting them more consistently.
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Anything. At this point in BW's life, we can't really be choosy.
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I made an account not too long ago, and i've always upvoted anything BW related that I came across, be it rumor thread or tournament thread
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i'd like to add that only upvoting quality content will help the cause. If too much broodwar stuff is "forced" to the frontpage, then there will most likely will be some backlash and some people will autodownvote BW links. Not saying this isn't a good idea, just don't blindly upvote every qualifier or guy streaming D+ and save it for the tournament finals and stuff so that you make more of an impact.
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Reddit steals souls. Prepare to spend hours scrolling and scrolling 2 hours before your project is due. >
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On April 28 2012 14:42 rUiNati0n wrote:
i'd like to add that only upvoting quality content will help the cause. If too much broodwar stuff is "forced" to the frontpage, then there will most likely will be some backlash and some people will autodownvote BW links. Not saying this isn't a good idea, just don't blindly upvote every qualifier or guy streaming D+ and save it for the tournament finals and stuff so that you make more of an impact.
You might also trigger their group-voting scripts. I'm not sure rallying TL to upvote threads on reddit is a good idea.
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On April 28 2012 14:42 rUiNati0n wrote:
i'd like to add that only upvoting quality content will help the cause. If too much broodwar stuff is "forced" to the frontpage, then there will most likely will be some backlash and some people will autodownvote BW links. Not saying this isn't a good idea, just don't blindly upvote every qualifier or guy streaming D+ and save it for the tournament finals and stuff so that you make more of an impact.
This is correct. I'd advise people to upvote only when Starleague is about to take place.
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I honestly would never want to be associated with r/starcraft
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I'd rather stick with /r/broodwar if I have to even though there's 380 readers..r/starcraft is just a bunch of hive mind posts and image macros.
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I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately.
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On April 28 2012 15:08 Epithet wrote:
I'd rather stick with /r/broodwar if I have to even though there's 380 readers..r/starcraft is just a bunch of hive mind posts and image macros.
See, I'm new to reddit although I've been linked to it and known about it for just about ever, thus I just learned that /r/broodwar existed. It will definitely be a new place to post. Tyvm Epithet.
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On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately.
I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site.
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I'm afraid to go to reddit.
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On April 28 2012 15:08 Epithet wrote:
I'd rather stick with /r/broodwar if I have to even though there's 380 readers..r/starcraft is just a bunch of hive mind posts and image macros.
You should definitely stick with /r/broodwar if that's what you prefer but maybe we could all glance at /r/starcraft every so often to upvote brood war events and give them exposure, which I believe is the point of the OP.
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On April 28 2012 15:08 Epithet wrote:
I'd rather stick with /r/broodwar if I have to even though there's 380 readers..r/starcraft is just a bunch of hive mind posts and image macros.
But a lot more people read /r/starcraft. Upvoting content on /r/starcraft increases awareness of BW in the general Starcraft community, especially among SC2 fans. Staying in /r/broodwar does nothing to increase BW awareness.
And perhaps image macros are a lot more useful than one might expect. Yesterday, the image macros of that hand-raising Flash meme was all the rage. Today, there is a well-upvoted and well-commented post asking for old BW vods of Flash games after all that hype about Flash playing SC2.
And if BW is as good of a game as you think, then it should easily be able to attract open-minded SC2 fans skimming through the subreddit. Of course, there will be trolls and anti-BW folks, but their opinions can be downvoted if you don't want to waste your time arguing against them.
I have friends who browse /r/starcraft waaaaaay more than Teamliquid, and I have some that only browse /r/starcraft exclusively for their Starcraft content. It's a general Starcrat subreddit dedicated to all things Starcraft, unlike Teamliquid which has an obsession with keeping threads and content neatly segregated into their proper places.
I, for one, would love to see more BW content in /r/starcraft. The curious would become the new fans that the scene so badly needs, and the ignorant trolls would be downvoted into oblivion.
