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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 30 2012 23:56 GMT
#441
On March 31 2012 08:10 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:42 StarStruck wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:30 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
I can't believe how vindictive and unforgiving this scene is. I think that he shouldn't "bow out" of the SC scene, he should do whatever he wants to do, and if people want to pay for him to coach them they should. I hope that people get over this and move on, not because it wasn't a big deal, but because it has been dealt with in a ridiculously harsh way. Let it go already.


You should see how the Koreans react to him.


thousands boot up his stream and send him balloons



He certainly has a few followers that's for sure. I know I've tuned in a few times to see what all the fuss was about.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 31 2012 00:20 GMT
#442
On March 31 2012 08:56 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 08:10 Golgotha wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:42 StarStruck wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:30 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
I can't believe how vindictive and unforgiving this scene is. I think that he shouldn't "bow out" of the SC scene, he should do whatever he wants to do, and if people want to pay for him to coach them they should. I hope that people get over this and move on, not because it wasn't a big deal, but because it has been dealt with in a ridiculously harsh way. Let it go already.


You should see how the Koreans react to him.


thousands boot up his stream and send him balloons



He certainly has a few followers that's for sure. I know I've tuned in a few times to see what all the fuss was about.


lol it's funny cuz he thanks each person who sends him balloons

"Mr. StarStruck Sir, thank you very much for the XXXX Balloons."

Isn't that punishment enough? making your living off digital balloons, when a couple years back you were once the hottest thing in esports. it's sad really.
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 31 2012 01:13 GMT
#443
On March 31 2012 08:10 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 05:42 StarStruck wrote:
On March 31 2012 05:30 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote:
I can't believe how vindictive and unforgiving this scene is. I think that he shouldn't "bow out" of the SC scene, he should do whatever he wants to do, and if people want to pay for him to coach them they should. I hope that people get over this and move on, not because it wasn't a big deal, but because it has been dealt with in a ridiculously harsh way. Let it go already.


You should see how the Koreans react to him.


thousands boot up his stream and send him balloons


And hundred thousands condemn those thousands for doing so.

Some communities even went as far as banning anyone who showed their support for his bullshit.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#444
It's a small sample no matter how you slice it.

Just like the stones I see the netizens throw at KeSPA on pgr21.
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 03:47:32
March 31 2012 02:43 GMT
#445
He haven't done anything wrong in his 2 year probation, yet.

Get over it guys.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
March 31 2012 16:38 GMT
#446
<3 Savior! Hope you all can stop holding a grudge long enough to see how awesome this is.
◕ ‿‿ ◕ ๑•́ ₃ •̀๑ ( ͡ ° ͜ ʖ ͡°)
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
March 31 2012 16:43 GMT
#447
Leave Savior Alone ... Leave him alone *cry.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 31 2012 16:51 GMT
#448
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
March 31 2012 16:56 GMT
#449
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 31 2012 17:00 GMT
#450
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
March 31 2012 17:00 GMT
#451
he was my favorite progamer. until he decided to murder BW. now i get pissed off just hearing the bastards name.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
Jimmeh
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom908 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 17:02:32
March 31 2012 17:02 GMT
#452
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.


MSL...

(Not that I agree with the whole "Savior murdered BW" thing).
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
March 31 2012 17:03 GMT
#453
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 31 2012 17:06 GMT
#454
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.


And you can attribute this to 100% being because of the match fixing?
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
March 31 2012 17:06 GMT
#455
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

are you sure?? the way i see it, he dragged down so many players like hwasin, upmagic, sangho, go.go, luxury etc. that brought about the disbandment of two teams in ESTRO and Sparkyz. the sparkyz merger with CJ did not factor into it because CJ had bought ongamenet long before the scandal. but the fact that so many gamers from sparkyz (practically half) were involved in this scandal forced the merger between the two teams.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 31 2012 17:09 GMT
#456
On April 01 2012 02:02 Jimmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.


MSL...

(Not that I agree with the whole "Savior murdered BW" thing).


Not because of match fixing.. but the channel stopped showing gaming all together and turned into a music channel?
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 31 2012 17:11 GMT
#457
On April 01 2012 02:06 BloodDrunK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

are you sure?? the way i see it, he dragged down so many players like hwasin, upmagic, sangho, go.go, luxury etc. that brought about the disbandment of two teams in ESTRO and Sparkyz. the sparkyz merger with CJ did not factor into it because CJ had bought ongamenet long before the scandal. but the fact that so many gamers from sparkyz (practically half) were involved in this scandal forced the merger between the two teams.


Those players dont have a mind of their own? You cant just blame everything on 1 player.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
March 31 2012 17:12 GMT
#458
On April 01 2012 02:06 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.


And you can attribute this to 100% being because of the match fixing?


Not 100%, but close to that figure.
Bringing down a dozen or so talented players such as Luxury and a couple of teams with him sure seems significant.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
March 31 2012 17:14 GMT
#459
On April 01 2012 02:12 Wockets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:06 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.


And you can attribute this to 100% being because of the match fixing?


Not 100%, but close to that figure.
Bringing down a dozen or so talented players such as Luxury and a couple of teams with him sure seems significant.


Imo they didnt get dragged down by Savior, they chose on their own will to fix games. They dragged themselves down (we might have gone too far offtopic btw ^^)
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 31 2012 18:01 GMT
#460
On April 01 2012 02:14 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 02:12 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:06 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:03 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 02:00 DwD wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:56 Wockets wrote:
On April 01 2012 01:51 DwD wrote:
Gogo Savior! it's time to forgive him people. He did fixed games, it's not like he murdered a bunch of babies.


He sort of murdered BW ;(


Not even close. People talked for it for what? 2 weeks? Nothing happened at all, no sponsors left, all tournaments and leagues still running. Don't be ridiculous.

I'm not so sure about that, I mean with the upcoming OSL not getting a sponsor, the past few starleagues getting sponsors only halfway through the tournament. Teams have died because of this ._.
He and the other match-fixers are largely responsible for ruining BW.

OT: He does need to make some money so I do feel some sympathy for the devil, imagine how hard it'll be for him to land himself a job with a reputation and criminal record like that.


And you can attribute this to 100% being because of the match fixing?


Not 100%, but close to that figure.
Bringing down a dozen or so talented players such as Luxury and a couple of teams with him sure seems significant.


Imo they didnt get dragged down by Savior, they chose on their own will to fix games. They dragged themselves down (we might have gone too far offtopic btw ^^)

your opinion is uninformed. savior introduced the players and the ppl paying for matchfixing. savior has been the middleman. savior dragged them down, there was nothing they could have done once introduced.

on topic: dont approve.
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