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On April 28 2012 15:08 Epithet wrote:
I'd rather stick with /r/broodwar if I have to even though there's 380 readers..r/starcraft is just a bunch of hive mind posts and image macros.
yeah I unsubbed from /r/starcraft shortly sc2 was released. It became memes and rage comics.
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@eviltomahawk simply vote and everything would be in /r/starcraft. During 500 viewer casts of ISL I've posted reddit's and gotten 6 upvotes because people don't see reddit as the utility that it is. I think I'll start bumping this thread as well as my own tournament threads on TL with reddit links.
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I really dislike reddit. The posting standards are so low. I am more into SC2 and /r/starcraft is so horrible. Sure it has a lot of readers but the quality of posts is so low.
Overall reddit is good for exposure but the kind of people you get exposed to leak over to teamliquid and lower the overall quality of the SC2 and general forums.(Especially lr threads)
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I think this thread is working out perfectly. Despite 3 names, one being someone who just posts in everything just to post in everything, I have never seen any of your names posting in the same BW content as myself.
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There are active, quality posters on /r/broodwar . /r/starcraft is just a spammy, witch hunting circlejerk.
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On April 28 2012 15:56 lastkarrde wrote:
There are active, quality posters on /r/broodwar . /r/starcraft is just a spammy, witch hunting circlejerk.
If the goal is to attract more people to the scene, I don't think posting just in /r/broodwar is going to cut it.
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On April 28 2012 16:03 rUiNati0n wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:56 lastkarrde wrote:
There are active, quality posters on /r/broodwar . /r/starcraft is just a spammy, witch hunting circlejerk. If the goal is to attract more people to the scene, I don't think posting just in /r/broodwar is going to cut it.
My point exactly.
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@Game; about 6-8 months ago I would have said shove it because of your previous actions and violations within the brood war community, but as of recent with all your promotion of the Foreign Tournaments and players, and still being true to the game that you still love to watch and play, the respect that was diminished before is slowly returning back to you with your passion that seems burn with a fire made of the same flame that lights the torch for the olympic games. I thank you for how you have changed and made quite the difference within this community, even if everyone is not a fan of you.
Even as I'm a person that doesn't ever use reddit for any reason, I will be willing to create an account for reddit and upvote broodwar events.
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To my defense, there is two sides to a story, and only mine surfaced because it was forced. Regardless, actions do speak louder than words and I appreciate you acknowledging that.
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I would much rather have people make /r/broodwar more popular. Use /r/starcraft for gaining support and bringing in new fans, but never as the "base of operations" of BW on reddit, the thought...eww...
Reddit has a lot of great niche communities but /r/starcraft is far from one of them.
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i forgot my reddit account, made for this purpose, but ill make another one asap
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On April 28 2012 16:35 Ruscour wrote:
I would much rather have people make /r/broodwar more popular. Use /r/starcraft for gaining support and bringing in new fans, but never as the "base of operations" of BW on reddit, the thought...eww...
Reddit has a lot of great niche communities but /r/starcraft is far from one of them.
Yeah I agree with this.
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/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach.
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On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach.
Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post.
"JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face+ Show Spoiler +
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On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler +
That is fucking annoying. Seeing JD facial expression, he clearly was disapointed.
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On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler +
no respect. no genuine interest outside players they've heard mentioned in passing.
+ Show Spoiler +but of course they all were such big fans before SC2...
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You motivated me to finally make a reddit account today. Good sir, you have my vote(s)!
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Edit: Fail posting
good luck. I haven't played BW for a long time but I still watch it and support everything related to it :D
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Promoting BW on reddit feels more like negative exposure than anything. The whole site is such a shitfest of immaturity and poor forum design that I don't understand why anyone would spend time on it. 
Honestly, I really don't think BW can be saved by giving it some exposure to people outside of Korea - especially if they're as uninterested with it as the majority of the SC2 players on TL. And even if you manage to get people to watch more streams, they're just restreams of Korean TV, which makes viewer numbers quite pointless I'm afraid.
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I upvote bw threads on r/starcraft. The upvoters are not very smart indeed, but the quality of most comments is not as bad as some of you make it sound.
I think as long as we don't spam thread, it can only be good advertisement. Foreign tournaments and streams could use some exposure. Making a thread about Michael's or KC's stream for instance, explaining who they are and why they are entertaining seems like a great idea. It's easy, I don't really see any drawback (except a few more trolls in chat at worst), so why not ?
And yeah some posts there are annoying and ignorant, but hey, that's life, and it's not like there are none on tl.
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On April 28 2012 18:13 sushiman wrote:Promoting BW on reddit feels more like negative exposure than anything. The whole site is such a shitfest of immaturity and poor forum design that I don't understand why anyone would spend time on it. Honestly, I really don't think BW can be saved by giving it some exposure to people outside of Korea - especially if they're as uninterested with it as the majority of the SC2 players on TL. And even if you manage to get people to watch more streams, they're just restreams of Korean TV, which makes viewer numbers quite pointless I'm afraid.
Much better to just sit around and whine.
If we get one out of ten SC2 fans interested in BW, we've increased the size of the scene so much it starts to make sense to have BW at MLG, especially now that KeSPA and MLG are apparently BFFs.
Something to consider.
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Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site.
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I upvoted the "omg flash on 13 win streak" posts a few months ago on reddit. AmA
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On April 28 2012 18:38 RockIronrod wrote:
Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site.
Its traffic bro. and for BW tourneys to be sustainable, they need traffic to attract sponsors like Altitude, twitch etc.
Game is 100% right on this, it is something that has to be done if we want the BW scene to survive.
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On April 28 2012 18:39 storkfan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 18:38 RockIronrod wrote:
Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site. Its traffic bro. and for BW tourneys to be sustainable, they need traffic to attract sponsors like Altitude, twitch etc
It's Reddit traffic. They'll attract sponsors as well as you'd expect 4chan's barely pubescent brother would.
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On April 28 2012 18:41 RockIronrod wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 18:39 storkfan wrote:On April 28 2012 18:38 RockIronrod wrote:
Saying Broodwar needs Reddit is a vast overstatement. You highly overrate the site. Its traffic bro. and for BW tourneys to be sustainable, they need traffic to attract sponsors like Altitude, twitch etc It's Reddit traffic. They'll attract sponsors as well as you'd expect 4chan's barely pubescent brother would.
Look, reddit is a mainstream site. The big masses of people visit it. So it isnt very intellectual or indepth, that is the way a mainstream site is by definition. But the traffic still increases the value of a BW tourney for sponsors. Would a business want to sponsor a tourney with 500 or 1000 viewers? Obviously the 1000 viewer one is significantly more valuable even if you dont like all the viewers.
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On April 28 2012 15:18 Taku wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately. I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site.
No, that is just what Reddit is.
This is a section of Reddit entirely devoted to how Reddit is crappy.
The real kicker is that the subreddit devoted to why Reddit is terrible is, itself, terrible in its own ways.
Also, "Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."
That did not happen until February 12, 2012 and it has only a 51% approval rating.
Yeah.
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Russian Federation484 Posts
BW also needs a general thread at subreddit slashveegeeslash.
Upvote xDDD
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On April 28 2012 18:45 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:18 Taku wrote:On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately. I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site. No, that is just what Reddit is. This is a section of Reddit entirely devoted to how Reddit is crappy. Also, "Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."That did not happen until February 12, 2012 and it has only a 51% approval rating. Yeah.
the approval ratings of popular topics are randomized to prevent bot abuse.
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On April 28 2012 18:45 Tehs Tehklz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 15:18 Taku wrote:On April 28 2012 15:11 Game wrote:
I did not mean that we should upvote low value content. By streams I meant when a top foreigner or amazing player is streaming, or local team events like KOTH's that provide a lot of depth and exposure for top teams that consist of structure. Also, I understand that some people auto-upvote BW content, but never see it because it's sitting on the the third page with 6-8 upvotes. The effort here is not only to come together as a community, but to encourage the silent viewers to act on the causes they so valiantly support privately. I honestly like to think of r/starcraft as the place where all the users banned from Teamliquid go to or something, how else can you explain the atrocious quality of content there? I know it's a generalization and there are plenty of good apples but it's not worth the trouble imo when you've already got this site. No, that is just what Reddit is. This is a section of Reddit entirely devoted to how Reddit is crappy. Also, "Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors."That did not happen until February 12, 2012 and it has only a 51% approval rating. Yeah.
It really depends on what parts of Reddit you look at.
Of course, there are subreddits like /r/circlejerk and /r/spacedicks as well a lot of other rather profane subreddits, and there used to be /r/jailbait. But there are also very mature subreddits like /r/TrueReddit, /r/economics, and /r/programming. Heck, Reddit looks very different if you unsubscribe from many of the mainstream subreddits and subscribe to the smaller, more mature ones.
Also, the approval rating and the upvote/downvote counters are very inaccurate for posts with lots of upvotes. Apparently, they purposely do this to discourage mass upvote abuse, which is something that most communities don't need to worry about. However, I'm not surprised at the people who would be unhappy with that change. Reddit has traditionally been a heavily self-moderating community, though each subreddit moderates differently. Heck, there was a HUGE shitstorm on /r/starcraft when it came to light that mods actively removed posts that were considered spam, as a lot of people thought that that was unjust censorship and that the users should have the power to discriminate between which posts are legitimate or not, not the mods.
But anyways, in general, it's hard to generalize Reddit, just as it's hard to generalize any large community. You could say that Teamliquid is home to nazi mods and elitist BW grandfathers, but those are grossly inaccurate stereotypes.
edit: 4999 posts; gg :o
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I think you guys are going way off topic about how reddit is bad, and not contemplating the possibility of procuring needed views and special interests that BW needs, or that the simplicity of it is the community coming together to make a couple clicks for the utilitarian good.
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As much as I think reddit is overrated, I'm with you on this.
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Hate reddit but will do it for love of the game
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On April 28 2012 16:08 Game wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:03 rUiNati0n wrote:On April 28 2012 15:56 lastkarrde wrote:
There are active, quality posters on /r/broodwar . /r/starcraft is just a spammy, witch hunting circlejerk. If the goal is to attract more people to the scene, I don't think posting just in /r/broodwar is going to cut it. My point exactly.
Seconded. Getting our events out, any way we can, is how to move forward.
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Any ideas about how we can garner interest in tomorrow's ODT match without a big name like Jaedong? If we're going to do this, perhaps in the post someone link Sea's TL Attack! Youtube videos?
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH4p-yyEUoo
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Also, maybe some history/background info/play style about Soukey, Shine, Last, and Sea? Not sure. Maybe more ppl can brainstorm. I wish Day[9] would still cast OSL...that would solve people gaining interest in BW.
Thirdly, when someone makes a /r/starcraft post should you edit the OP so we don't have to navigate through several pages to find which post to upvote? Dunno if you need to..just throwing out thoughts.
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On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler +
its not a normal top voted comment, its the OP, so its always gonna be on top obviously.
But yeah its annoying as fuck
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Shine > Bisu = an angle someone can play with. :p Last = TvT monster, Sea = ProLeague bonjwa until this last season, and Soulkey = usurper to Jaedong?
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On April 28 2012 20:42 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler + its not a normal top voted comment, its the OP, so its always gonna be on top obviously. But yeah its annoying as fuck
Nah, it's a normal top voted comment. OP was Dirtysocks1 (what a name -_-) & the comment was by minzminzminzy..but yah it's still annoying. I'm over it though.
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On April 28 2012 21:06 Epithet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 20:42 7mk wrote:On April 28 2012 17:17 Epithet wrote:On April 28 2012 16:52 Gamegene wrote:
/r/ starcraft's views on BW make me sick to my stomach. Seriously. I'll gladly upvote a BW post on r/starcraft, but a few hours after Jaedong loses in ODT and I see this self post. " JD loosing to Rush and then Hyvaa. While this is sad, now he can focus full on sc2." The top comment in that post? An image macro with Bisu's face + Show Spoiler + its not a normal top voted comment, its the OP, so its always gonna be on top obviously. But yeah its annoying as fuck Nah, it's a normal top voted comment. OP was Dirtysocks1 (what a name -_-) & the comment was by minzminzminzy..but yah it's still annoying. I'm over it though.
oh whoops i misunderstood what you were saying
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I hate Reddit, but your figures convinced me. I'll upvote BW stuffs.
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I can't seem to see it on the main /r/starcraft page. I think this may be stuck in the spam filter, maybe because it uses tinyurl. .
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i will join if it helps, but i dont really go on reddit
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@rUiNati0n, just learned about the tinyurl thing
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Just a note, it would be helpful if in the description you mention that that is an english rebroadcasting of odt and how that's helpful to learning about broodwar over a comment stressing a certain player. The average redditor is not going to know who is in group f, and they probably won't know who sea is.
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Just made an account.
And also just noticed the bunch of assholes who downvoted the OSL rebroadcast right now( 30% at least, wow...).
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On April 30 2012 01:10 Arkqn wrote:
Just made an account.
And also just noticed the bunch of assholes who downvoted the OSL rebroadcast right now( 30% at least, wow...).
Reddit has bots that auto down-vote and up-vote popular threads in order to hide the true vote counts from people who are trying to cheat with vote-buying or botting.
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yes, sir
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On May 13 2012 08:03 slappy wrote:Looking at /starcraft, it is polluted with tons of sc2 stuff :/ + Show Spoiler +
Seriously?
Listen do you want BW content or not, it's really that simple.
If the sheer presence of SC2 stuff on /starcraft means you won't support/read/get involved with BW stuff on it then why are you even bothering to post in this thread. Half the goddamn forum has turned into whining babies who would rather rant and rave about SC2 then talk about BW. We all get it you hate SC2 but seriously if you hate SC2 more then you like BW you need to reconsider why you bother to visit TL.
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On May 13 2012 15:27 TheButtonmen wrote:Seriously? Listen do you want BW content or not, it's really that simple. If the sheer presence of SC2 stuff on /starcraft means you won't support/read/get involved with BW stuff on it then why are you even bothering to post in this thread. Half the goddamn forum has turned into whining babies who would rather rant and rave about SC2 then talk about BW. We all get it you hate SC2 but seriously if you hate SC2 more then you like BW you need to reconsider why you bother to visit TL.
Barring the obvious answer of "to hate on SC2/ESPORTS/respective fanboys" (not true for me personally, mostly), I completely agree with you.
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On May 13 2012 15:27 TheButtonmen wrote:Seriously? Listen do you want BW content or not, it's really that simple. If the sheer presence of SC2 stuff on /starcraft means you won't support/read/get involved with BW stuff on it then why are you even bothering to post in this thread. Half the goddamn forum has turned into whining babies who would rather rant and rave about SC2 then talk about BW. We all get it you hate SC2 but seriously if you hate SC2 more then you like BW you need to reconsider why you bother to visit TL.
I don't hate starcraft 2, I'm neutral toward it, which means I don't really care about it. I looked at /starcraft on reddit and it was like searching through the 'upcoming events' here on TL trying to find something that had to do with Brood War. That's all I was trying to say.
EDIT: Let me make myself a little more clear- I'm here on TL to follow the pro Korean BW scene, that's it.
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Thanks for doing an effort and pointing this out.
Created account and upvoted.
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tbh... TL is where it's at when it comes to anything starcraft. The forums aren't overflowed with annoying random image macros (see [SFW] Random pictures that make you laugh)
TL has structure and a dedicated team of staff that cater to their members. Its cool and all that you want to 'upvote' steam links, however I think it would be more constructive to just share the link on different sites and not focus on getting 500 people up upvote a single link. If 500 people hear about BW news in one day only from the link you supplied, you did great!
tl;dr TL is awesome, don't forget it.
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On May 13 2012 16:17 LarJarsE wrote:
tbh... TL is where it's at when it comes to anything starcraft. The forums aren't overflowed with annoying random image macros (see [SFW] Random pictures that make you laugh)
TL has structure and a dedicated team of staff that cater to their members. Its cool and all that you want to 'upvote' steam links, however I think it would be more constructive to just share the link on different sites and not focus on getting 500 people up upvote a single link. If 500 people hear about BW news in one day only from the link you supplied, you did great!
tl;dr TL is awesome, don't forget it.
Just posting it on TL gets you maybe 100 viewers, 150 if you're lucky and they are all old blood.
Posting it on Reddit gets you 300+ and a large portion of them are new viewers of which you'll be able to recruit a handful for watching future events if you put on a good show.
TL is awesome yes but it's stagnant.
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Agreed, look at Sayle rebroadcasts ealier, specially the finals. Half or more of the viewers came from Sc2. And reddit is crawling with them. If the reddit link is posted here somewhere, it takes literally nothing to upvote an event there, you dont even has to look anything else, yet you gain attention to BW
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To be honest, I don't get reddit. It must be my age though.
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On May 13 2012 17:42 OniGami wrote:
To be honest, I don't get reddit. It must be my age though.
Cmon im sure you know about the craze of 2chan etc in japan.. reddit is what the kids in usa use for the same purpose
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Yeah whilst a lot of reddit may be not to my tastes, it undeniably brings in viewers, which can only be a good thing. It keeps our tournaments rolling! And our number of upvotes every time is rising, and rising.
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On May 13 2012 17:51 storkfan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 17:42 OniGami wrote:
To be honest, I don't get reddit. It must be my age though. Cmon im sure you know about the craze of 2chan etc in japan.. reddit is what the kids in usa use for the same purpose
No dude. Ever heard of the American imageboard 4chan? That is the 2chan of USA. Reddit is slightly classier, or at least it was.
But 4chan does have a decent sized Starcraft community. But don't go there. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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On May 13 2012 18:44 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 17:51 storkfan wrote:On May 13 2012 17:42 OniGami wrote:
To be honest, I don't get reddit. It must be my age though. Cmon im sure you know about the craze of 2chan etc in japan.. reddit is what the kids in usa use for the same purpose No dude. Ever heard of the American imageboard 4chan? That is the 2chan of USA. Reddit is slightly classier, or at least it was. But 4chan does have a decent sized Starcraft community. But don't go there. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
4chan sc2 communities are bros, and they have restreams on every tourney that made my life so much easier
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On May 13 2012 18:44 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 17:51 storkfan wrote:On May 13 2012 17:42 OniGami wrote:
To be honest, I don't get reddit. It must be my age though. Cmon im sure you know about the craze of 2chan etc in japan.. reddit is what the kids in usa use for the same purpose No dude. Ever heard of the American imageboard 4chan? That is the 2chan of USA. Reddit is slightly classier, or at least it was. But 4chan does have a decent sized Starcraft community. But don't go there. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Get your Onion tor ready, I've got places to show you.
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I don't go on really any website other than Teamliquid and google (to look at other websites periodically lol), but this seems pretty cool. I like how just getting the front page almost doubled your viewers, this seems like it would be extremely beneficial to start doing.
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Posting to 4chan might be pretty beneficial too. We had some successful LR threads there during the last Proleague.
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Yea, lets viral streams everywhere and spam/force vote it down everyones throat.
I don't know about reddit or anything, but I go out of my way to avoid anything being spammed.
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On May 13 2012 18:44 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 17:51 storkfan wrote:On May 13 2012 17:42 OniGami wrote:
To be honest, I don't get reddit. It must be my age though. Cmon im sure you know about the craze of 2chan etc in japan.. reddit is what the kids in usa use for the same purpose No dude. Ever heard of the American imageboard 4chan? That is the 2chan of USA. Reddit is slightly classier, or at least it was.
But 4chan does have a decent sized Starcraft community. But don't go there. You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
4chan is not all /b/ and /d/.
That's like saying reddit is all r/picsofdeadkids and r/spacedicks and r/childporn.
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